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11-03-25, 21:55
Hilts

Warnock

Until the end of season yes or no?

Yes for me.
11-03-25, 21:56
delmbox

Re: Warnock

of course not
11-03-25, 21:57
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Until the end of season yes or no?

Yes for me.

No. I'd rather go down than watch us go long ball. In any case, we haven't got the players he needs - tall, imposing centre backs, height all over the pitch and leaders on the pitch.
11-03-25, 21:59
Henry Hill

Re: Warnock

****ing idiot. Lay off the drugs
11-03-25, 21:59
Tuerto

Re: Warnock

No chance.
11-03-25, 22:00
Tuerto

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

No. I'd rather go down than watch us go long ball. In any case, we haven't got the players he needs - tall, imposing centre backs, height all over the pitch and leaders on the pitch.

Pace out wide was what Warnock liked as well.
11-03-25, 22:01
Hilts

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

No. I'd rather go down than watch us go long ball. In any case, we haven't got the players he needs - tall, imposing centre backs, height all over the pitch and leaders on the pitch.

So you'd rather go down playing that total crap today whatever style you call it than win enough games going long?? Fair enough.

That's if Warnock would actually go long.
11-03-25, 22:03
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuerto

Pace out wide was what Warnock liked as well.

True.

I remember when he took over from Trollope it was clear we needed a colossus at the back and pace. He brought in Bamba and Hoilett and built from there. We still had a reasonable enough spine to the squad.

We don't have a spine. Or pace.
11-03-25, 22:03
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

So you'd rather go down playing that total crap today whatever style you call it than win enough games going long?? Fair enough.

That's if Warnock would actually go long.

I'm not too bothered if we go down or not. The whole club needs a rethink.
11-03-25, 22:04
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Warnock

You could have a Pep Klopp hybrid, and they'd struggle with this shower.

This lot are garbage and it's time everyone realised it. We are here because they're not good enough. They weren't good enough 3 seasons ago, they weren't good enough 2 seasons ago and they're not bloody good enough now.

Warnock wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot barge pole
11-03-25, 22:04
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

We don't have a spine. Or pace.

Or ability
11-03-25, 22:05
Tuerto

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

True.

I remember when he took over from Trollope it was clear we needed a colossus at the back and pace. He brought in Bamba and Hoilett and built from there. We still had a reasonable enough spine to the squad.

We don't have a spine. Or pace.

If Warnock came in it would be disastrous. He needs four or five of his own players, some strong characters who will put it on the line. We don't have anyone like that, This lot a piss weak.
11-03-25, 22:05
Hilts

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I'm not too bothered if we go down or not. The whole club needs a rethink.

Fair enough. Keep Riza. Let's just go down.
11-03-25, 22:05
Tuerto

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

You could have a Pep Klopp hybrid, and they'd struggle with this shower.

This lot are garbage and it's time everyone realised it. We are here because they're not good enough. They weren't good enough 3 seasons ago, they weren't good enough 2 seasons ago and they're not bloody good enough now.

Warnock wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot barge pole

Amen....
11-03-25, 22:07
Tuerto

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

You could have a Pep Klopp hybrid, and they'd struggle with this shower.

This lot are garbage and it's time everyone realised it. We are here because they're not good enough. They weren't good enough 3 seasons ago, they weren't good enough 2 seasons ago and they're not bloody good enough now.

Warnock wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot barge pole

And players are given a free pass because they turn up every 8 games or so. We just take it.
11-03-25, 22:08
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Or ability

Thought I'd missed something out.
11-03-25, 22:08
Hilts

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuerto

If Warnock came in it would be disastrous. He needs four or five of his own players, some strong characters who will put it on the line. We don't have anyone like that, This lot a piss weak.

More disastrous than that tonight?

I have no idea what Riza is trying to do. I don't think he does or the players either. No Ashford at all. Meite again.

I just don't see how we survive.
11-03-25, 22:09
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Fair enough. Keep Riza. Let's just go down.

I'm not adverse to Riza going, but Warnock isn't the answer.
11-03-25, 22:09
Father Dougal

Re: Warnock

We aren't talking about what warnock needs to actually win the league!

Yes exceptional defenders and pace out wide etc... if warnock has that he can get any average side promoted from this league.

When he went to Rotherham and Huddersfield I wonder if they were significantly better than we are now? Maybe. Maybe they were equally as bad.

We've won 4 in 25. We need to win at least 3 games in our last 9 to have a chance. That probably won't be enough with the results derby are getting. We just need someone who can find a way of getting some points from somewhere. Warnock is worth a shot absolutely.
11-03-25, 22:11
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuerto

And players are given a free pass because they turn up every 8 games or so. We just take it.

So many of them stink. So many of the current squad were in the Morison team and they're still here, even after we spend millions. Oh, he isn't bad, he made a nice pass 4 months ago. I'm sick to the back teeth of most of them.
11-03-25, 22:12
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

I just don't see how we survive.

We don't. We can't defend, and we spent 5m on centre halves in the summer :hehe:
11-03-25, 22:13
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Until the end of season yes or no?

Yes for me.

What happens if he wants a 1 year contract? I wouldn't want him here next season at all.
11-03-25, 22:15
Rock_Flock_of_Five

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I'm not too bothered if we go down or not. The whole club needs a rethink.

Really, not bothered?
Wouldn't it be better to have a rethink having just scraped survival in the Championship, rather than in League One?
11-03-25, 22:15
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

We don't. We can't defend, and we spent 5m on centre halves in the summer :hehe:

Shows how well our transfer committee has done. All Hail King Vinny!
11-03-25, 22:16
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Really, not bothered?
Wouldn't it be better to have a rethink having just scraped survival in the Championship, rather than in League One?

Think we've been there before and it didn't make any difference.
11-03-25, 22:16
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Really, not bothered?
Wouldn't it be better to have a rethink having just scraped survival in the Championship, rather than in League One?

We are going down under Tan, it is a certainty. It just depends when now.
11-03-25, 22:17
Hilts

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

What happens if he wants a 1 year contract? I wouldn't want him here next season at all.

It's all irrelevant they won't sack Riza.
11-03-25, 22:17
Rock_Flock_of_Five

Re: Warnock

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Think we've been there before and it didn't make any difference.

There's no saying for sure that the culture within the club would change if we went down either.
11-03-25, 22:18
Tuerto

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

More disastrous than that tonight?

I have no idea what Riza is trying to do. I don't think he does or the players either. No Ashford at all. Meite again.

I just don't see how we survive.

I don't want either of them. I don't think that Warnock has it in him anymore, he's an old man now. More importantly, i don't think that he could get this lot to play in a way that suits his style.
11-03-25, 22:22
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

There's no saying for sure that the culture within the club would change if we went down either.

Of course, but there's bugger all we can do about it
11-03-25, 22:26
Father Dougal

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Of course, but there's bugger all we can do about it

No but you literally said in this thread your reason for not being bothered if we go down is the "club needs a rethink".

I don't think a rethink is any more likely in league 1 than the Championship.
11-03-25, 22:28
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Father Dougal

No but you literally said in this thread your reason for not being bothered if we go down is the "club needs a rethink".

I don't think a rethink is any more likely in league 1 than the Championship.

I actually do. They might realise they've completely ****ed it.

They won't but they might. If we stay up, they won't do anything. Like they didn't under Morison, or Hudson, or Sabri, or Mick, or Bulut. It'll be more of the same.
11-03-25, 22:31
Hilts

Re: Warnock

Let's face it our dumb feckers are likely to replace Riza with Purse or Ramasut while they think things over.

They deserve what's coming.
11-03-25, 22:31
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Father Dougal

No but you literally said in this thread your reason for not being bothered if we go down is the "club needs a rethink".

I don't think a rethink is any more likely in league 1 than the Championship.

I also said there's nothing we can do about relegation. If it happens, it happens.
11-03-25, 22:31
Father Dougal

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

I actually do. They might realise they've completely ****ed it.

They won't but they might. If we stay up, they won't do anything. Like they didn't under Morison, or Hudson, or Sabri, or Mick, or Bulut. It'll be more of the same.

Absolutely no chance dalman and Tan and borley and those will be admitting they got anything wrong. There won't be any changes or a rethink if we go down. It won't happen.
11-03-25, 22:39
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Father Dougal

Absolutely no chance dalman and Tan and borley and those will be admitting they got anything wrong. There won't be any changes or a rethink if we go down. It won't happen.

People might finally do what should have been done back in 2012 and get these parasites out of the club. I'm in a good mood.

Glad you mention Borley. He is definitely culpable.
11-03-25, 22:47
Hilts

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

People might finally do what should have been done back in 2012 and get these parasites out of the club. I'm in a good mood.

Glad you mention Borley. He is definitely culpable.

To get them out we need someone to want to come in.

I don't think there is any interest.
11-03-25, 22:50
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

To get them out we need someone to want to come in.

I don't think there is any interest.

They should be hounded out, like they should have been told where to go 13 years ago.
11-03-25, 23:01
Trigger

Re: Warnock

With the right tools Warnock could do something. We need some sort of lift and he is a great man manager at this level, particularly in the short term.

I just don't see this squad reacting to him though or he being able to do much with it.

It's just a nice squad, neat and tidy at times, but nice.

Never thought I'd miss shithousing our way to wins as much as I do at the moment.
11-03-25, 23:41
The Lone Gunman

Re: Warnock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Until the end of season yes or no?

Yes for me.

Don’t be ridiculous. Warnock is like Ramsey - finished at this level, and probably finished full stop.

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