Shows how predictable that this outcome has been coming.
Can't see a mention of it on the board.
Burnley lose at Spurs and are down with Sheff Utd. Luton need a mathematical miracle next week (need to win by seven and Forest lose by six)
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Shows how predictable that this outcome has been coming.
Can't see a mention of it on the board.
Burnley lose at Spurs and are down with Sheff Utd. Luton need a mathematical miracle next week (need to win by seven and Forest lose by six)
It’s hardly surprising. The Championship was utter garbage last year - the worst it’s been in terms of quality for many years.
The three teams who got promoted from the Championship in 2021/22 will still be in the Premier League next season , while the three clubs who were promoted last season are coming straight back down. That speaks volumes.
The Championship in 2022/23 was unusually bad.
Really sad to see that whinging Nottingham Forest are going to stay up, but there can be no doubting that they were better than Sheffield United, Burnley and Luton. Some of tho Norwich teams to be relegated in recent years have been hopeless, but I’d say that Sheffield United have been the worst Premier League side since the notoriously bad Derby side that won just one match all season. Burnley were only truly competitive for a while in the last month and had a rabbits caught in the headlights look to them for the majority of the season. Luton, who I thought may break Derby’slow points record were the only ones out of the three to really have a go and, for a while in the winter, it looked like they could stay up, but ithey seemed to run out of steam about six weeks ago.
I reckon Burnley will be challenging at the top of next season’s Championship, but I’m not sure about the other two,- in fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Sheffield United struggle.
Spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
IMO- The 21/22 season was poor as the post-world realities hit home, but the 22/23 season hammered the poorly run clubs (Cardiff) as they did anything and everything to shed costs and those who went into Covid less mad did better as they didn't have to shed as much cost. There were a lot of poor teams last season and you didn't really need to do much to collect points from them.
The premier league is a TV money league so Covid didn't hurt them as much so was unaffected. This season's championship is better, but there are still alot of poor teams in it.
Be interesting to see what happens to Kompany, a media darling so may get a bigger job offer
That 4-3 loss at Bournemouth must have knocked Luton badly.
3-0 up and apparently coasting, to lose 4-3 must have been devastating
This will be only the second time in Premier League history that all three promoted sides have gone straight back down. The last time it happened was 1997/98.
Sheffield United have created a new Premier League record by conceding 101 goals (and counting). For context, that terrible Derby side back in 2007/08 conceded 89 goals.
As pointed out elsewhere I suspect, this makes our points totals of 30 and 34 for our two seasons in the Premier League look almost respectable….. :-/Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
Am I right in thinking that we still have our record of being the only team ever promoted to the Premier League twice and never stayed up?
Ths was going to be my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
No doubt it will lead to concerns that the gap between the divisions is growing, although people have been saying that for 30 years
Forest have spent an exceptional amount of money to finish 4th bottom.
The gap is there thanks to ££££££££.
Yep Luton on 26 points and everyone saying how fantastic they have been. Any other year they'd be cut adrift with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
We beat Man City who went on to be Champions.
I dont think that Man City would be top 4 now.
Shearers analysis of Burnley on MOTD last night was telling. The amount of goals theyve conceded from the keeper playing it out from the back is crazy. The definition of madness doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result. I know Kompany has his principles and the way he wants to play but they clearly didn’t have the quality of player required to play that way at the top level.
That said if they can keep that squad together I think they will walk automatic promotion next season. They’ve got some good young talent, especially in the forward areas and they won’t be punished defensively like they have been this season.
Have people said they’ve been fantastic? Or have people simply commended them for giving it a go against all the odds?Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Luton’s transfer fee spend for this season is apparently around £21 million. Warnock spent that amount on Josh Murphy and Bobby Reid.
Luton’s average attendance this season is around 11,000. City’s average in 2018/19 was more than 31,000.
They were long odds on to finish bottom of the table before the season started, so the fact that they haven’t is definitely an achievement of sorts.
Yes, but on the whole they’ve spent poorly. I don’t think Forest can really be held up as an example of anything given how they’ve been run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
….and we only just survived in the garbage it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Oh yes . Well Neil , and on a shoestring budget .Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
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When you think who Warnock actually bought it’s a miracle we got 34 points, most on Murphy and Reid, that latter never played and Murphy has found his level. Can’t even recall who else he bought? Anyone of any value or contribution?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Greg Cunningham , Viktor Camarasa , Alex Smithies , Harry Arter.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Don’t forget Leandro Bacuna (and Oumar Niasse on loan).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
The gulf between the championship and the premier league seems to be widening year on year
Last season the three promoted sides stayed up. One finished 10th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Yep, we’re unique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grangenders
“Shoestring budget”, my sides are killing me :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Luton gambled on staying up based on signings more often than not would be classed as good championship acquisitions. They failed in this regard. If they had strengthened in January they would have probably stayed up.
They have a new stadium ready for 2026 , where it has been suggested that a significant portion of the PL money has been allocated for.
No recognition in that article for the very widely held view that the 22/23 Championship was the weakest in some time. Sheffield United may have sold some of their best players, but they were one of the weakest teams to have gained automatic promotion in recent years even with Doyle, Ndiaye and Berge in their side. I thought Burnley would have made a better fist of the Premier League, but their relegation hasn't come as a too big a surprise - I thought they would have ended up with around the same number of points as we did in 18/19.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
If we're seeing similar types of articles again this time next year, then I think you would have to accept the premise behind it being true, but, even now, I think there's a good chance that two of this season's promoted teams will stay up unless Leicester end up with a big points deduction.
I thought Burnley might have stayed up but they and Kompany proved to be too naive to survive by repeating the same mistakes week after week and not doing anything to prevent them