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Everton Cup 1977 , modern fitness techniques with CCFC
Paul Went , Derek Showers
Hard nuts
Probably on sloper road after the game
https://youtu.be/85aNE9YwDnE?si=nVt-OYisgAKywjlV
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4 Cardiff born players in that clip, Dwyer, Sayer, Giles & Attley.
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splott parker
4 Cardiff born players in that clip, Dwyer, Sayer, Giles & Attley.
We had some lumpers and hackers but some skill too
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I never knew Tony Evans was a Scouser. Albert Larmour "the club's most consistent performer". Why did he have to say that?
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NYCBlue
I never knew Tony Evans was a Scouser. Albert Larmour "the club's most consistent performer". Why did he have to say that?
He was an ex cricketer who got the sports presenting job
I think they used to make things up as they went along
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I always remember Paul Went as a proper Fatty Arbuckle well over weight but after seeing that clip he looks pretty lean.
The rest look exactly how I remember them though.
Great clip.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
He was an ex cricketer who got the sports presenting job
I think they used to make things up as they went along
Yeah Peter Walker, Glammy and England.
I don't think these journo/interviewrs are much better now.
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Great video, thanks for posting that. I wish that game had been televised (there was a strike which prevented it) because I’d have been able to tell whether our performance and Tony Evans’ early goal were really as good as I think they were - my recollection is that we played better against Everton than we did in beating Spurs in Round 3 and were unlucky to lose.
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the other bob wilson
Great video, thanks for posting that. I wish that game had been televised (there was a strike which prevented it) because I’d have been able to tell whether our performance and Tony Evans’ early goal were really as good as I think they were - my recollection is that we played better against Everton than we did in beating Spurs in Round 3 and were unlucky to lose.
That’s a super video, amazing that they were expecting 40,000 for this game , and segregation was put into a section of the Bob bank. What was Everton’s support that day apparently they had a rough time, but they are well supported so I’m assuming 4,000 plus?
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TWGL1
That’s a super video, amazing that they were expecting 40,000 for this game , and segregation was put into a section of the Bob bank. What was Everton’s support that day apparently they had a rough time, but they are well supported so I’m assuming 4,000 plus?
Crowd was 35000
They had 5000 ?
They had a bad time apparently and were fighting to get back on the coaches
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Crowd was 35000
They had 5000 ?
They had a bad time apparently and were fighting to get back on the coaches
Crowd was probably 40,000 then if the official one was 35,500
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Did Dave Jones play for Everton in that game?
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NinianKnight
Did Dave Jones play for Everton in that game?
Yes he was 20 years old and played at number 2.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Crowd was 35000
They had 5000 ?
They had a bad time apparently and were fighting to get back on the coaches
If memory serves me well, which it doesn't always, didn't a group of Everton fans head for Llanrumney after the game, looking for some 'action'? I think they got it, as well. Maybe somebody on here could refresh my memory to the exact details
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Great find that :thumbup:
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splott parker
4 Cardiff born players in that clip, Dwyer, Sayer, Giles & Attley.
A great quartet. I've always thought we under sold Attley and Giles. That squad should have kicked on more than it did.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
A great watch. Thank you for posting
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AdrianAlston
A great quartet. I've always thought we under sold Attley and Giles. That squad should have kicked on more than it did.
Players that bring back fond memories for many of us and two of those four Cardiff boys became friends of mine many years later.
However, the fact is that the 1976/77 team finished 18th in the Second Division. It wasn’t very good.
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The Lone Gunman
Players that bring back fond memories for many of us and two of those four Cardiff boys became friends of mine many years later.
However, the fact is that the 1976/77 team finished 18th in the Second Division. It wasn’t very good.
Some good players but Jimmy Andrews was not a good manager
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the other bob wilson
Great video, thanks for posting that. I wish that game had been televised (there was a strike which prevented it) because I’d have been able to tell whether our performance and Tony Evans’ early goal were really as good as I think they were - my recollection is that we played better against Everton than we did in beating Spurs in Round 3 and were unlucky to lose.
You can find the Duncan McKenzie goal online though. So there was definitely a camera on the Bob Bank.
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NYCBlue
You can find the Duncan McKenzie goal online though. So there was definitely a camera on the Bob Bank.
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40UoS7YCmy8
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Some good players but Jimmy Andrews was not a good manager
Jimmy Andrews was our manager, when we became runners up to Hereford in the '76/'76 season. My favourite ever season in supporting City
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JumpersforGoalposts
Keystone kops defending and goalkeeping
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Mr Soul '68
Jimmy Andrews was our manager, when we became runners up to Hereford in the '76/'76 season. My favourite ever season in supporting City
That's not really an endorsement
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SLUDGE FACTORY
That's not really an endorsement
Cardiff City scored 5 or more goals more often under Jimmy Andrews than any City manager this millennium bar Alan Cork, Malky Mackay and Lennie Lawrence.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Cardiff City scored 5 or more goals more often under Jimmy Andrews than any City manager this millennium bar Alan Cork, Malky Mackay and Lennie Lawrence.
Were you watching CCFC in those days ? It really wasn't up to much
Jimmy Andrews refused to take toshack on in any role as he said he wasn't qualified
Toshack said look at what I have won as a player
Toshack says cobblers then and goes to Swansea
Who play brilliant football and soar up the leagues
Tempus Fugit
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Everyone who is old enough has memories of the “Villars match” in 73/74 when we faced Palace in our last game knowing one of the two teams would be relegated, but the match which ended 76/77 was exactly the same, yet does not seem as well remembered. Carlisle were the opponents and. Like Palace three years earlier took the leaf (with a great goal as I remember). We were going down at that stage, but Alan Campbell (who later signed for Carlisle) equalised a minute later and we ended up safe although my memory is that Carlisle made it a lot more difficult for us in the closing minutes before their relegation was confirmed- there was a huge scramble in our penalty area in the final minute which ended up in a punch up involving most of the players from both sides.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Were you watching CCFC in those days ? It really wasn't up to much
Jimmy Andrews refused to take toshack on in any role as he said he wasn't qualified
Toshack said look at what I have won as a player
Toshack says cobblers then and goes to Swansea
Who play brilliant football and soar up the leagues
Tempus Fugit
Because Toshack brought some "fading" Liverpool players with him.
They went down the leagues as quickly as they went up.
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bobh
Because Toshack brought some "fading" Liverpool players with him.
They went down the leagues as quickly as they went up.
We had been waiting since 1962 for a go at the big boys
Toshack could have done it for us but was rejected by CCFC
It's in the history books
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Were you watching CCFC in those days ? It really wasn't up to much
Jimmy Andrews refused to take toshack on in any role as he said he wasn't qualified
Toshack said look at what I have won as a player
Toshack says cobblers then and goes to Swansea
Who play brilliant football and soar up the leagues
Tempus Fugit
I wasn't born for most of his time with us.
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Eric the Half a Bee
I wasn't born for most of his time with us.
A blessing for you
There was much pain
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tpcnw
Yes he was 20 years old and played at number 2.
Well I never knew that till now, and I was at the game !!
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Keystone kops defending and goalkeeping
Right? I don't remember it like that. He should have been stopped.
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MacAdder
I always remember Paul Went as a proper Fatty Arbuckle well over weight but after seeing that clip he looks pretty lean.
The rest look exactly how I remember them though.
Great clip.
Yes, that was how I remember Paul Went too (overweight). But as you say, he doesn't look in bad shape in that video, his legs look well-toned in fact.
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TWGL1
That’s a super video, amazing that they were expecting 40,000 for this game , and segregation was put into a section of the Bob bank. What was Everton’s support that day apparently they had a rough time, but they are well supported so I’m assuming 4,000 plus?
A large number of Everton supporters arrived by 'football special'. At the end of the game, there was a football special parked over the Ninian bridge. I doubt if there were any windows left in at least two carriages. Also, Everton fans making their way up the walkway to the halt were easy targets.
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JumpersforGoalposts
Fair play to Duncan McKenzie, he had the confidence to try and play a bit of football in that quagmire of a goalmouth - most players would have tried to 'leather' the ball instead, but he showed great composure.
I was in the middle of the Grange End that afternoon.
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NYCBlue
Right? I don't remember it like that. He should have been stopped.
Well your memory is entirely yours
But he wasn't tackled by a number of defenders and goalkeeper as can be seen by the video
Keystone kops
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
Fair play to Duncan McKenzie, he had the confidence to try and play a bit of football in that quagmire of a goalmouth - most players would have tried to 'leather' the ball instead, but he showed great composure.
I was in the middle of the Grange End that afternoon.
There are a number of clips online of his remarkable close control of the ball on shockingly bad pitches.
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
Fair play to Duncan McKenzie, he had the confidence to try and play a bit of football in that quagmire of a goalmouth - most players would have tried to 'leather' the ball instead, but he showed great composure.
I was in the middle of the Grange End that afternoon.
Bob bank me.
I agree and of course, we all agree Duncan Mckenzie was magic.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Cardiff City scored 5 or more goals more often under Jimmy Andrews than any City manager this millennium bar Alan Cork, Malky Mackay and Lennie Lawrence.
This is how I remember that era. We were as likely to win by a hat full as we were to lose by the same number. Andrews in particular would choose teams without nearly any central midfielders. Sayer, Giles, Reece, then Grapes would often be 3 of the 4 midfielders with someone like Livermore or Campbell (who were no diggers) trying to hold it together.
And lest we forget the best and most flamboyant City kit ever