A goalkeeper holding the ball for more than 8 seconds will result in a corner being given to the attacking team. I s’pose I should be saying ‘Discuss’.
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A goalkeeper holding the ball for more than 8 seconds will result in a corner being given to the attacking team. I s’pose I should be saying ‘Discuss’.
If it gets enforced (it won't) it will be an improvement. An actual deterrent to time wasting.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
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Originally Posted by splott parker
I wish they would ban “short corners”, for time wasting
Frigging hate them
The decision comes as a response to goalkeepers keeping the ball in their grasp longer than the currently permitted six seconds.
As it stands, Law 12.2 states that an indirect free-kick is to be awarded if a goalkeeper “controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it”.
A statement released by the IFAB on Friday read: “The IFAB has unanimously decided to amend Law 12.2 (Indirect free kick).
"The amendment means that if a goalkeeper holds the ball for longer than eight seconds (with the referee using a visual five-second countdown), the referee will award a corner kick to the opposing team (rather than the current indirect free kick for more than six seconds).
taken from https://www.sportbible.com/football/...79876-20250301
How is a short corner time wasting? You're on form, fair play!Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Cumon, you’ve seen enough football to see that touching the ball it’s circumference to another player, repeatedly, is not pretty to watchQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Agreed, but the ball is live at a short corner, it's up to the opposition to get the ball back.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
There’s already a law in place that doesn’t get enforced ever. In hundreds of games I can’t recall an indirect free kick being awarded due to a keeper holding onto the ball for too long.
Another chance for referees to punish teams they don't like, who will time it the referee, I don't trust them.
I like that idea.
I would also like to see a rule stating that 'all players should be standing when defending a set-piece' to stop the "draught excluder".
There is also a suggestion by Pierluigi Collina that penalties should be as in a penalty shootout, if the penalty is saved and rebounds, then the ball is dead and a goal kick is awarded.
This would be perfect for VARQuote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Just enforce the yellow card more forcefully. They make these rules and in an ideal world it makes sense but they also make more scenarios to get wrong. Sometimes it will be, sometimes they won’t do it.
People want consistency more than anything.
Current rule isn't enforced, can't remember seeing it once. So why would making a new rule that is stricter than the current unenforced rule help?
Agreed, just enforce the current rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Bluebird
Another thing they now ignore is keepers kicking outside of the box. 50% are handball, sometimes a yard or more.
Seems fair. If you can't score from a penalty you don't really deserve a tap in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rontomuk
This is a perfect example of time-wasting. Short tap to team-mate, crowd around ball with no intention of crossing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Easy fix would be to allow no player within 10 yards of the player taking the corner kick.
Would also like to see a rule reversal that a goal-kick should go straight out of the area.
What happens if the ball is initially saved but back-spin or a richochet off the keeper (after hitting a post / cross-bar) puts the ball in the net?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rontomuk
Don't worry about that...We have VAR for that sort of thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Yes, the introduction of the short, ‘inside the area’ goal kick hasn’t improved the game one bit. Especially when teams feel they have to do it every bloody time. If they wanted to spice things up using this law, the attacking team should be allowed players in the area as well, that’d shake things up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
How is it timewasting if the ball is in play?Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
The ball doesn't need to travel a circumference to be in play, it just has to visibly move.
The ball is live, the team taking the short corner have no obligation to open up and be more expensive, that's on the other side to work out. Could argue what we did against villa by playing on our own goal line goes against the spirit of the game, stifles play, stops creativity etc, maybe that should be penalised in some way as well? For me, it's not a problem. Football is about working it out and finding solutions, more laws means more complications and less enjoyment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
It is the same rules as a penalty shootout, in those instances, it is a goal scoredQuote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
How long will it be till the Canton start counting back from 8 just to put the keeper under pressure.:hehe:
I think a fair few might struggle with that...Quote:
Originally Posted by sneggyblubird
The only problem is that corners always take more than 8 secs with all the jostling, pulling of shirts etc and refs always talking to players not to do it, who then ignore that advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by city1927
Football has a great propensity in addressing one problem they cause another.
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It's a very good point to be fair. If they really want to legislate it out of the game then make it a yellow card, and maybe VAR can be used quickly (ha) if it results in a red card. Reckon goalies would get the message pretty quick that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve the Tea
But there is an argument that an out-field player can hold the ball until he has someone he feels safe to pass it to, so why should a keeper be put into a situation where he can be penalised for not kicking the ball away when none of his team are placed to receive it.
Because the outfield player can be tackled, but the keeper cannot be if he holds the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
I agree. All this has been the knock on effect of the back pass rule and taking goal / free kicks with other players in the penalty area. Each rule change has caused another problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Bluebird
There's nothing wrong with passing back to the keeper and the keeper picking the ball up with their hands if keepers were booked after holding on to the ball too long.
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Originally Posted by lardy
Cumon, 4 players in a square yard of pitch, kicking f uck out of each other’s ankles, NOT TIME WASTING ?????
Ya having a laugh
See above replyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
It's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Timewasting is a player, knowing he's about to be substituted, deliberately being at the farthest point of the pitch and walking slowly towards the other touchline. Or spending 15 seconds deciding who to throw to, only for another player to come and take the throw instead.
You're talking about running down the clock, which isn't the same thing.
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Originally Posted by lardy
So basically, TIME WASTING !!!!
I'm honestly amazed that you've been watching football for presumably decades and don't know the difference between the ball being in play and out of playQuote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Just enforce the current rule.
I was talking about this to our ref yesterday, he asked me, what would you prefer as In-direct free kick in the 12 yd box or a corner, of course you would prefer the free kick
I questioned would It be enforced and he said to me " lets time the away GK today " , 1/2 time comes around and he says " the longest she had the ball was 11 seconds " which was crazy as we were winning , with about 15 mins to go, he shouted over, 17 seconds, just as crazy they were still losing
they lost and the ref said at the end, the longest was 17 seconds, I didnt blow up as you were winning and she was using up her own time :hehe::hehe:
to be fair to the ref, he is one of the better ones around here and does ref NLS games
Referees almost always take 60+ seconds to administer a simple free kick outside the box, even when no-one is booked.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
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What I've always found mildly amusing is it takes x amount of time for the keeper to resume play with a GK.
If one team is ahead the losing GK will now be hurried along by the ref even if in real time it's barely any difference to how it was earlier and no one was bothered. It's often merely the perception. Some of course will take the piss.
Used to happen a lot when we had a long throw, we would take 40 seconds to get the ball in to play but if we were behind and the opposition took a few seconds the fans and ref would be getting involved.
Simplest thing to deter actual time wasting is the clock just stops.
I like the new law when the keeper has it in his hands as long as it is enforced.