I know one swallow and all that but what guarantee does a new guy bring, and more improvement than Rizza with this crop. Rather than singling one player to praise I found myself struggling to criticize anyone for a change.
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I know one swallow and all that but what guarantee does a new guy bring, and more improvement than Rizza with this crop. Rather than singling one player to praise I found myself struggling to criticize anyone for a change.
Interesting he didn't seem to stay long on the pitch afterwards and left after shaking the officials hands from what I could seeQuote:
Originally Posted by sneggyblubird
After the Bristol game, I acknowledged the mistake he made in going to a back 5, but I felt that unless we had a stand out contender for the job letting the 'interim' situation continue after the international was not really a risk. I felt he had brought enough positive changes to the team to allow him continue. And even though yesterday's performance justified my stance in spades, I would not appoint him full time yet. I would let the current situation run until the next break and take the decision then. We have made too many wrong managerial decisions and the next one needs to be based on more evidence than 4 games. That said, Riza has changed so much for the better. His selections, his tactics, his man-management and above all the positivity and freedom he allows players is a breath of fresh. It only goes to show how fecking awful Bulut was. Why people "wanted him to stay" I will never know.
He’s great at not picking the players that failed miserably under Bulut.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves
Plymouth are one of the worst sides in the league and had 10 men
Aside from the performance on the pitch, I liked what he said in his press conference in the week about giving players like Tanner a bit more freedom and telling them they're not going to be substituted if they make a mistake, just if they run out of steam. Also about finding positions and roles that suit players like Robinson and Colwill to get the best out of them.
Agree with your first statement and half of your second but isn't that what a really good team does to a not so good side?Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
you are a crazy manQuote:
Originally Posted by sneggyblubird
we dont do positivity here :wave:
In the Bristol game Riza made a mistake going to a back 5. It was only a mistake because the Wurzel's equalized. If we had held onto our lead his decision would have been seen as astute.
The point is football is not an exact science. Managers/Coaches play the margins, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. What they get judged on firstly is results and secondly style of play. Seven points from nine plus 7 goals to one against is good to have on his CV so far if you ignore the 4-1 loss at Hull
It never surprises me that when ever we win the team we beat were 'the worst side we've played' or 'worst in the league' or some other comment to downplay our success. Even when we won promotion to the Prem for some it was only because it was the weakest Championship for donkeys years.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Let's hope the manager doesn't tell the players that in the changing room after the game!!
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Originally Posted by NinianKnight
Fair play.
I'm not anti Riza but why would we ignore the 4-1 loss at Hull?! It's 25% of the sample size :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianKnight
You shouldn't ignore it. He started terribly and got rightly slaughtered for it but it is to his credit that he has put together this excellent run of 7 from 9Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
you can work it out with a pencil!Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianKnight
You’re funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianKnight
Regarding RizaQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I think your ccmb role as chief managerial appointment analysis officer is on its arse
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Have you gone for a lie down ?
I am not sure you can come back from this
Even in the loss to Hull we looked better than we did under Bulut, 4-1 was a bit harsh, but we have got better with each game. I say give him until Christmas. If he has got us out of trouble, give him until the end of the season. If we get mid table and keep playing positive, entertaining football, give him the job. If.
I'm still on the fence but I've started warming to him. He's not been in the job long and it's a learning curve. I'm hoping he's learned from his mistakes at Hull and Bristol and that he's developing a positive plan for the team.
I'm also hoping the team gain further confidence from their last few outings and they will develop a winning belief. As it is, unless a stand out candidate knocks on our door very soon, I'd be prepared to cut him some slack and see how things progress in the short term.
Well I would say till Xmas tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparticus_Mills
After then if we are still poncing about in the bottom 3 then it will clearly need a more experienced approach
I thought you’d decided you weren’t going to engage with me? Game on again, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Go to the game yesterday, Sludgey? Or have you given up completely now that the guy you backed incessantly for months on end has been given the bum’s rush? I think I can guess…
Disagree. Even if they had not equalised it was a rookie mistake. We were on top and going to a back five ruined all momentum that we had. Hopefully he has learnt from that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianKnight
I am here to stamp on your little toes whenever you talk gibberish , you don't think I am going to let you off the hook , surely ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Your character assasination of Riza was one of your finest moments
Chancer 🤣
Enjoyed the game yesterday , next installment Norwich for me
I will wave to you , it's easy to spot your moon head
Remind me, for how many months did you champion Bulut and attempt to bully Eric off the board as he pointed out the former manager’s obvious failings?
Good to hear you made it all the way from Cowbridge to Leckwith yesterday. I believe you. Honestly I do.
I don't care what you believe , I will be sitting in comfort for the Norwich gameQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I make it to the games by driving , again in comfort
Possibly you will one day stop relying on others to get you around but I doubt it
You chancer
Eric's a big boy... when he drones on and on about these things he's big enough to look after himself
Unlike yourself , being shorter than Ronnie Corbett
Stilts
He is a rookie. They are allowed mistakes. The key thing is that they learn from them. Riza has got way right than he has wrong.
It was seen as a bad decision by everyone in the away end as soon as he did it, it was a big mistakeQuote:
Originally Posted by NinianKnight
You can only beat what’s in front of you, and City did that in Spades. How are they one of the worst sides?Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
they let in as many goals as we have ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
Why have you developed this bizarre fixation with the fact that I don't drive? Do you regard it as being some sort of an advantage you have over me? It's very odd, but as it's you we're talking about, I guess that's par for the course.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
It's also interesting that you've decided to start having a pop at me again despite stating you weren't going to, and you've immediately made it personal too. That's something for you to bear in mind when you start bleating about my responses.
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He's doing a good job, and so far I am impressed with the rapid turnaround but he's not a Manager. I think it shows how bad Bulut became rather than how brilliant Riza is. We need to be looking for a long-term experienced Manager. The new novice Manager will often get a honeymoon period. We are on a good run of games. Let's see how we do against WBA, Norwich, Luton, and Blackburn. Then we will have a better idea of where we really are.
It does look like they are warming to giving him more time to see how he does as a Manager without a contract and still looking for a long term appointment, like Mowbray or Bilic.
Not really they've had some good results, they are eleventh on the last six games recent form tables, we played well it was a very good performance and win.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
https://thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?table=2
Portsmouth next although they beat lowly QPR we need to batter them and go for the jugular from the start.
It was a brilliant performance by most standards but particularly for us off the back of a few pretty drab seasons of home performances.
Big respect for Riza who set us up perfectly and has certainly got us actually looking like a team.
That is with hindsight. Say Riza had not made any changes and Bristol equalized. The same people would be jumping up and down saying he was tactically naive. I like everyone else would have prefered 3 points but a point away was still a very good resultQuote:
Originally Posted by City123
Last season
we lost at Hull 3-0
beat Millwall at home 1-0
beat Bristol City away 1-0
drew 2-2 home to Plymouth
This year
Lost 4-1
Win 1-0
Drew 1-1
Win 5-0
So bar the very welcome goal fest a pretty much identical record to what we've just sacked
I accept you have made a good point there. Is Riza a good manager or are we seeing a new manager bounce? He has to be given more time to prove himself. Will it work out? Can't say at the momentQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
what a weird post, what point are you trying to make?Quote:
Originally Posted by fugsyphil
Exactly what I said. It's very similar to what we've just sacked. Guess that means I'd still be very cautious about hiring him if we want to improve on last season's achievementsQuote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
I think it's hilarious that you have given it out to Riza and he's bitten you on the arse 🤣
Keep off the budweiser if you are having driving lessons 🚗