Being sung again today!!
Why?
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Being sung again today!!
Why?
It’s like the don’t sack McKay song, it was catchy and everyone loves a chant.
Danny Röhl done a good job at Sheff Wednesday since he arrived...
maximum cringe from the loud minority that make up a bunch of the away supportQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
if they can sing it at 5-2 what score do they need before they dont sing it? 10-0? seems unrealistic but so did 5-2 before this match
If not Bulut - just go and get Steve CooperQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
I'd have Cooper here in a heartbeat, with or without that moron TaitQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
It's all a bit weird. Being a football supporter has definitely changed over the years. It's become a bit more Evangelical and less critical. I don't know whether social media has something to do with it or that younger fans are less engaged, less critical, blindingly optimistic or Coked out of their head. Maybe all four, who knows.
It's odd because not even that long ago we as a group of supporters wouldn't stand for crap, even if the player or players in question couldn't help being crap. We would hammer the team in the lower leagues and we had players who weren't getting paid much more than a postman. It's also translated into media, the press are as soft as shit, Hammam and Ridsdale were given a grilling for some of their antica and rightly so. Before that the Kumar Brothers etc.
Maybe society has changed, maybe people aren't so critical anymore, maybe expectations are lower. It sort of adds up, we do take whatever bone is thrown our way both politically and socially, maybe that has spilt over into recreation etc. Who knows? Or, maybe they just love Bulut and his brand of football. I don't think that we have the most knowledgeable of fans at city. That might sound shitty, but so be it.
Or maybe, just maybe, the majority of our fans were expecting a long hard season, fighting against relegation, considering the embargo, lack of quality signings, and lack of a decent squad. Proved by the fact, that even though we finished higher than the other 3 Welsh league clubs, we only had 1 player in the Welsh league team of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
The ones who travelled today, were probably glad that they weren’t fans of Brum, Plymouth, Blackburn and Sheff Weds, whose fans were all shiting themselves today.
Maybe, just maybe, the fans who travelled today, are a bit more optimistic than all the doom mongers on here, and think that next season Bulut will do even better.
“Even better”, does that mean there’ll be five games next season when I’ll be able to say I enjoyed that at the final whistle?Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Maybe......Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
You never know Bob. My point is, none of us expected big things this season, but we finished top half. Ok most of the football was not pretty on the eye to say the least, but with our recent managerial appointments, I’d be happy to give Bulut another season and see if the football improves. If it doesn’t, then move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It’s not is if we’ve been used to watching exhilarating football for the last 12 yrs or so.
Do you think Bulut will be happy with another one-year contract?Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Not very clever people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Off his chump….where else would he get paid so highly?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I don’t know, but personally if it was up to me I wouldn’t give him any more than that at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
If it was up to me, i’d want a long discussion with him, about his long term vision, plans, and style of football. If he delivered on all fronts, and at the end of next season, I could see his plans starting to bear fruition, I’d be willing to give him a longer contract.
If he wanted a longer contract right now, then I’d shake his hand, and tell him this is where we part company.
Pretty sure the length of contract was mentioned in the press as being one of the things to be negotiated, and the suggestion was he wants a three-year contract. He’s got some nerve considering he was sacked from his last job in Turkey after 20 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Think the fist pump waaaay waaay waaaay thing was more odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Pretty sure Sawyers had a go after being encouraged by Erol. What a send off, bet he’s thrilled
shows how out of touch bulut is with the players too..didnt really use sawyers this season what a embarrassing thing to get him to do at the end of a 5-2 thumping that he wasnt even a part ofQuote:
Originally Posted by EastbourneBlue
I would ask you if you think the club are naive enough to agree to that, but I think I know what your answer would be 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
All that just seems a retort for the sake of it. We had two players in the Welsh league (Goutas & NG) as far as I remember. Grimes was the only Swansea player. Of course we're all glad that we weren't shitting ourselves. But I get really pissed off at being called a 'doom monger' for critiquing the shite that Bulut has served up this season and still people want to give him more time and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
We just lost 5-2 to Rotherham. We've been abysmal at home (which is where the vast majority of fans spend their time and money). It's condescending to refer to critics as 'doom mongers' and doesn't add to the debate or discussion in a constructive way. It just sounds like 'superiority' or....maybe....delusional which segues into evangelical.
He will not produce a decent football side. The evidence was stark to day. The fist-pumping was embarrassing. The chants are embarrassing. How much more do fans want to see before they realise he's a charlatan?
I genuinely don’t think Tan will entertain a three-year contract. I get the impression he’s not convinced by Bulut. No real evidence for that, just a feeling.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Which suggests, on top of the football he serves up, he's really not the sharpest is he? Those comments about the ref. today. I'd sack him just for that. There've been managers in lower league clubs who've given refunds to supporters for dishing up crap like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blooburd
How would you feel if Bulut accepted a 1 yr deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Tan's part of the problem as much as the solution but I can't see him offering three years.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Like getting a refund on my season ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
I can't see Tan offering a 3 year contract to anyone. We're paying off so many managers at the moment I'm not surprised that Tan would be ultra cautious.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Ok. So you’re not a doom monger, but you have to accept that others feel different to you. At the end of the day, we are all City fans, and we all want the best for the club. Getting that squad to finish 12th, was a decent effort, even if the football wasn’t pretty. I think he deserves one more season. You obviously don’t. Let’s just agree to disagree 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
😂😂👍Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
We know Tan likes the team to shoot more. I can’t think what he feels when he goes to bed at 1am after watching our efforts.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
The problem is, apart from it being not up to you:hehe:,who could he have a discussion with about long term and style of football? His employers have no clue about such things.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
I second that emotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
This every day - until we have someone in decision making positions that understands football or the current lot learn lessons (and they don't show any evidence of that) then we will continue to lurch from shit show to shit show and get lucky now and again like Warnock and malkyQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
This isn't a today problem it's a deep seated systemic issue with the way out club is run
Anyway the way the premier league is most if not all clubs going up are cannon fodder for the elite and our last two visits weren't that much of a joy
Malky Mackay’s appointment had nothing to do with Vinnie. At that point the club had an actual board and a local CEO with a background in sports. Tan only started getting actively involved after Mackay (and Iain Moody) had been appointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep
True - my mistake 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
When Mackay was appointed the Chairman of Cardiff City was Dato Chan Tien Ghee, a long time business associate and "front man" for Vincent Tan. Little involvement maybe, but no involvement is unlikely IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Lets not forget prior to Malkys appointment we suddenly went all out to get Alan Shearer as manager. He went well odds on and looked certain to be appointed but eventually said no. We then went back to Malky.
Wonder how Shearer would have worked out.?
Yes, Tan was apparently almost a sleeping partner during his initial involvement. Gethin Jenkins was the CEO, TG was the chairman and the club had directors such as Alan Whiteley and Steve Borley who were actively involved in the decision-making.Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts
I believe Tan only began getting seriously involved after that season had got underway, and one of his first major decisions was to relieve Jenkins (the man who had been credited with overseeing Mackay’s appointment) of his duties.
I was at the CCS for a travel meeting when the news about Jenkins emerged. He came into the meeting, thanked us for our support and told us Tan was offloading him as he believed he was ‘unlucky’ (I’m quoting Jenkins there).
That, for me, was the first sign that Tan might be a problem, but the rest of the season went well enough and we heard little about Vinnie until the rebrand leak.
I'd forgotten about that, but it came ad went as an option very quickly. Article here: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...f-2297414.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts