Are they the greatest band?
Can’t be far off
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Are they the greatest band?
Can’t be far off
No.
Anything else I can help you with?
I’m with you & not TLG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
I’ve seen them live 3 times. Chrissy McVie finished Wembley with Songbird. The only concert I’ve been to where the audience walked out in silence.
In terms of Super Bands, they have to be up there. I'm no fan of them, but i suppose if we categorised bands then they'd be up there. Personally, they're that genre that makes my toes curl, and not for the right reasons, add in U2 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I think there's a fair argument to be made that Rumours is one of, if not the, best albums of all time. 8 genuine classics on one album.
It's all subjective though. Apparently, AC/DC's Back in Black album has sold more copies than Rumours.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
You're right its subjective, but I don't think you'd get many arguing against songs like Go Your Own Way or Songbird being genuine classicsQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
A pretty good band but I prefer Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac
They're one of those bands that appeal strongly to a wide range of the public, but equally they no doubt bore just as many if not more people shitless.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
That's music for you.
YES My favourite band
Agreed, I never liked the Mid Atlantic Mush Rock later version of Fleetwood Mac as much as the Peter Green versionQuote:
Originally Posted by cantonboy
Is the audience walking out in silence a good or a bad thing?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
Totally agree. Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac were superb. The lesser reincarnation were OK and Lindsey Buckingham's guitar playing is exceptional but as a whole they didn't float my boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Mort
Never liked Yes much. As for Fleetwood Mac, they’re like two bands, pre and post Peter Green - they were both good, but best ever? I’ve never thought of them in those terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian72
The Jam for me. Any day of the week.
Burst onto the scene, did their thing and left
In the City, Strange Town, Down in a Tube station at midnight, David Watts, Thats entertainment, Smithers Jones to name but a few.
All iconic songs, tremendous lyrics, anti establishment, thought provoking and straight to the point.
I like them and think that Lindsey Buckingham's guitar style/playing is exceptional, but the best? it's a personal choice and wouldn't be mine.
Everyone will have their own opinion, music is very subjective.
But Fleetwood Mac has to be one of the "best", given their longevity and overcoming all their personal problems.
Personally, I like (in no particular order) Fleetwood Mac, Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Yes, Supertramp, Steely Dan, Jess Roden Band, Eagles, etc, etc
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac are just awesome. Greeny is one of the Top 10 all time GREAT guitarists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
The pop version OF Fleetwood Mac with Buckingham/Nicks? Nah, far from being the greatest band of all time. Not even in the Top 100.
Good to see you mention Jess Roden Band. Very underrated group. Saw them support Roxy Music in September '74 at the Capitol Theatre on Queen Street. JRB were the better of the two bands.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
I don't like many of their songs - but go your own way is an undeniable classic.
I enjoyed this video of someone analysing it
https://youtu.be/4ylXt4DsB24?si=LT3NCQhS8RRa5HwL
Interestingly, Go Your Own Way only reached number 38 on the UK singles chart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Dreams was the best-selling single from Rumours and that one only reached number 24, although it was number one in the USA.
The album sales of the second Fleetwood Mac line-up were impressive, but the singles? Not so much.
My post was inclusive of when Peter Green was with them, they were a raw talent then.from original to latter day, they evolved to a very commercial outfit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
My post was inclusive of when Peter Green was with them, they were a raw talent then.from original to latter day, they evolved to a very commercial outfit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
Two different bands in all but name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
You could apply that to several bands/groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
True, although I can't think of any other examples where the music is so drastically different from one version of a band to another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
In terms of a band being considered a true great, I'd say they'd need to be genuinely influential. I don't think Fleetwood Mac have ever really fitted into the influential category. Obviously a very talented and popular act, but influential? I don't believe so, but I suppose it's all subjective.
Bands evolve. 90s Radiohead and 10s Radiohead are miles apart. But I think that applies to 60s and 70s FM moreso as the songwriting lineup was completely different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
Exactly, any band with any longevity will sound pretty different at different points. I think the Manics have a new album out, sounds absolutely nothing like their first 3 albums, you'd never believe that same band put out something like the Holy Bible, whilst the contrast between that album and their first number 1 is hugeQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Bands evolving in terms of their sound and style happens all the time. The Stranglers (one of my all-time favourite acts) are a great example. No More Heroes and Golden Brown sound as if they were produced by totally different groups.
The big difference with Fleetwood Mac is the songwriters and vocalists were completely different in the 60's version of the band by comparison to the 70's/80's version. Only the drummer and bassist spanned both bands.
Speaking of which, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie were guest musicians on one of my favourite tracks from 1978 - Werewolves of London by Warren Zevon. That didn't sound like the 60's version of Fleetwood Mac either.
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Famously Chas and Dave played bass and guitar on Eminem's "my name is", which is quite a departure from Snooker Loopy.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Interesting that Fleetwood Mac come up on here.
Until recently i would never really have given them much thought as a great band.
I never thought they would be my cup of tea, and then I heard Eva Cassidy's version of songbird, loved it. Then down a rabbit hole listening to Fleetwood Mac.
I can't say they are the greatest band I've ever heard, that would be a close call between the Wedding Present and My Bloody Valentine (with the Mary Chain not too far behind) :music::music: - but it did give me a greater appreciation of them.
There ain't no pleasing you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
:hehe: :thumbup:
I wouldn't say I'm a massive Fleetwood Mac fan, could take them or leave them (although Rumours is a great record with a great backstory).
But comments like "not even top 100" and "not influential" are ridiculous. You can hear them in pretty much any wistful, soft-rock, indie-pop band from the 90s onwards and their songs have been covered hundreds of times.
If they announced a stadium tour today every show would be sold out ten times over.
Perhaps you can. Perhaps others can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
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He’s that hairy handed gent who ran amok in Kent.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
You've summed up perfectly why the pop version of Fleetwood Mac would never ever get in my Top 100 bands as they are a 'wistful, soft rock band'. My favourite bands and artists always have to have a harder edge to them with one or two notable exceptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
Name me some indie pop bands that you think were influenced by them?
As for selling out stadiums, so have lots of totally utterly shite bands and artists (especially the more dreadful 'pop' acts) played, if not sold out, venues like Wembley Stadium.
The Reynolds Girls?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
Haim are often described as being a bit Fleetwood mac ishQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
I guess someone like Sheryl Crowe
probably plenty of others in the soft pop/rock genre around that time
Weirdly, I remember reading ages ago that Courtney Love was a big Fleetwood Mac fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
You wouldn't know it listening to Hole's albums, though.