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Riza press conference today- the club is divided.
https://x.com/MattSouth7/status/1912532906209169631
90 second clip here.
"Fascinating press conference with Cardiff City manager Omer Riza this afternoon. Insists he'd be happy to lose his job if the hierarchy felt someone else could come in and save Cardiff. Says the club is divided. Four games left to climb out of the relegation zone.
@ITVWales"
Oh and he says he does read all the comments from fans but unfortunately a lot of them are clueless.
Hi Omer! :wave:
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He looks a broken man and like he's resigned himself to the drop.
A painful watch.
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MacAdder
He looks a broken man and like he's resigned himself to the drop.
A painful watch.
Yeah not a comfortable watch at all.
To call the fans clueless is an interesting road to go down considering his record though!
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Father Dougal
Yeah not a comfortable watch at all.
To call the fans clueless is an interesting road to go down considering his record though!
He's not the brightest is he bless him
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City123
He's not the brightest is he bless him
Or he is begging to be sacked?
I can't work it out? Why come out with that at this stage?
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His head's shot.
It seems like he can't see any positive outcome from our remaining games and he is almost begging for someone to come in.
If ever there was a man simply not ready for a relegation scrap, there's one right there.
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
His head's shot.
It seems like he can't see any positive outcome from our remaining games and he is almost begging for someone to come in.
If ever there was a man simply not ready for a relegation scrap, there's one right there.
Yesh I think we all thought we were coming bottom anyway but watching his body language and these comments I don't think we'll get anymore points now. That seems to be what he thinks also
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
His head's shot.
It seems like he can't see any positive outcome from our remaining games and he is almost begging for someone to come in.
If ever there was a man simply not ready for a relegation scrap, there's one right there.
Yup, he's ranting, talking shit, the actions of a desperate man. He reads all the comments? why the **** would he say that, he's a cock.
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Tuerto
Yup, he's ranting, talking shit, the actions of a desperate man. He reads all the comments? why the **** would he say that, he's a cock.
I accept the players have to take responsibility etc etc but I do feel for them a bit being managed by him when you watch things like this. With his changing teams and tactics game by game.
He seems the type he probably thinks his players are clueless also and if only they just listened to his genius methods.......
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Father Dougal
I accept the players have to take responsibility etc etc but I do feel for them a bit being managed by him when you watch things like this. With his changing teams and tactics game by game.
He seems the type he probably thinks his players are clueless also and if only they just listened to his genius methods.......
This all day long.
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Is he being held as a hostage by the club?
The poor bugger looks and sounds scrambled.
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If he comes over like that in training and during games, it's no wonder we're struggling. He hasn't got the most positive of demeanors.
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The players must take the piss out of this guy, he's inspires absolutely no confidence.
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Those comments about the fans being clueless will become a big issue. It's picking up a lot of social media traction across the UK press.
He will have to do a statement backtracking tomorrow or be sacked.
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Father Dougal
Those comments about the fans being clueless will become a big issue. It's picking up a lot of social media traction across the UK press.
He will have to do a statement backtracking tomorrow or be sacked.
Tan won't care. In fact, he probably agrees.
If Riza had said Tan was clueless he'd be in bigger trouble.
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The Lone Gunman
Tan won't care. In fact, he probably agrees.
If Riza had said Tan was clueless he'd be in bigger trouble.
Yeah you are probably right about tan.
Just seems like the type of comments could get some real interest across the UK and a lot of attention on him.
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
His head's shot.
It seems like he can't see any positive outcome from our remaining games and he is almost begging for someone to come in.
If ever there was a man simply not ready for a relegation scrap, there's one right there.
Reminds me of Trollope in some ways - probably better as a coach but not a manager and a leader. Trollope overthought things and so has Riza.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Reminds me of Trollope in some ways - probably better as a coach but not a manager and a leader. Trollope overthought things and so has Riza.
I know what you're getting at, but there's nothing on Riza's CV to suggest he's even a decent coach at senior level.
At least Trollope had a solid coaching background before he became City's manager for a brief spell - and he'd also had five years in the manager's seat at Bristol Rovers. He's gone on to be assistant manager at Brighton, Forest and Luton. I'll be surprised if Riza does anything similar in future.
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MacAdder
He looks a broken man and like he's resigned himself to the drop.
A painful watch.
It really is so sad seeing him in a situation that really is beyond him. It was a job that anyone with an ounce of knowledge about football would not have given him at this stage of his career. The pressure of managing such a high profile club in the Championship was far too big a jump from his last management role. That that jump was Cardiff City, with all its hierarchical problems, was beyond sensible.
StT.
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MacAdder
He looks a broken man and like he's resigned himself to the drop.
A painful watch.
Like all the players then….
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So what’s Riza actually referring to when he talks of the club being divided?
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The Lone Gunman
So what’s Riza actually referring to when he talks of the club being divided?
I think he said expectations levels of the fans are unrealistic.
So it's not united between players coaches and fans as fans have too high expectations was what I thought he was trying to say.
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This is very much like the final days of Nathan Jones at Southampton.
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Father Dougal
I think he said expectations levels of the fans are unrealistic.
So it's not united between players coaches and fans as fans have too high expectations was what I thought he was trying to say.
If he thinks fans expectations of playing well enough to stay up are unrealistic, he's totally and utterly lost the plot. By all accounts a team in the top half of the league in wage bill, transfer spend and agent fees, if the various sources are to be believed. Utter bellend as well as being a parks league level manager.
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The Lone Gunman
I know what you're getting at, but there's nothing on Riza's CV to suggest he's even a decent coach at senior level.
At least Trollope had a solid coaching background before he became City's manager for a brief spell - and he'd also had five years in the manager's seat at Bristol Rovers. He's gone on to be assistant manager at Brighton, Forest and Luton. I'll be surprised if Riza does anything similar in future.
Agreed. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up next season.
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
I think he said expectations levels of the fans are unrealistic.
So it's not united between players coaches and fans as fans have too high expectations was what I thought he was trying to say.
We should be so lucky we're not bottom, as we will be under this clown.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Agreed. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up next season.
There's nothing to suggest he's even a decent coach. Watford were God awful going forwards last season, and he was in charge of that. We were God awful when he was coach, and his management speaks for itself.
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
Those comments about the fans being clueless will become a big issue. It's picking up a lot of social media traction across the UK press.
He will have to do a statement backtracking tomorrow or be sacked.
It probably suits the hierarchy to have him become the bad guy tbh. No chance of him getting sacked for that
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superfeathers
It probably suits the hierarchy to have him become the bad guy tbh. No chance of him getting sacked for that
They can pin the blame on him, and they'll certainly try to rather than the massive, massive failings that have contributed to this mess
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That’s the comments of a man who knows he won’t be here next year.
Which ironically proves him right, as plenty of people were saying he would be regardless of what division we were in :hehe:
These final 4 games will be… interesting. To say the least.
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You often hear fans claim certain managers have "lost the dressing room". It's an overused phrase, an assumption that poor results invariably lead to a division between the players and management, when in fact there isn't any such division.
Nevertheless, if you look at Riza's recent demeanor on the touchline - hands in pockets, sending subs on, but without putting a customary arm around them and not giving them any last minute instructions.
He's clearly lost the connection with the players. This was evident when he left the players out on the pitch against Stoke as he hastily went down the tunnel instead.
He doesn't shout out instructions anymore, he knows the players don't have belief in him.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
You often hear fans claim certain managers have "lost the dressing room". It's an overused phrase, an assumption that poor results invariably lead to a division between the players and management, when in fact there isn't any such division.
Nevertheless, if you look at Riza's recent demeanor on the touchline - hands in pockets, sending subs on, but without putting a customary arm around them and not giving them any last minute instructions.
He's clearly lost the connection with the players. This was evident when he left the players out on the pitch against Stoke as he hastily went down the tunnel instead.
He doesn't shout out instructions anymore, he knows the players don't have belief in him.
Maybe he's lost faith in the players as well? I wouldn't blame him after what they've produced in the last four games.
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A manager saying a club is divided going into the final stages of a season where relegation is looking more and more likely is a novel way of going about things - I can only assume that he means that the link between team and fans is broken, but, whatever he meant, it's hard to see how any good can come of it.
Just a couple of comments about matters that came up in. the press conference.
First, whether he meant it or not, Riza gave an impression that the supporters who follow the club away somehow "get" what is going on more than. other supporters of the club. It needs to be said that I'm sure there are plenty of City fans who don't go to away games who would be there following the club all over the country if they could afford it or if they did not have other things in their life which makes it impossible to go to away matches. I accept it's been different this season, but it must be said that in recent years, those who go to away games have tended get a lot more to cheer about than those who are limited to going to home games.
I don't blame managers like Riza for not knowing that in the last five seasons (including this one), City have won thirty eight league games at Cardiff City Stadium and lost fifty one. We've already lost ten times at home this season and this means that for rhe fourth successive time, our number of home defeats have madfe it into double figures. After all, he's only interested in what happens at any club while he's employed by them, but like so many of our recent bosses and players, he doesn't know that the crap we've had to watch at home this season has become par for the course in the 2020s. Those on the playing side at the club who bemoan the home support, as I'm sure some of them do, should think about that - "long suffering" doesn't cover the half of it.
Secondly, anmd on a similar theme, Riza clearly was not happy that the eight Cup Finals line we heard after the Blackburn win had become something of a joke. However, I'm afraid that's what you get when a team that is supposed to be battling for their lives turn in four performances like the ones we saw against Sheffield Wednesday, QPR, Preston and, in particular, Stoke. For a while against Sheffield Wednesday we looked like a side that were confident of beating the drop and showed a bit of quality, we also kept on going to the end against Preston. Overall however, we've just not been good in terms of performance and attitude as a whole over our past four games and I'm afraid a lot of supporters, the majority of which only get to see the dross we've been producing at home over the past five years in the flesh are goiong to get cynical about all aspects of a club that seems to get so little right these days.
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Does anyone else think he looks ill? I think the club have a duty of care to get him out of the firing line, especially with what happened to his father in January.
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TheBirchgrovePub
Does anyone else think he looks ill? I think the club have a duty of care to get him out of the firing line, especially with what happened to his father in January.
Yeah it's not a comfortable watch is it and he doesn't look well.
I think the greatest insult and embarrassment to him if even when he is saying these things that would normally make people angry- in general people just feel sorry for him and pity him as he is so far out of his depth it's embarrassing.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Reminds me of Trollope in some ways - probably better as a coach but not a manager and a leader. Trollope overthought things and so has Riza.
Worse than Bulut, then you got there eventually; 12th is higher than 24th, 23rd, or 22nd.
Poor bugger has been out of his depth since day one, how you didn't see it God only knows.
A half-decent experienced manager would have us way up the table, and safe by now.
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the other bob wilson
A manager saying a club is divided going into the final stages of a season where relegation is looking more and more likely is a novel way of going about things - I can only assume that he means that the link between team and fans is broken, but, whatever he meant, it's hard to see how any good can come of it.
Just a couple of comments about matters that came up in. the press conference.
First, whether he meant it or not, Riza gave an impression that the supporters who follow the club away somehow "get" what is going on more than. other supporters of the club. It needs to be said that I'm sure there are plenty of City fans who don't go to away games who would be there following the club all over the country if they could afford it or if they did not have other things in their life which makes it impossible to go to away matches. I accept it's been different this season, but it must be said that in recent years, those who go to away games have tended get a lot more to cheer about than those who are limited to going to home games.
I don't blame managers like Riza for not knowing that in the last five seasons (including this one), City have won thirty eight league games at Cardiff City Stadium and lost fifty one. We've already lost ten times at home this season and this means that for rhe fourth successive time, our number of home defeats have madfe it into double figures. After all, he's only interested in what happens at any club while he's employed by them, but like so many of our recent bosses and players, he doesn't know that the crap we've had to watch at home this season has become par for the course in the 2020s. Those on the playing side at the club who bemoan the home support, as I'm sure some of them do, should think about that - "long suffering" doesn't cover the half of it.
Secondly, anmd on a similar theme, Riza clearly was not happy that the eight Cup Finals line we heard after the Blackburn win had become something of a joke. However, I'm afraid that's what you get when a team that is supposed to be battling for their lives turn in four performances like the ones we saw against Sheffield Wednesday, QPR, Preston and, in particular, Stoke. For a while against Sheffield Wednesday we looked like a side that were confident of beating the drop and showed a bit of quality, we also kept on going to the end against Preston. Overall however, we've just not been good in terms of performance and attitude as a whole over our past four games and I'm afraid a lot of supporters, the majority of which only get to see the dross we've been producing at home over the past five years in the flesh are goiong to get cynical about all aspects of a club that seems to get so little right these days.
2020’s a complete reversal of the 1920’s.
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
Yesh I think we all thought we were coming bottom anyway but watching his body language and these comments I don't think we'll get anymore points now. That seems to be what he thinks also
You get the impression that for at least the last month he's almost offering himself up for the sack, a sort of 'put me out of this misery' situation. I'm sure he would have resigned if just given a nudge..
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TheBirchgrovePub
Does anyone else think he looks ill? I think the club have a duty of care to get him out of the firing line, especially with what happened to his father in January.
I agree with this. I think he has been hung out to dry by the club leadership - happy for someone else to answer the difficult media questions. I know that the season has proved he did not have the experience and perhaps the character to succeed. But there was a brief period when we played some very attractive football and turned around an awful start under Bulut. But from the very beginning, the club has handled the management issue really poorly seeminging just keeping him hanging on a string. His constant tinkering is evidence of his gradual loss of confidence and now we see a broken man. Sad for him, depressing for us and shameful from the club.
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the other bob wilson
First, whether he meant it or not, Riza gave an impression that the supporters who follow the club away somehow "get" what is going on more than. other supporters of the club.
Here's what he said:
"They (the fans) will be there in their numbers. There is a really good core of supporters at this club. That's something I've learnt. They look at the game, don't profess to know everything about the game, but they understand what their main objective is - to support the players no matter what. When you have got fans like that, they are very important to the club and I've seen a lot of them away from home."
I'm amazed anyone has got any sympathy for this condescending clown. His air of superiority is hilarious considering he's clearly as thick as two short planks.