City 23rd out of 24 with 64.3%
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City 23rd out of 24 with 64.3%
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are you surprised?
Aren't these figures rather meaningless ?
Surely the only figure that matters is the number of attendees on match day.
Take Rotherham for instance. They average over 10k for home matches in a stadium that holds 12k. If they had a 36k capacity stadium would you expect them to get 30k every home game, being the same percentage of the capacity ? Of course not, which is why this is a pointless number crunching exercise.
Well these figures seem to show that our ground is too big for us despite it being useful for a few Wales gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
Well, you wouldn't be saying our ground is too big for us if we were in the Premier League.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Rotherham, on the other hand, would still find a 30k stadium too big for them, even in the Premier League.
If my aunty had bollocks she would be my uncleQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
We have been in the top flight 2 x since 1962
Which of the current stands should we be demolishing then?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Now now bob. You know mr boring is on his favourite soapbox Again! Leave him alone to pontificate. Small club, fickle fans etc drone drone drone
No difference to Ninian Park for the majority of my time watching City.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I remember the 'Jock Stein' game which had an attendance of 40000. Next City game which was Bristol City attracted(?) about 4000 which was a decent crowd for that season.
What's your point here?
Or another perspective...Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
we have been in the top-flight 2 x in the last 11 years.
I'd rather have something and not need it, than need something but not have it.
Even if only full for Wales games it’s worth having otherwise the money drains off to rugby. We were at capacity for PL games. I also agree that league table is pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
It's too big for the current dreadful offering Bulut's team offer up but a successful Cardiff City team can fill our ground and sustained success might show the ground isn't big enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
But if we ever had a decent owner like the jacks did and stayed up for 7 years it would be full every week.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Let’s face it, I’m staggered that 18-20,000 people actually give up their Saturday to watch the current shite on offer.
Yiu recall the mid to late 80’s sludge? 3/4000 beleaguered souls in a 40,000 capacity stadium.
If the jacks had had 30,000 capacity they might still be there now and they would have stolen generations of fans off usQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
I remember the night City beat Spurs in their double season 61/62 there was almost a full house, next home game against Villa there were 12,000, almost 40k difference. Got to say it though the Spurs game was without doubt the best atmosphere I’ve ever known at a City game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
Well it's a bit late for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Medium clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
Fickle fans
My point is most of the time the place doesn't look very goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
We needed to move but the place looks terrible with 18000 people in a 33 k capacityQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
Plenty of other clubs have quite a lot of empty seats knocking about when I watch highlights on the TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Stoke, Wednesday, Coventry, Birmingham, Swansea and a few more all in stadiums too big for their current attendances.
As for it not looking good, I'm more concerned about some of the dross being churned out on the pitch thsn an empty blue seat.
If the football improves perhaps the seat will get used?
60/61. 45,463. Took City to 6th in 1st Division after 32 games ! Next game H v Blackpool, 19,754. City lost next 5 games, on the beach probably. [Butlins Minehead..]Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
Fickle fans ?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Always have been
Name the red seats the Ninian Premier Stand, and discount them to fiddle the figures, only count them IF we ever get back there. It's effectively closed anyway.
Also, discount the massive gaps between away supporters that can't be used either.
Wrexham want 50,000 :hehe:
Saturday night game, straight after a rugby international in town. People from all over looking for a sporting day out. The Swansea game was a great atmosphere on a Saturday night this season, the win helped mind. Perhaps the City are a Saturday night team, the well oiled fans are certainly up for it:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Man who doesn't go to Cardiff City games complains about the empty seats at Cardiff City games.
:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
Let’s be honest the average attendance this season on 21,506 isn’t bad at all. If we were in the Premier League we would sell out most games just like every other championship club, so the stadium is a perfect fit.
If the figures I was looking at earlier are correct, City were 14th in the Championship average attendance rankings this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I'd love to know how many people actually attended each game, though. The physical attendance for a good percentage of matches looked way below the official attendance figures. Same for a number of other Championship clubs I'm sure, but the differences this season looked significant at the CCS.
I’m sure the fact that a significant portion of our support ( from Neath , through to the Gwent valleys and beyond) reside in areas where there are no trains or buses back to where they live for night games and on Saturday matches, the rail/ bus network is almost certainly worse than it would be for a significant number of championship clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
This isn't the first time I have heard you make this spurious claimQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
It is of course complete nonsense
How many times have you jumped ship ?
You are like a jack in the box you soppy tart
Speak for yourself sonny.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Just baffles me that some fans want to focus on reducing capacity rather than increasing attendance.
19 k in a 32 seater stadium looks good ?Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
It looks crap and it doesn't help the players or the atmosphere either
We will increase crowds by winning gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Some people want to play like Brazil every week but that's easier said than done
In hindsight a 25,000 capacity stadium would suit us better. Some games, some seasons might be a bit on the small side but with gate receipts being less and less significant financially, better to be 'sold out' a few times, than continually under -usedQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I think that would have been spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
To see that table and see us right at the bottom in terms of using the capacity available to us is a bit of a reality check
Some attendances this season:Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
28,648 v Swansea
25,991 v Leeds
25,803 v Bristol
Bear in mind those crowds came during a mid-table Championship season. Also bear in mind the areas of no-man’s land that are necessary for segregation whenever the visiting sides bring decent numbers.
Don’t fall into the trap of agreeing with the resident fraud. You’ll end up looking daft.
60/61season. I was there too. March 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
It's interesting thisQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Because for years and years you were the foremost proponent of Cardiff City punching very much above their weight when it comes to attendances
Now listen to you
It's an almost lazarus like conversion
The atmosphere depends on the football. If the team stifles the atmosphere by defending all first half it’s going to fall flat. There is virtually nothing to get the crowd going. It seems deliberate as well with makes me furious.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Well it's an agreement that the football could improveQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
Some of the best atmospheres in recent years were under warnock