Remembering legends by naming in the ground?

I know this has been mentioned on many occasions but with the very sad news from last week with the passing of Sol Bamba is it not time for the club to reconsider naming parts of the ground after legendary players?

Peter Whittingham and Sol Bamba most definitely fall in that category and these are players very recent in our memories.

Fred Keenor is obviously a legend and remembered with the statue but certainly before our time.

So what about 'The Peter Whittingham Family Stand' and the 'Sol Bamba Grandstand'.

Or am I just being a soppy of sod?

TIB.

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Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire

I know this has been mentioned on many occasions but with the very sad news from last week with the passing of Sol Bamba is it not time for the club to reconsider naming parts of the ground after legendary players?

Peter Whittingham and Sol Bamba most definitely fall in that category and these are players very recent in our memories.

Fred Keenor is obviously a legend and remembered with the statue but certainly before our time.

So what about 'The Peter Whittingham Family Stand' and the 'Sol Bamba Grandstand'.

Or am I just being a soppy of sod?

TIB.

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The Gary Bell End?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

The Gary Bell End?

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The Whitts End would be so appropriate…..

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Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire

I know this has been mentioned on many occasions but with the very sad news from last week with the passing of Sol Bamba is it not time for the club to reconsider naming parts of the ground after legendary players?

Peter Whittingham and Sol Bamba most definitely fall in that category and these are players very recent in our memories.

Fred Keenor is obviously a legend and remembered with the statue but certainly before our time.

So what about 'The Peter Whittingham Family Stand' and the 'Sol Bamba Grandstand'.

Or am I just being a soppy of sod?

TIB.

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Is Phil Dwyer commemorated anywhere ? Surely he has to be top of the list. Just because Billy Hardy and Len Davies are Legends of yesteryear doesn’t mean they should be ignored. How about Peter King ?

Just a thought

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Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

Is Phil Dwyer commemorated anywhere ? Surely he has to be top of the list. Just because Billy Hardy and Len Davies are Legends of yesteryear doesn’t mean they should be ignored. How about Peter King ?

Just a thought

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I don't know what the answer is but for sure it's a thought provoking subject.

My favourite time supporting City was in the late 60's and early 70's at NP and that period throws up a number of players.

I hope the club doesn't do nothing.

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Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

Is Phil Dwyer commemorated anywhere ? Surely he has to be top of the list. Just because Billy Hardy and Len Davies are Legends of yesteryear doesn’t mean they should be ignored. How about Peter King ?

Just a thought

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Be a bit stupid naming a stand of a stadium after players who’ve never played there

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Originally Posted by Henry Hill

Be a bit stupid naming a stand of a stadium after players who’ve never played there

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that's a very good point and also makes the criteria easier and on this basis Whitts and Sol are definitely high up the list.

They could name a block of seats after players gives them more latitude with the number of players who deserve to be on the list

What about naming the outlets on the concourses after players, ‘The Robin Friday Bar’, ‘The Jon Parkin Burger Joint’, ‘The Michael Chopra Betting Stall’, ‘The Isaac Vassell St John’s Ambulance Station’.

I thought the Peter Whittingham Family Stand was a genuine possibility, but maybe it was just a rumour started on a message board.
I guess the club try to resist such measures as it removes a potential sponsorship opportunity.

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Originally Posted by Henry Hill

Be a bit stupid naming a stand of a stadium after players who’ve never played there

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Why, the legendary player of the Club is being commemorated irregardless of the stadium. Nat Lofthouse never played at the Toughsheet Community Stadium but I’m sure Bolton Wanderers fans are very happy to sit in a stand named after their absolute legend.

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Originally Posted by Henry Hill

Be a bit stupid naming a stand of a stadium after players who’ve never played there

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I wonder if Queen Victoria had visited every park named after her.
And did Churchill ever visit Churchill Way?
And did Lord Kitchenor ever attend the eponymous school in Canton?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

I wonder if Queen Victoria had visited every park named after her.

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Yes. She was on first name terms with Billy the Seal as well.

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Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire

I know this has been mentioned on many occasions but with the very sad news from last week with the passing of Sol Bamba is it not time for the club to reconsider naming parts of the ground after legendary players?

Peter Whittingham and Sol Bamba most definitely fall in that category and these are players very recent in our memories.

Fred Keenor is obviously a legend and remembered with the statue but certainly before our time.

So what about 'The Peter Whittingham Family Stand' and the 'Sol Bamba Grandstand'.

Or am I just being a soppy of sod?

TIB.

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I don't know if it still is, but I think the media suite at CCS used to be named after Phil Suarez.

I guess for a stand to be named after an ex player, it asks the question of who really are the club's top legends. I can make a case for Whittingham. If we named 4 stands after 4 ex players, I can't make a case for Bamba being in the top 4.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

The Whitts End would be so appropriate…..

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:hehe::hehe: Underrated post of the year right there.

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Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

Is Phil Dwyer commemorated anywhere ? Surely he has to be top of the list. Just because Billy Hardy and Len Davies are Legends of yesteryear doesn’t mean they should be ignored. How about Peter King ?

Just a thought

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Phil Dwyer is written on the Ninian Stand

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Originally Posted by bigjoe

Phil Dwyer is written on the Ninian Stand

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Didn’t know that. Perhaps it is not very evident if you sit in the Ninian Stand as I do

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Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

Didn’t know that. Perhaps it is not very evident if you sit in the Ninian Stand as I do

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Two banners across the red seats, one for Whitts and one for Joe.

The Peter Whittingham Family Stand made a lot of sense to me and a lot of fans, wasn't it raised by the Supporters' Trust?

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Originally Posted by bigjoe

Phil Dwyer is written on the Ninian Stand

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That's what I was thinking, isn't there a banner?

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Originally Posted by splott parker

What about naming the outlets on the concourses after players, ‘The Robin Friday Bar’, ‘The Jon Parkin Burger Joint’, ‘The Michael Chopra Betting Stall’, ‘The Isaac Vassell St John’s Ambulance Station’.

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We have a winner. Add in the Wilfried Kanga statue & the Erol Bulut Hall of Mirrors

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

We have a winner. Add in the Wilfried Kanga statue & the Erol Bulut Hall of Mirrors

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The Wilfried Kanga statue was on the pitch for over an hour last Saturday dinner time.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

The Wilfried Kanga statue was on the pitch for over an hour last Saturday dinner time.

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:hehe: Meanwhile, Fred Keenor from the car park will start against Derby as he'll be more mobile up front.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Two banners across the red seats, one for Whitts and one for Joe.

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So, not permanent then ?

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Originally Posted by City123

The Peter Whittingham Family Stand made a lot of sense to me and a lot of fans, wasn't it raised by the Supporters' Trust?

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It was at the Supporters Liaison meetings and I think the Supporters Club and other reps were in favour but it got nowhere with the Club.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

What about naming the outlets on the concourses after players, ‘The Robin Friday Bar’, ‘The Jon Parkin Burger Joint’, ‘The Michael Chopra Betting Stall’, ‘The Isaac Vassell St John’s Ambulance Station’.

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Not sure if that is a joke or a dam good idea :biggrin:

Sol Bamba is nowhere near the status of having a stand named after him. He only played 112 games for us. And only played over 30 games in a season once. He played 12 games over the last two seasons he was with us.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Sol Bamba is nowhere near the status of having a stand named after him. He only played 112 games for us. And only played over 30 games in a season once. He played 12 games over the last two seasons he was with us.

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Agreed.

He shouldn’t be compare to the likes of Joe Dwyer, Whitts or Don Murray and yet he was universally liked by fans (I think anyway) and so is deserving of recognition.

Naming a stand after him would be a bit much I think.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Agreed.

He shouldn’t be compare to the likes of Joe Dwyer, Whitts or Don Murray and yet he was universally liked by fans (I think anyway) and so is deserving of recognition.

Naming a stand after him would be a bit much I think.

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Totally agree.

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Originally Posted by NinianKnight

Not sure if that is a joke or a dam good idea :biggrin:

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They were all jokes except the last one! 😎

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

They were all jokes except the last one! ��

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I was toying with ‘Citizen’s Nephew’s Uncle’s Press Box’:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

Is Phil Dwyer commemorated anywhere ?

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There is a street off Sloper Road running next the stadium and House of Sport that is named after Phil Dwyer. It used to be called Clos Parc Morgannwg (still is on Google Maps), but was renamed after Phil late last year. I think it's now called Clos Phil Dwyer. Went past it last week and noticed the signs for the first time.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Agreed.

He shouldnÂ’t be compare to the likes of Joe Dwyer, Whitts or Don Murray and yet he was universally liked by fans (I think anyway) and so is deserving of recognition.

Naming a stand after him would be a bit much I think.

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Partly agree.

1. Naming things never perked up my interest much - I've no problems with it being done, but I can't ever think of much that's been named after something or other that's made much of a difference in the day to day lives of people - cheered them up, make them feel proud etc in my lifetime...

If it does happen, then it very much is it's own process which answers the question of whether that person is worthy of recognition or not. Literally the people decide, not any one gatekeeper, of the present, future or past.

2. No one is guaranteed work and a wage in their lifetime and Sol was an employee. However I'm pretty sure during his playing time here, he would regularly impress on everyone just how fallen in love with the club he was, and how he wanted his future to be here, with us, among our charges season upon season. We saw him and Sabri stretch every sinew, keep us up and at the end of it, Cardiff City announced all the very best to Sol we will be going our seperate ways. I can't define what is recognition worthy to me in all contexts of life, but I do feel that Sol's presence at our club should be celebrated as the special thing it was - from Div 4 here we were in the Prem with a squad and Gaffer that really had a good go at showing Cardiff was capable of homing a PL team with former PSG youngsters clearly of top level proud and happy to be here.

Or to end any disagreeing, how about these four?
Martin Lewis, Rob Brydon, Neil Kinnock and Dr. Alice roberts?

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Originally Posted by cantonboy

Or to end any disagreeing, how about these four?
Martin Lewis, Rob Brydon, Neil Kinnock and Dr. Alice roberts?

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You are forgetting Huw Edwards……. :-/

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

There is a street off Sloper Road running next the stadium and House of Sport that is named after Phil Dwyer. It used to be called Clos Parc Morgannwg (still is on Google Maps), but was renamed after Phil late last year. I think it's now called Clos Phil Dwyer. Went past it last week and noticed the signs for the first time.

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Thanks very much, I wasn’t aware of that. I assume it must be adopted road in which case the club must have asked the Council to change it. Well done them.

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Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

Thanks very much, I wasn’t aware of that. I assume it must be adopted road in which case the club must have asked the Council to change it. Well done them.

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A Walesonline report I found dated 14/11/2023 reads as follows:

Cardiff street renamed after Bluebirds legend

A street near Cardiff City Stadium has been renamed in honour of legendary former Bluebird Phil 'Joe' Dwyer.

The Cardiff-born defender is a bona fide, all-time legend among City supporters, having played a whopping 575 times for the Bluebirds, and he sadly past away two years ago at the age of 68.

A huge banner of Dwyer, who also had 10 caps for Wales between 1978 and 1979, is on display at the top of the red stand at Cardiff City Stadium, but the club have lobbied to ensure his memory is honoured in a more tangible way, by renaming a street after him.

Clos Parc Morgannwg has now been renamed Clos Phil Dwyer in a permanent tribute to the defender's Bluebirds legacy. The street is found roughly between the Ninian Stand and Family Stand side of the ground and leads to the car park for the away end.

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Originally Posted by cantonboy

Or to end any disagreeing, how about these four?
Martin Lewis, Rob Brydon, Neil Kinnock and Dr. Alice roberts?

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I already have a full size lifelike statue of Dr Alice Roberts under my patio

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I already have a full size lifelike statue of Dr Alice Roberts under my patio

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That's an episode of Digging For Britain akin to Alan Partridge finding himself trapped in his stalkers bungalow.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

That's an episode of Digging For Britain akin to Alan Partridge finding himself trapped in his stalkers bungalow.

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She's worth it