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Bluebirds legacy numbers and the 1221 full list of bluebirds
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/club...y-numbers?s=09
Haven't seen this before.
I'm a big fan of stuff like this. Would like to see it up in the stadium if it isnt already. How many of the 1221 could you name?
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Dylan Lawlor became the very latest added to that list.
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Michael Morris
Dylan Lawlor became the very latest added to that list.
Would be good to see the academy one also- all the players who have graduated from the academy to the first team. Even if just for one game it's a hell of an achievement.
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Father Dougal
This is brand new, superb. I saw the Spurs one recently and wished we did something similar and here it is.
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1921/22 player photo is def not Jimmy Nelson..
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A Quiet Monkfish
1921/22 player photo is def not Jimmy Nelson..
Jack Nock?
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alan_corneli
Jack Nock?
Maybe. I've seen that team photo somewhere online but can't find it..
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I love this sort of stuff.
International cricket teams do it very well.
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Forget this, what I want to see up in the stadium is the plaque we were promised with our names on as the first season ticket holders at CCS which I am the ONLY one who remembers about
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delmbox
Forget this, what I want to see up in the stadium is the plaque we were promised with our names on as the first season ticket holders at CCS which I am the ONLY one who remembers about
You'll get it when sam gets his £9million when we sell the stadium naming rights.
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Father Dougal
You'll get it when sam gets his £9million when we sell the stadium naming rights.
ok fine
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Father Dougal
How many of the 1221 could you name?
I got 1220. Forgot Fred Keenor.
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Nice touch that the first team all got #1 then next is #12
Was interested to see who got some of the key numbers, e.g.
999 - JET
1000 - Dekel Keinan
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It would be interesting to plot a chart showing how many new players there were each season. I'm sure it's a lot more in the last 20 or 30 years than previosly
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Father Dougal
Yes. It's an excellent idea. Well done.
Just one little thing: I hope they correct #1 to #11 from all showing as #1.
StT.
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RichardM
It would be interesting to plot a chart showing how many new players there were each season. I'm sure it's a lot more in the last 20 or 30 years than previosly
It took 72 years to get to number 611 (Martin Thomas in 1982/83) and 42 years for the next 611 players.
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That's a great list. Does anyone know why some of the names are in bold?
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PontBlue
That's a great list. Does anyone know why some of the names are in bold?
Player in the photo. Why they've chosen those players no idea.
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LA Bluebird
Player in the photo. Why they've chosen those players no idea.
Thanks for clearing that up
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Starting at the most recent debutants and working backwards Brad Smith was the first player I had to go "Who, neber heard of him" and it was only 6 seasons ago
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PontBlue
Starting at the most recent debutants and working backwards Brad Smith was the first player I had to go "Who, neber heard of him" and it was only 6 seasons ago
I remember him vaguely, think he played a few times in the prem for Liverpool and Bournemouth?
For me it was same season, Shamar Moore. Even Wikipedia doesn't know who he is and Google is convinced I'm trying to find the similarly named actor.
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Steve the Tea
Yes. It's an excellent idea. Well done.
Just one little thing: I hope they correct #1 to #11 from all showing as #1.
StT.
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They all made the debut in the same game, ergo all #1
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Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
I got 1220. Forgot Fred Keenor.
:hehe:
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The Bloop
It took 72 years to get to number 611 (Martin Thomas in 1982/83) and 42 years for the next 611 players.
An average of 9 per season in the last century, increasing to 15 per season since 2000. Last season was the most in one season, 22. This probably reflects the greater use of academy players.
Some players should either be anonymous or give their number up,yes you number 1206 !
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Cleve van Leef
They all made the debut in the same game, ergo all #1
Yes, I understand that but has that principle been used throughout when two players made their debuts in the same game? I thought each player was to have his own distinctive number.
StT.
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The Bloop
It took 72 years to get to number 611 (Martin Thomas in 1982/83) and 42 years for the next 611 players.
I'm not surprised. In the last 42 years the number of subs has shot up
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Steve the Tea
Yes, I understand that but has that principle been used throughout when two players made their debuts in the same game? I thought each player was to have his own distinctive number.
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Just out of interest the first time numbers on shirts were used in a league game was 1928 and it didn’t become compulsory until 1939. In that first 1910 game there wasn’t a 1-11
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Des Parrot
Just out of interest the first time numbers on shirts were used in a league game was 1928 and it didn’t become compulsory until 1939. In that first 1910 game there wasn’t a 1-11
Bit off topic but weren’t players numbered 1-22 when numbers were introduced? 1-11 one team & 12-22 the other.
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Des Parrot
An average of 9 per season in the last century, increasing to 15 per season since 2000. Last season was the most in one season, 22. This probably reflects the greater use of academy players.
Some players should either be anonymous or give their number up,yes you number 1206 !
You might have started something here - try 1001!!
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668. HEATON, Tom; 669. KENNEDY, Mark should be 968 and 969.
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I love the jarring contrast between thr calibre of some of the players next to each other i.e.
961 Trevor Sinclair
963 Robbie Fowler
962......... Ross Turnbull
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Cardiff Ultra
I love the jarring contrast between thr calibre of some of the players next to each other i.e.
961 Trevor Sinclair
963 Robbie Fowler
962......... Ross Turnbull
Bonkers isn't it - having a Champions League, Europa League and 2-time FA Cup winner sandwiched between those 2 is crazy 😊
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The Bloop
Bonkers isn't it - having a Champions League, Europa League and 2-time FA Cup winner sandwiched between those 2 is crazy
Possibly the most models awarded to an ex-City player of all time.
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Des Parrot
Just out of interest the first time numbers on shirts were used in a league game was 1928 and it didn’t become compulsory until 1939. In that first 1910 game there wasn’t a 1-11
That's nothing to do with the point I was making about the Legacy numbers.
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723.. Mark Jones... First goal scorer of my Cardiff city journey. Penalty V Carlisle united.
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Steve the Tea
Yes. It's an excellent idea. Well done.
Just one little thing: I hope they correct #1 to #11 from all showing as #1.
StT.
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It's a symbolic touch, and a nice one in my opinion. Football is a team game and you need 11 players to start a game.
There was no "first Cardiff City player" because without all 11 of those men there would be no "Cardiff City" to be a player for. Well over 100 years later we're supporting the club that began when they stepped out together onto that pitch for the first time. They're all equally as important as each other to be given the #1 spot.
Also, how do you decide who would be players #2 to #11? I doubt the tactics or formation played back then would match the modern numbering system and is there even any accurate records of who played where?
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Canton Kev
It's a symbolic touch, and a nice one in my opinion. Football is a team game and you need 11 players to start a game.
There was no "first Cardiff City player" because without all 11 of those men there would be no "Cardiff City" to be a player for. Well over 100 years later we're supporting the club that began when they stepped out together onto that pitch for the first time. They're all equally as important as each other to be given the #1 spot.
Also, how do you decide who would be players #2 to #11? I doubt the tactics or formation played back then would match the modern numbering system and is there even any accurate records of who played where?
As importantly perhaps, numbers weren't worn on shirts until the late 1920's.
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
It's a symbolic touch, and a nice one in my opinion. Football is a team game and you need 11 players to start a game.
There was no "first Cardiff City player" because without all 11 of those men there would be no "Cardiff City" to be a player for. Well over 100 years later we're supporting the club that began when they stepped out together onto that pitch for the first time. They're all equally as important as each other to be given the #1 spot.
Also, how do you decide who would be players #2 to #11? I doubt the tactics or formation played back then would match the modern numbering system and is there even any accurate records of who played where?
For the first ever game it would be alphabetically for the starting XI. This would also apply if players made their debuts in the same game any season.
If players come on as substitutes the order of coming on would apply.
StT.
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Steve the Tea
For the first ever game it would be alphabetically for the starting XI. This would also apply if players made their debuts in the same game any season.
If players come on as substitutes the order of coming on would apply.
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Yes I understand how it works in any game in any season. But this wasn't any game. It's what's been considered the very first game of the club that we have all come to know and follow many years after all 11 men have long since passed away.
If Billy Watt had slipped over 2 mins before kick off and been replaced by a bloke called Mr Aaronson, then Tom Abley would've become #2 instead.
Like I said, football is a team game and you need 11 players to kick off. Every man that stepped out onto that pitch was only able to do so because of the 10 other men who walked out with him. Symbolically, the club was born from those 11 men equally.
It's a nice touch and I'd much prefer the club keep all of them as #1 rather than relegating their importance in history based on their surname.
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Wonder when we will get to 1234?
This summer, Jan 26 window or summer 2026 when we preparing for the premiership?