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“When we win, and we will win, we will forensically eradicate the woke mind virus.
Meritocracy MUST rule”.
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/18...LTsVTx09ZSEfIA
These absolute bunch of nutters need to be sanctioned. WTF is the “woke mind virus?” They are really beginning to scare me.
Woke mind virus is a phrase that Elon Musk uses.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
Essentially criticising series of policies that don't take account of common sense etc or whatever all the other aspects of what wokeism is or isn't..but that's where the phrase comes from.
Nothing to worry about. Basically about going back to 2005 or something like that!
So a load of old bollox then. You’ve just made up what you think it means. It’s just a word salad. Musk is a raving lunatic and a racist as are Reform.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I haven't made it up at all, it's a phrase he's used often and there's a Le Monde article on it belowQuote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
I think he's partly referring to people who label anything they don't like or understand as being racist and lunatic btw 👍
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/internatio...6714239_4.html
As I said he’s an absolute nutter as is anyone who believes that load of old bollox.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Okay!Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4MQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Another load of old bollox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Why do you believe that crap? The world’s gone crazy.
Do you think everything you believe is true?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
I don’t believe in imaginary things. I don’t believe in made up nonsense. I don’t believe in fairy tales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Woke ideology comes out of the social sciences and these theories can never be proven to be true, so in essence you have to buy into them which results in joining a tribe, and then the enemy is another tribe who think differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
Look up the meaning of woke,you just mind understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I'm using it in the context of the original post.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Always a laugh taking Gluey beyond his usually glorifying platitudes. This time you have hooked a word salad worthy of wondering how many synapses snapped in its making.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
I think you have that all wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
There is no unifying "woke ideology". There is no "woke manifesto". There isn't an agenda of things that have come from social science.
What there is is a group of people who struggle to deal with change, and so label many diverse examples of increased representation for minorities as "woke".
A black actress lands a major role - woke
A video game is woke apparently if it portrays a same sex couple i.e. Baldurs Gate or the last of us.
the Oscars were woke when Parasite won.
They just come across as a bunch of children who only want to see the same 2 movies over and over.
Rupert Lowe again, somewhat misguided if he wants a meritocracy, unless he's planning on retiring and giving up his spot as an MP to someone who isnt a private school toff before reform win.
Woke is a stupid word and you have rightly exposed the weakness on the "anti-woke" side. But there is an equal weakness on the "woke" side that puts out identities above all over characteristicds, divides us along those lines and uses very shaky science to explain events on those characteristics. It's turned into a huge industry of people who have zero interest in seeing the injustices they purport to oppose actually reducing. What annoys me most is that none of it works. We made far more progress on the years before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I hate "wokeness", whatever definition we use. I think it's extremely divisive. My favourite explanation of it remains this short parody which is well worth a watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev37...JhY2lzdA%3D%3D
The word woke is also almost as annoying as my stupid little typos from my fat thumbs on my phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
The word “Woke” should really be changed to postmodernism/ist IMO.
Woke was initially a term for Black Americans regarding the need for political consciousness.
Again, in my opinion, the word has been hijacked over the last decade or so as a use all to describe deconstructionism and intersectionality.
Or we could go back to the good old SJW.
I was commenting on political matters in line with the opening post, not about individual cases. A lot of the academic output from various institutions has been taken up by governments and turned into policy, which other politicians disagree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I gave up out of boredom after five minutes, but I couldn't help thinking about the likes of Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson and Donald Trump exploiting people's fears about immigration, but that can't be right can it because the critical thinkers tend to back them don't they.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Unfortunately Bob, I dont think they are exploiting them, I just think they are listening to them, and after abject failures on that topic from both the main parties, I think it's actually a really important couple of years here now for the govt to demonstrate action.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I think it's a mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
It's always good to trace this back to incentives. Why would a Tory government who would gain political capital amongst their supporters by lowering immigration sign off 350k work visas?
The simple answer is that they needed to to sustain the economy. Another more complex tinfoil hat answer is that they thought the public were idiots and the overall net migration number getting massive would help them justify more extreme policies to 'fix' migration.
I would go for the former. I think this comes down to a failure of our political system, in the sense that nobody can tell the truth about migration (and lots of other topics related to the economy) and get elected.
Yeah, I agree. I just dont think listening to people on a topic is "exploiting" it. I'm not sure I get why that is the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
The Tories absolutely dropped the ball spectacularly on immigration. I guess some context is that they wanted to prove to naysayers that Britain was "open" after Brexit, and I think they also bowed to pressure from universities which seem to be based on a wholly unsustainable funding model at the moment (job cuts incoming), but yeah they messed up big time.
Collective minds are extremely malleable, and you saw how easily Rachael Maddow & Adam Schiff led the gullible up the garden path for 7 years with their Russia, Russia, Russia nonsense. We should be learning from these sort of things, but people effortlessly move onto the next narrative, while pretending the last one didn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The overwhelming majority apply through legal channels and have family/study connections in the UK, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Well,I’d prefer to stick to my example of malleable minds being led up the garden path by the likes of Farage hinting at something else at work during the Southport instigated rioting, Robinson’s “patriots” rabble rousing at the slightest excuse and stats showing Trump was talking bollox about the millions of murderous illegal immigrants pouring into America in the past four years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
https://news.northwestern.edu/storie...n-the-us-born/
As for “Russia, Russia nonsense”, any comment on this story?
https://www.politico.eu/article/roma...lin-georgescu/
Ever thought it was your lot who are the ones being manipulated?
My lot? I don't have any lot! I saw the light after the weapons of mass distraction fiasco, and if it is any consolation they are all at it. US operatives have been on the ground in Romania for quite a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
And Syria Attachment 6335Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Of course you’ve got a lot, you yourself have spoken of the critical thinkers and gifted individuals who see things for what they really are and I can’t believe youof all people would ever admit to being wrong by saying you were mistaken about what you’ve posted on here over the past decade or so. Therefore, you still stick to the tick list of subjects you all swear by, as witnessed by your pro Russia thinking here. You’re so convinced you’re the clever ones who see through all of the lies, but, invariably, you all end up parroting the same old lines on the same old subjects day after day and week after week - sounds suspiciously like brain washing to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
You’re another bitter nobody. STFU
Why do you feel the need to try and belittle posters on here. Bob is one of the longest serving and most respected posters on here but still he can STFU. you need to wind your neck in cos you look stupid with that attitude.
He’s a snide twat , little comments here and there ,relentlessly trying to wind up “critically thinking” peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
About time he STFU
I literally admitted I was wrong about Blair in the above post.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
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Originally Posted by TWGL1
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Originally Posted by TWGL1
That was nearly twenty years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
An example of me admitting I was wrong, it was more than twenty years ago wasn’t it.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It was a pinitol moment, and immediately after that I cancelled my Guardian subscription. I then began triangulating data from multiple sources before applying advanced logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The debunking of the Russia collusion hoax was no accident :xmashehe: