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Ex-Bluebirds at Oxford United
https://www.oufc.co.uk/news/night-ce...-season-awards
Ciaron Brown was Oxford's Supporters' Player of the Year and their Players' Player of the Year.
Will Vaulks was their Community Player of Year for his off-field contribution
Mark Harris also got an award for being Oxford's top scorer (only six goals).
Meanwhile, their Goal of the Season award went to Cameron Brannagan for his superb strike at the CCS.
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https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2025/04/...-of-the-season
Ebou Adams was Derby's Player of the Year and Players' Player of the Year.
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The Lone Gunman
Jesus they know how to rub it in don't they, it shows how bad our Management was when a team with players like that finish above us.
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Should I infer from this that we should've held on to them or is it a sign at how far we've fallen? Good for them that they were pushed off the sinking ship but they would've come down with us if they'd stayed.
Did anyone suggest they should stay because they'd be useful for our relegation zone team or were we (foolishly) looking further up?
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Josh Murphy won Portsmouth's Player of the Season, Players’ Player of the Season and Goal of the Season awards.
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Josh Murphy won Portsmouth's Player of the Season, Players’ Player of the Season and Goal of the Season awards.
Presented with his trophy by Pompey skipper Marlon Pack:
https://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/...of-the-season/
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Well this is an uplifting thread!
Look forward to all this seasons failures going on to win awards and excel at their new clubs. Sad thing is we wouldn't bet against it!
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Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
Should I infer from this that we should've held on to them or is it a sign at how far we've fallen? Good for them that they were pushed off the sinking ship but they would've come down with us if they'd stayed.
Did anyone suggest they should stay because they'd be useful for our relegation zone team or were we (foolishly) looking further up?
it's possible that brown would have improved us, given how bad the defence was.
I think Adams would have improved us and there's definitely a case for Josh Murphy as well.
of course we'll never know if they would have played as well for us though
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Rjk
it's possible that brown would have improved us, given how bad the defence was.
I think Adams would have improved us and there's definitely a case for Josh Murphy as well.
of course we'll never know if they would have played as well for us though
I'd say could rather than would for all.
There's every likelihood we've got a lot of players in our squad who if they were at other clubs their fans would like- probably more than they are liked here as we don't seem to like any of our players!
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Father Dougal
There's every likelihood we've got a lot of players in our squad who if they were at other clubs their fans would like - probably more than they are liked here as we don't seem to like any of our players!
A quick glance at the table should indicate why that might be (although it's not really the case).
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The Lone Gunman
A quick glance at the table should indicate why that might be (although it's not really the case).
For my own part i quite like fish bagan ashford. Ralls if he counts now?
I think they are all league 1 players but I quite like them. Can't think of many others really. Don't hate them just ambivalent.
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Rjk
I think Adams would have improved us...
Adams started just three league games for City. He's started 58 so far in a season and a half at Derby, and has scored 7 goals (6 this season).
His is a strange case. He didn't really look up this level when he was here, but he clearly is. I guess better coaching and management has played a part.
I think Brown is a bit of a late developer who has improved significantly with regular games, initially at a lower level. He made just 16 league starts for us in total (0 goals). He's made 139 starts for Oxford and has weighed in with 12 goals.
He's a good example of why I believe a few of our younger players could improve for the experience of playing regular football at League One level next season. Brown established himself properly in League One and is now doing well in the Championship at the age of 27.
Murphy has always had the ability to do well at this level. Confidence seems to be a big part of his game, and he has that at the moment.
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When was the last time we had a team that was well coached and performed to a higher standard than the sum of its parts? Perhaps that explains why so many players seem to have improved after leaving the club in the last few years.
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Probably why better players like Colwill Ashford Robertson Salech should be pushing for moves this summer.
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LeningradCowboy
When was the last time we had a team that was well coached and performed to a higher standard than the sum of its parts? Perhaps that explains why so many players seem to have improved after leaving the club in the last few years.
The 2018 promotion season under Warnock, Zohore was a very good striker for us that season but was abysmal at West Brom. I think Warnock was able to forge a team that was better than the individuals, well in the Championship anyway, less so in the Premier league
Alex Robertson was very good for Pompey in the first half of their promotion campaign before he got injured, wonder if he’s another example of somebody who would improve playing elsewhere? Maybe he’ll be better back in league 1 under a new manager with us
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LeningradCowboy
When was the last time we had a team that was well coached and performed to a higher standard than the sum of its parts? Perhaps that explains why so many players seem to have improved after leaving the club in the last few years.
remember that west ham side who got relegated from the premier League, that had the likes of Joe Cole, Michael Carrick, Jermaine Defoe, Paolo Dicanio, David James etc.
all good players, all well coached but just didn't click well together at all
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North Cardiff Blue
Jesus they know how to rub it in don't they, it shows how bad our Management was when a team with players like that finish above us.
You’ve said some shocking things about Ebou Adams on here and now he’s made you look a bit of an idiot.
Have a look at Adams’ career.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebou_Adams
Started out in non league, earned himself a move to Norwich and played a bit of league football while out on loan. However, he didn’t do well enough to earn himself a second contract with Norwich and, so, at 22, he was back in non league football with Ebbsfleet. So, he was first considered to be not good enough for the EFL, earned himself a chance though only to be rejected by the full time game for a second time. Adams then gets another chance with Forest Green and does well enough to get signed by Forest Green where his form in League 2 persuades us to sign him on a three year contract.
Adams was very popular with Forest Green fans and, clearly, is at Derby as well. I remember talk about him being a good influence in the dressing room in his early days at City with his bubbly,upbeat nature, but he then suffered a freak injury in the opening minutes of his first pre season game with us and so his first campaign here turns out to be a virtual write off. In fact, his time at Cardiff ended virtually before it begun because he was never rated by Erol Bulut it seems and I’m surprised he made as many as eleven league appearances for us before we let him go.
It’s clear that Adams had had a lot of setbacks in his career and itÂ’s taken him until heÂ’s nearly thirty to become an established Championship player. That says to me that while he may not be the best ability wise, mentally he’s spot on.
TLG posts that Ciaron Brown is a late developer after having to work his way up through non league football and it wasn’t until he was 22 that he made his EFL debut with us.
Again, you suspect that Brown has to be strong mentally to make it a position where he is now regarded as a good Championship performer in his late 20s.
Now, maybe I’m wide of the mark here, but I’ve spent nearly all of this season thinking that mentally this is one of the weakest City sides I’ve ever seen and, although I accept you’re always likely to hear things like this when a team is unsuccessful, there are stories beginning to emerge of a pretty toxic dressing room.
It seems to me that, although there was a tendency to look down our noses at players like Adams and Brown while they were here, they’re both exactly the kind of players we needed more of this season - too many heads dropped too quickly with us all season and it seems pretty obvious that Adams and Brown have been complete opposites of that for Derby and Oxford.
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the other bob wilson
You’ve said some shocking things about Ebou Adams on here and now he’s made you look a bit of an idiot.
Have a look at Adams’ career.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebou_Adams
Started out in non league, earned himself a move to Norwich and played a bit of league football while out on loan. However, he didn’t do well enough to earn himself a second contract with Norwich and, so, at 22, he was back in non league football with Ebbsfleet. So, he was first considered to be not good enough for the EFL, earned himself a chance though only to be rejected by the full time game for a second time. Adams then gets another chance with Forest Green and does well enough to get signed by Forest Green where his form in League 2 persuades us to sign him on a three year contract.
Adams was very popular with Forest Green fans and, clearly, is at Derby as well. I remember talk about him being a good influence in the dressing room in his early days at City with his bubbly,upbeat nature, but he then suffered a freak injury in the opening minutes of his first pre season game with us and so his first campaign here turns out to be a virtual write off. In fact, his time at Cardiff ended virtually before it begun because he was never rated by Erol Bulut it seems and I’m surprised he made as many as eleven league appearances for us before we let him go.
It’s clear that Adams had had a lot of setbacks in his career and itÂ’s taken him until heÂ’s nearly thirty to become an established Championship player. That says to me that while he may not be the best ability wise, mentally he’s spot on.
TLG posts that Ciaron Brown is a late developer after having to work his way up through non league football and it wasn’t until he was 22 that he made his EFL debut with us.
Again, you suspect that Brown has to be strong mentally to make it a position where he is now regarded as a good Championship performer in his late 20s.
Now, maybe I’m wide of the mark here, but I’ve spent nearly all of this season thinking that mentally this is one of the weakest City sides I’ve ever seen and, although I accept you’re always likely to hear things like this when a team is unsuccessful, there are stories beginning to emerge of a pretty toxic dressing room.
It seems to me that, although there was a tendency to look down our noses at players like Adams and Brown while they were here, they’re both exactly the kind of players we needed more of this season - too many heads dropped too quickly with us all season and it seems pretty obvious that Adams and Brown have been complete opposites of that for Derby and Oxford.
Remember the "ebou adams nice work if you can get it thread" indicating he had had a dream season as had the fortune of not 1 but 2 serious injuries so he got to kick back and chillax and just pick up his cash while his team mates had to play football?
I've seen some stupid posts and comments on here but that's always been the highlight for me!
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people also were judging Adams on a handful of minutes he played at a much higher level than he had previously, after basically missing a year of football.
even then he was making 2 or 3 times as many tackles as any of our other midfielders in the limited minutes he had .
I guess the issue was we had too many midfielders, and we could get some cash for Adams , and Siopis was meant to be that kind of player for us.
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I wish we had players good enough to get awards from the teams that currently sit 16th 17th and 19th in the championship...... Yeah, i get it, they used to play for us....Lets be honest, it's all a bit desperate.
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Rjk
people also were judging Adams on a handful of minutes he played at a much higher level than he had previously, after basically missing a year of football.
even then he was making 2 or 3 times as many tackles as any of our other midfielders in the limited minutes he had .
I guess the issue was we had too many midfielders, and we could get some cash for Adams , and Siopis was meant to be that kind of player for us.
Adams could still end up getting relegated with Derby. Lets see who comes in for him, that will be the measure, same for our players as well.
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Tuerto
Adams could still end up getting relegated with Derby. Lets see who comes in for him, that will be the measure, same for our players as well.
And we were comfortably above derby not long ago and for quite a while. Was he shit then?
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Father Dougal
And we were comfortably above derby not long ago and for quite a while. Was he shit then?
Sounds like he's had a good season, although none of us have seen him perform, and Perry NG was out 'Star' performer the last two seasons, so that should tell us something. I can't even remember what Adams looks like, never mind how he plays. But from what i have read, which isn't much, he's a defensive midfielder, so he would have been pretty busy 'Stopping' players this season. Fair play to him for getting six goals, he must be allowed off the leash in order to make those late runs. Lets see how good other clubs think he is with offers this summer, that's the meaure of a good player in a struggling side, same for ours as well...
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Tuerto
Sounds like he's had a good season, although none of us have seen him perform, and Perry NG was out 'Star' performer the last two seasons, so that should tell us something. I can't even remember what Adams looks like, never mind how he plays. But from what i have read, which isn't much, he's a defensive midfielder, so he would have been pretty busy 'Stopping' players this season. Fair play to him for getting six goals, he must be allowed off the leash in order to make those late runs. Lets see how good other clubs think he is with offers this summer, that's the meaure of a good player in a struggling side, same for ours as well...
he's made the most tackles in the league - 150
twice as many as the nearest Cardiff midfielder.
he's won the most tackles in the league at 99, more than twice the nearest Cardiff midfielder.
he's won the most tackles in the middle and attacking thirds of the pitch of any player.
he has the most blocks in the league at 75
chambers is the highest for Cardiff at 48
he's also in the top 10 for interceptions.
statistically at least he's had a very impressive season for defensive actions.
of course you have to take into account that derby will be defending a lot more than some sides, but even then he's making a lot more tackles than most players from those teams.
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Rjk
he's made the most tackles in the league - 150
twice as many as the nearest Cardiff midfielder.
he's won the most tackles in the league at 99, more than twice the nearest Cardiff midfielder.
he's won the most tackles in the middle and attacking thirds of the pitch of any player.
he has the most blocks in the league at 75
chambers is the highest for Cardiff at 48
he's also in the top 10 for interceptions.
statistically at least he's had a very impressive season for defensive actions.
of course you have to take into account that derby will be defending a lot more than some sides, but even then he's making a lot more tackles than most players from those teams.
I’m not saying Brentford would want to sign Adams, but, given the successful way they go about their business, those are figures that would definitely get their interest if they were still in the Championship and looking for a defensive midfielder.
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Me too.
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Rjk
he's made the most tackles in the league - 150
twice as many as the nearest Cardiff midfielder.
he's won the most tackles in the league at 99, more than twice the nearest Cardiff midfielder.
he's won the most tackles in the middle and attacking thirds of the pitch of any player.
he has the most blocks in the league at 75
chambers is the highest for Cardiff at 48
he's also in the top 10 for interceptions.
statistically at least he's had a very impressive season for defensive actions.
of course you have to take into account that derby will be defending a lot more than some sides, but even then he's making a lot more tackles than most players from those teams.
6 goals also?
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
he's made the most tackles in the league - 150
twice as many as the nearest Cardiff midfielder.
he's won the most tackles in the league at 99, more than twice the nearest Cardiff midfielder.
he's won the most tackles in the middle and attacking thirds of the pitch of any player.
he has the most blocks in the league at 75
chambers is the highest for Cardiff at 48
he's also in the top 10 for interceptions.
statistically at least he's had a very impressive season for defensive actions.
of course you have to take into account that derby will be defending a lot more than some sides, but even then he's making a lot more tackles than most players from those teams.
It would be interesting to see what Robbie savages' stats were like when he was in the premier league. I'm not criticising Adams, i don't care enough really, but the wider point i'm making is that he's just stopping the opposition, a fine attribute, and i know that someone has to do it, although there are different ways of doing it. I know that he's scored six goals, so he's obviously given license to get forward, but what does he create, because that's by far the hardest thing for any footballer, being creative. Stopping the opposition, reacting to other players is quite easy, especially with the game in front of you.
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Tuerto
It would be interesting to see what Robbie savages' stats were like when he was in the premier league. I'm not criticising Adams, i don't care enough really, but the wider point i'm making is that he's just stopping the opposition, a fine attribute, and i know that someone has to do it, although there are different ways of doing it. I know that he's scored six goals, so he's obviously given license to get forward, but what does he create, because that's by far the hardest thing for any footballer, being creative. Stopping the opposition, reacting to other players is quite easy, especially with the game in front of you.
He created Derby’s goal down here by running thirty yards with the ball from halfway - we haven’t got players who make runs like that.
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the other bob wilson
He created Derby’s goal down here by running thirty yards with the ball from halfway - we haven’t got players who make runs like that.
Yes, i know, because our players are garbage. Interestingly enough, why was he allowed to run thirty yards with the ball? Good luck to Adams, i hope he gets a good move and makes some money out it, but we all know that if had been with us with the way we set up and the players around him, he'd have been crap.
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Tuerto
It would be interesting to see what Robbie savages' stats were like when he was in the premier league. I'm not criticising Adams, i don't care enough really, but the wider point i'm making is that he's just stopping the opposition, a fine attribute, and i know that someone has to do it, although there are different ways of doing it. I know that he's scored six goals, so he's obviously given license to get forward, but what does he create, because that's by far the hardest thing for any footballer, being creative. Stopping the opposition, reacting to other players is quite easy, especially with the game in front of you.
Something we've not done anywhere near enough in the last two seasons, maybe more.
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PontBlue
Something we've not done anywhere near enough in the last two seasons, maybe more.
Fair enough, it's not what i like to see really, it's not a brand of football that i want to see, but that's just my personal choice. :thumbup:
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Tuerto
Adams could still end up getting relegated with Derby. Let’s see who comes in for him, that will be the measure, same for our players as well.
It’s no measure. He’s already at a big club. If Derby stay up it’s unlikely anyone will come in for him.
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The Lone Gunman
It’s no measure. He’s already at a big club. If Derby stay up it’s unlikely anyone will come in for him.
They may be a decent sized club, but they're not very good. jf a player performs well, other clubs take notice, usually better clubs, or those with higher aspirations. How else do we measure a players progress?
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Tuerto
They may be a decent sized club, but they're not very good. jf a player performs well, other clubs take notice, usually better clubs, or those with higher aspirations. How else do we measure a players progress?
Ebou Adams is 29. He was in League Two in 2022. He’s just had a very good season in the Championship. What progress are we measuring?
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The Lone Gunman
Ebou Adams is 29. He was in League Two in 2022. He’s just had a very good season in the Championship. What progress are we measuring?
The progress that usually occurs when a player is wanted by a better club for more money, because they see him as as an asset. And it usually happens to good players. If he's been really good then there's a good chance other clubs will want him. That progress.
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Tuerto
The progress that usually occurs when a player is wanted by a better club for more money, because they see him as as an asset. And it usually happens to good players. If he's been really good then there's a good chance other clubs will want him. That progress.
I’m really not sure what your angle is with this. I don’t think anyone believes Adams is a top player with the potential to go to a higher level or anything daft like that. Not even the Derby fans. He’s just a very hardworking individual with a good attitude who has had a decent season in the Championship on a personal level.
The fact that he was deemed to be not good enough for Cardiff City by our management is ironic in retrospect, especially as our midfield has been so feeble this season.