FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 1 BRISTOL CITY. Match thread

Saturday 15th February, ko 12:30pm
Live on Sky Sports +

Match Officials:

Referee: TONY HARRINGTON
Assistants: Scott Ledger and Sian Massey-Ellis
Fourth Official : Jacob Miles

Match Facts:

Cardiff City are unbeaten in their last four league games against Bristol City (W3 D1), keeping three clean sheets in that time.

After winning on three successive trips to Cardiff in the league between November 2019 and August 2021, Bristol City have lost on their last two visits in the league.

Cardiff are unbeaten in their last four home league games (W2 D2); the Bluebirds last enjoyed a longer run in October 2023 (6 games – W5 D1).

Following successive away league wins over Preston (3-1) and Norwich (2-0), Bristol City are without an away league win in their last eight games (D4 L4); their longest run since February 2022 (11 games).

Cardiff’s Callum Robinson has scored more Championship goals against Bristol City than any other side (5), though is yet to score in his two previous league games for the Bluebirds against the Robins.

Rumours that Robertson's injured - you've guessed it - his hamstring.

Can’t afford to have Fish and Goutas play with each other again after yesterday, Chambers should slot back in if Daland isn’t fit or failing that put Ng at centre back.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

Can’t afford to have Fish and Goutas play with each other again after yesterday, Chambers should slot back in if Daland isn’t fit or failing that put Ng at centre back.

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I know that Chambers didn't cover himself in glory whilst playing centre-back, however, I think he'll have regained confidence from his stint in midfield, and might make a better fist of central defence this time around as a result.
BTW: What were people's thoughts on Mannsverk? - I thought he created space for himself and took up good positions, but I was a bit disappointed by his under/over hit passing. Surprising really, when you consider his parent club is renowned for this aspect of the game.

We miss Ollie Tanner, our only genuine pace.

There will have to be changes, with a tighter defence, more attacking midfield and pace and strength in attack. A change at goalie as well.

Bristol home is a different game from Portsmouth away.
I'm sure we can find a completely different way to lose this one

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

We miss Ollie Tanner, our only genuine pace.

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Tanner doesn't have genuine pace, not in the way someone like Medez-Laing has. However, Tanner isn't predictable, he doesn't run straight lines, he often jinks inside and outside.
He seldom looks to play the ball backwards, I like his positive approach.

The main issue other than our coaching staff is defence.

The thought of Chambers going back there shows how bad we are actually are for options.

Ng has to come in. Other than that we are struggling whoever we pick for the 2 CB positions.

I just hope they are told to get rid of the ball as quickly as possible away from our goal.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

We miss Ollie Tanner, our only genuine pace.

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Alves was brought in for his pace. Perhaps time for him to start.

After some thought today, I'd go as follows.

Alnwick (thin ice though)

Ng (rino needs a rest)
Goutas
Daland
O'Dowda

Mannsverk
Chambers

El Ghazi
Ramsey
Alves

Robinson


If Daland is unavailable then Chambers to CB and Ralls in with Mannsverk. This is must win by any means necessary, we have to score first and not chase the game.

Very very nervy 2-1 win I'll go for.

After the Portsmouth shitshow I am not sure where our next win is coming from.
We are clearly fragile in the middle of defence and the 2 signings are just not ready for the physicality of the Championship. This is meaning we have to score at least 2 to win.
It was a mistake not replacing Riza weeks ago, as I believe a decent experienced manager would have improved the defence.
Anyway, we are where we are. Bristol are a decent Championship side, in good form at the moment. I struggle to see us winning.
2-1 Bristol

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Originally Posted by Former Labour leader

After the Portsmouth shitshow I am not sure where our next win is coming from.
We are clearly fragile in the middle of defence and the 2 signings are just not ready for the physicality of the Championship. This is meaning we have to score at least 2 to win.
It was a mistake not replacing Riza weeks ago, as I believe a decent experienced manager would have improved the defence.
Anyway, we are where we are. Bristol are a decent Championship side, in good form at the moment. I struggle to see us winning.
2-1 Bristol

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On the opposite side of the coin, we've had 2 decent unbeaten runs this season, punctuated by spells of total shittery. Bristol lost to a poor Swansea side recently, one we thrashed 3-0.

At the moment, a win makes us think we can beat anyone; a defeat makes us think we won't win again. Riza is doing a good job (maybe) if we win; he was never suitable for the job if we lose.

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Originally Posted by Former Labour leader

After the Portsmouth shitshow I am not sure where our next win is coming from.
We are clearly fragile in the middle of defence and the 2 signings are just not ready for the physicality of the Championship. This is meaning we have to score at least 2 to win.
It was a mistake not replacing Riza weeks ago, as I believe a decent experienced manager would have improved the defence.
Anyway, we are where we are. Bristol are a decent Championship side, in good form at the moment. I struggle to see us winning.
2-1 Bristol

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Got to say even by our reactionary fanbases track record last night's reaction is getting jarring. It's one isolated game, I don't understand this at all. It was a bad performance, against a similar standard team though they do have a good record at home.

It's like everyone has forgotten we went on a decent run for an entire month. 2 losses in a row including one to be expected isn't panic stations. Less than 3 from the next two is.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

After some thought today, I'd go as follows.

Alnwick (thin ice though)

Ng (rino needs a rest)
Goutas
Daland
O'Dowda

Mannsverk
Chambers

El Ghazi
Ramsey
Alves

Robinson


If Daland is unavailable then Chambers to CB and Ralls in with Mannsverk. This is must win by any means necessary, we have to score first and not chase the game.

Very very nervy 2-1 win I'll go for.

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I think you are being unfair on. Bagan who has been decent last couple of games. In fact I would playing centre back if Daland still out, with ODowda rb.
There is no pace in your midfield. Massive loss if, as suspected, Robertson out.
We will need all the pace we can muster uptop so I agree Alves starts.
He plays on right with ODowda offering pace on left.
As Bristol are pretty physical I wonder if we can squeeze in Salech? No point playing long ball if just Robbo up top.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

Got to say even by our reactionary fanbases track record last night's reaction is getting jarring. It's one isolated game, I don't understand this at all. It was a bad performance, against a similar standard team though they do have a good record at home.

It's like everyone has forgotten we went on a decent run for an entire month. 2 losses in a row including one to be expected isn't panic stations. Less than 3 from the next two is.

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If the defeat at Portsmouth was an isolated incident - what was the previous 7-0 defeat at Elland Road?

Or am I missing something?

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Originally Posted by The Prophet of Doom

If the defeat at Portsmouth was an isolated incident - what was the previous 7-0 defeat at Elland Road?

Or am I missing something?

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It was Leeds, just move on from it. We were pretty much always going to lose, can point to the manner of the defeat but ultimately we lost to nil as expected.

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Originally Posted by The Prophet of Doom

If the defeat at Portsmouth was an isolated incident - what was the previous 7-0 defeat at Elland Road?

Or am I missing something?

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It was Leeds, just move on from it. We were pretty much always going to lose, can point to the manner of the defeat but ultimately we lost to nil as expected.

Last nights result will mean more if we lose saturday, but until then, panicking is pointless. We win saturday and everyone will be back to saying we'll be fine.


Double post, apologies.

We're 7th favourite to go down with Skybet for what it's worth.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

It was Leeds, just move on from it. We were pretty much always going to lose, can point to the manner of the defeat but ultimately we lost to nil as expected.

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Difficult to move on from a 7-0 drubbing when it’s followed by a loss to a dreadful side feeling its way in a new league. It’s not just the results but the inept way they keep doing it.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

It was Leeds, just move on from it.

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Bad day at the office. The club's worst day at the office since 1966, but let's move on. To Portsmouth. Where it was another bad day at the office.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Bad day at the office. The club's worst day at the office since 1966, but let's move on. To Portsmouth. Where it was another bad day at the office.

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but portsmouth was only the worst day at the office in 10 days, so that's progress

We need to get Salech into the team and hope he is able to hold the ball and win balls in the air.

That defence is a disaster playing from the back and they need to get rid of it as quickly as possible.

Ng comes back in but I really don't know what we do with the cb positions as all options appear hopeless.

We really have to play on the front foot from the off and attack and press.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

We need to get Salech into the team and hope he is able to hold the ball and win balls in the air.

That defence is a disaster playing from the back and they need to get rid of it as quickly as possible.

Ng comes back in but I really don't know what we do with the cb positions as all options appear hopeless.

We really have to play on the front foot from the off and attack and press.

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have we been doing that much playing out from the back?

Recent form last six games, Bristol and Plymouth in quite good form, they won't be easy, but games we need to win to push up.

https://www.soccerstats.com/formtabl...eague=england2

Derby, Luton Swansea, Watford and surprisingly Boro are in terrible form.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Bad day at the office. The club's worst day at the office since 1966, but let's move on. To Portsmouth. Where it was another bad day at the office.

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Just need a good day at the office like when we tonked swansea, who beat the wurzels just 4 days ago, and Swansea are shite

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Originally Posted by goats

Just need a good day at the office like when we tonked swansea, who beat the wurzels just 4 days ago, and Swansea are shite

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Indeed. My worry for Saturday is the fact that Bristol haven't won away since 9th November. Their away record since then is: Played 8, Won 0, Drawn 4, Lost 4.

As I am being, probably rightly, of over reacting to Portsmouth, I will accept that in this Championship almost anything is possible.
Probably 3 of our better performances have come against our local rivals so perhaps my pessimism about Bristol Saturday is unfounded.
Come on you Bluebirds!!

From Riza today:
Robertson out with a hamstring injury but hopefully back for Plymouth.
Daland has had 8 stitches in his shin and is still out.
Ramsey and Meite available.
Tanner out with a broken foot.

Best case scenario for Daland that, was worried that there'd be a lot more damage from how it looked. Thank God Meite is back... surely now with other options out wide and up front he's nowhere close to the squad?

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

From Riza today:
Robertson out with a hamstring injury but hopefully back for Plymouth.
Daland has had 8 stitches in his shin and is still out.
Ramsey and Meite available.
Tanner out with a broken foot.

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He has to start, if he gets injured again so be it but if he's fit he simply has to play.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

He has to start, if he gets injured again so be it but if he's fit he simply has to play.

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A shout for Colwill maybe? I know that we've done him to death on here, but he didn't do anything wrong when he came on at Pompey.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

A shout for Colwill maybe? I know that we've done him to death on here, but he didn't do anything wrong when he came on at Pompey.

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A ringing endorsement if ever there was one :hehe:

If the game completely breaks down, he's great. I'd play him because he might do something which is more than can be said about the other options.

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

From Riza today:
Robertson out with a hamstring injury but hopefully back for Plymouth.

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A Cardiff City player has a hamstring injury, I am stunned

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

A ringing endorsement if ever there was one :hehe:

If the game completely breaks down, he's great. I'd play him because he might do something which is more than can be said about the other options.

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With Ramsey apparently fit, surely the midfield has to be him, Chambers and Colwill.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

A ringing endorsement if ever there was one :hehe:

If the game completely breaks down, he's great. I'd play him because he might do something which is more than can be said about the other options.

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:hehe: It wan't a criticism of him. He came on, looked neat, didn't **** anything up. That's where we're at, if you do 'Ok' then you're in with a shout.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

A ringing endorsement if ever there was one :hehe:

If the game completely breaks down, he's great. I'd play him because he might do something which is more than can be said about the other options.

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he also played very well against Bristol in the away leg , their message board was very complimentary about him

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Originally Posted by Rjk

he also played very well against Bristol in the away leg , their message board was very complimentary about him

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The whole thing needs a bit of a shake up
Horwath (and I’m no fan of)
Ng
Goutas
Fish
Bagan

Chambers
Mannsverk
Colwill

Alves
ODowda
Salech

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Originally Posted by olderblue

The whole thing needs a bit of a shake up
Horwath (and I’m no fan of)
Ng
Goutas
Fish
Bagan

Chambers
Mannsverk
Colwill

Alves
ODowda
Salech

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I wouldn't mind this, I would be tempted to keep Robinson in instead of Salech though

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Originally Posted by Rjk

he also played very well against Bristol in the away leg , their message board was very complimentary about him

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That was in the 5/6 game spell where we looked good. Nobody had worked out that you had to man mark him, he absolutely tore them to bits in the second half, so Riza put him up front and completely nullified that threat :hehe: