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I'd say Ramseys post match interview suggested he is interested in taking the job.
I don't think he will be the appointment but after that interview I think it looks more of a possibility than earlier in the week when making the carry on playing comments.
Trying to 2nd guess what our clowns will do though is pointless.
I've said I hope he gets it. I'm not sure how much that is down to who these idiots are capable of appointing instead and I'm really fearful they listen to the Trust and put in some L1 experienced manager.
The lightweight nature of our 1st team squad which you referred to - both physically and mentally, is going to hinder any faint hopes of a quick return to the Championship. The 3 promoted clubs, Portsmouth, Oxford, Derby are all physically stronger, quicker, and more resilient than our lot, and all three have actually acclimatised to Championship football as the season entered its last couple of months. Any thoughts that League 1 might be an easier gig are in my opinion, misplaced.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
We can sign physically strong quicker players to resolve that.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
I think Alnwick will be ok. But I'd say we need a completely new spine right through the side. CBs , midfield and a physical striker.
I do like the look of Lawlor. Maybe he can nail down 1 cb position.
Yes, I saw Ramsey’s interview after I’d written the piece and was going to say I might have been wrong about him when I wrote another one I plan doing in midweek - whatever he decides, I can’t see him becoming a player/manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
No I don't think he can be player manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
However I think he's being unrealistic thinking he can play next season and make the world cup.
However with our luck he will end up at Wrexham play 40 games win player of the year and help them to the play offs.🤣
You’re right to mention the mentality of the squad, I’d rate getting it right as more important than any attempt to add to our physicality - I say that mind and then I remember Norwich’s fourth goal!Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
The players at the club are the reason we are bottom of the Championship, for all the silly talk of this player being premier league quality and this one having great talent.... THEY achieved nothing and we finished bottom - rock bottom.
Ramsey is a top bloke but as a football signing it has been an expensive mistake, his contribution on the pitch has been minimal, and in fact he played in more defeats / draws than wins. But he is a thoroughly nice man and a great player (unfortunately for Arsenal in the main!) - I wish him well but not as player / manager. He has added credibility and dignity over the last 3 games - is he too young / inexperienced to be full time manager. He also seems to want to keep on playing..?
A huge dose of realism is needed, League 1 is full of gnarled hard nosed experienced lower league battlers. Not something many of our fancy dans may relish playing on a wet Tuesday night in Bradford or Bolton.
I can barely think of a game where we matched the opposition for intensity and work rate. I put it down to passive tactics from the managers but who knows. This group just didn’t seem to work hard enough. It doesn’t bode well.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Prophet of Doom
I know I'll get shot down for this but why not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
I think our "youngsters" well the players we produce ourselves are too soft. I couldn't care less what results they get at under 18.
Davies Ashford colwill all of them really. They all kind of look ok in their own ways but they look like kids even in their 20s not men.
I remember ledley gunter Collins Jerome coming in as teenagers, even ralls actually, and they all seemed to have an extra fight in them we haven't seen for a long long time.
Of course the seniors are awful also and it's not the youngsters fault but for me the players we have produced do not add what we need.
"Best of the subs though was Rubin Colwill who replaced Joe Ralls at half time, in fact I thought he was superb."
You obviously had your rose-tinted Rubin specs on once more, Paul. Colwill played reasonably well during the second half of a dead rubber against a mediocre mid-table team who were already 3-0 up and happy to give him plenty of space, but superb? Do me favour. If that level of performance can be regarded as superb, it's no wonder we finished bottom of the league.
As for Ramsey, I'll be seriously pissed off if he is given the manager's job or remains at the club in any capacity next season. His signing was all very cosy and romantic, but it's proved a big, costly mistake. He needs to go and go now. Maybe he can return one day when he's retired from playing (which should have happened last summer) and when he has some genuine coaching or managerial experience under his belt, but the last thing we need right now is yet another rookie manager.
Cardiff City need one key thing that has been lacking for years: stability.
We cannot afford to experiment with eager, but completely inexperienced managers.
We cannot send the kids out there without some experienced heads alongside them.
The right blend could make this an exciting reboot for Cardiff City. The wrong one could see that downward spiral continue.
These decisions require the right footballing infrastructure at the club to create the vision, develop the plan and carry out that plan without chopping/changing at the whim of the owner.
Our so-called 'press' was virtually non-existent throughout the season. Compared with how quickly the opposition would close us down the minute we got the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
I used to feel embarrassed watching Etete, single-handedly running from one side of the pitch to the other in a half hearted attempt. It was pathetic coaching and equally pathetic desire from the players to put in the effort to get the ball back.
We have a lot of weak-minded players, who quite simply have no stomach for a scrap and are bone idle.
And Etete will be back next season, having been awarded a new two-year contract in January.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
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TOBW answered his own question re colwill. He said he was left scratching his head how colwill remained a bit part player in the key games after watching how he performed yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Well it's quite simple- yesterday he had all the time and space in the world to do what he wanted. In the key games he doesn't and if he doesn't have huge amounts of time and space then he is about as ineffective a player as you can get.
That's not to say he might not be OK in league 1 though! Could well have a few man of the match performances next season.
The very fact that there's even a modest amount of speculation that Ramsey could carry on playing for us next season or (God forbid) that he might be manager, shows how far the stature of our club has fallen.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
As you say, Ramsey needs to go now.
I return to the assessment of Colwill I made earlier this year:
He’s the really skilled lad at school who loves to show off. He hasn’t adapted well to playing as part of a team.
Either he is being greedy or he genuinely feels he needs to do clever things because we’re losing and desperate for a goal.
The net result is a player over-playing and falling around, rather than doing simple things well.
His performance versus Villa was excellent. Maybe that sort of role is worth exploring further?
Let’s not continually bash Colwill when the whole team has been diabolical but I had exactly the same opinions as you but felt he has toned back his over-playing this season compared to previousQuote:
Originally Posted by Crisp White Lines
I hope it’s not seen as “bashing”Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
I want him to do well and praised his Villa performance.
He needs a good manager to sit him down and discuss how he plays and can improve.
The old heads in the current squad have simply been shit.
No, I watched the game with no preconceived ideas about him. You don’t say anything about the bit where I mention the question where was this from him when we really needed it and say it’s not unreasonable to ask that. What I actually said was he was superb with a very big but though.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I know, but he wasn't superb or anything even close to superb. That's my issue. Not the fact that you said he was superb with caveats, but the fact that you said he was superb at all. Colwill is an attacking midfielder who had the freedom of the park during the second half of a dead rubber. Goals 0, assists 0 against a mediocre team that wasn't really trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
If anyone regarded Colwill's performance yesterday as superb, then it just goes to show how low expectations have become. He did alright but did absolutely nothing special. Superb he was not.
Firstly, thank you for your reports again this season Bob. It's always good to read your opinions on the games alongside the factual elements. I actually enjoyed the second half after worrying we would get stuffed after the sending off. I thought the change of shape by Ramsey was a positive and displayed what a decent coach can do when the situation changes drastically during a game. Bagan and Lawlor did well preventing Norwich's attacks on the ground, their 4th came from experience and strength of the centre half. Salech deserved his goals, especially after his hard work to win the penalty. If we'd had him rather than Kanga to start the season, we may just have survived. If we can add some strength and experience to the quality of the young players coming through, I'm hopeful of a more positive season in 25/26.
Common theme when Colwill looks good is space and time. Stoke, Villa, Southampton, Plymouth at Home, Norwich, in four of those games the opposition were around 60% interested, and the games were incredibly open. There's not much to understand with this one. He'll be a league 1 player next season, and so will most of the other players, the majority of them are on the slide as players, The last 2 years is enough evidence to show that. These players owe us, and I can't understand why we're still debating their ability, haven't we seen enough? League 1, over to them to turn it around.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Since Colwill made his debut 4 years ago he's played under 8 managers (if you include interims), with different philosophies and styles but a similar lack of success. He's been played out of position, left on the bench and publicly criticised by managers and supporters. His injury niggles for a couple of seasons haven't helped either.
There's no evidence of decent coaching or player development at the club outside of the academy. Players who look good elsewhere are often poor when they come to us, and players who've looked mediocre at best with us have done better elsewhere.
We've seen glimpses of his ability but he's not progressed to become the player he should have done by now.
In other words, in hindsight I think he'd have been much better off leaving the club when he left the academy. I reckon he needs a fresh start and that we'd see him start to develop into the player many of us think he could be at another club. Now could be the time to go, as League One football is going to suit him even less.
So you'll be seriously pissed off if he's coaching the under 9s? Feels a bit strongQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Colwill is the new Jason Fowler, there's bags of ability there somewhere, shame we only see it briefly and in small spurts. I agree though, I think he'd be better off leaving, I think he needs to be given more responsibility and that can only come playing week in week out. Maybe you then you might see more consistent performances from him
Remember when Frank burrows played jason fowler as sweeper when the sweeper system was a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pug
Maybe colwill should play sweeper? :hide:
You know what he means 😂 Ramsey does need to go though, it's all a bit embarrassing now. The management thing isn't on him, although he shouldn't be anywhere near being considered for the job, and he can't play anymore, and that's on him, he needs to stop. Even Joe Allen has had a word with himself this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Colwill is similar to the Brexit debate. You are either all in or all out, and nothing, even time, adjusts your opinion.
8 "philosophies" in 5 years is insane, ranging from a defensive straitjacket of Bulut to Riza's express yourself in the same season.
We can all see the talent, and so will loads of scouts at good clubs; we are just not getting an earth-shattering fee.
He hasn't pace to lose, so he has 10 years ahead of him. He needs to be deeper but with a license to roam. That's not a free pass; it's the toughest job on the team. The new manager needs to know what he wants to do, see if he fits, and not shoehorn him in.
I think we'd get a million if we let it be known that he is available
That first line re like brexit is bizarre. Have you actually read this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by llan bluebird
I'm saying and others are if he has time and space etc he can be really good. He will be good in league one and I look forward to him getting many MOTM displays.
I'm also saying if closed down and versus an effective defence and midfield then he isn't good enough. In the Championship even though it's not great quality most sides are able to scrap and organise.
I'm not sure if that makes me for or against him?
He's flawed. Under Riza we would start on the front foot, Colwill and others would look half decent for 20 minutes or so without creating anything, the opposition would get a grip on things and that would be that, Colwill and the rest of them would continue to do the same things that weren't working and fail, that's not me saying it, the evidence in there for all of us to see, it's in black and white, and I include all players, not just Colwill. So, decent for the first 20 and sometimes decent in the final 20 when he had come on as sub, because the game had changed and we were looking for a goal, opposition sit in, more space, more possession, still nothing, week after week after week, that's all of them, although I suppose Salech has a free pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
So there's a theme, and the theme is that once the opposition understands what we are doing and that our players are limited, can't adapt and hysterically keep doing the same things that fail them collectively, then it's pretty much game over, and it was....
I'd say ralls is better than that. More his chronic lack of fitness but he's a better player than you describe there. Ramsey obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
The rest of them? Yep totally agree.
And Tan wonders why he loses millions every year……this is a classic example and you can times it by 10Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Colwill has undoubtedly been overhyped and had too much expectations thrust upon him, but I think there is a player there who is still growing and has still not hit his prime. Getting rid would be too presumptuous, and it's not like he's eating a massive wage bill, nor will we get that much for him at the moment. He's someone who will benefit a lot playing League One, maybe alongside his brother. Next season I think will be the big deciding factor for Colwill, he's been surrounded by shit in a tough league this season, but against easier opposition, has a chance to gain confidence and ability. If he's still in the same position as he is this season, then I'd say it's probably time to move on.
Ralls was a better player, but I think he's finished now, his legs have gone and he's so injury prone, same with Ramsey. I can't see any reason to keep either of them, although is Ralls still under contract? Ralls could be that player with the experience needed at league 1 level, but you know what, I'd shift him if he's out of contract, he'll be on a decent scree, even if there's a clause for a pay cut. Ramsey just needs to retire and concentrate on his Booze business....Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
He'll have lot's of customers if the club carries on from where they left off this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Ralls' contract is up I believeQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
The "pay as you play" deals don't exist, but if Ramsey is here next season then he should only be given the lowest basic salary possible
I hope that he leaves, personally, I don't think it's dignified to see such a good player attempting to hold on to something that is gone, and as a fan, it's not nice to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
It is staggering that there is someone in the Club who has watched Etete for the best part of 18 months at City and came up with this decision. Presumably the same person[s] who recruited El Gazi, Daland, Guotas .....................Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
The point I was making is that there are two distinct camps, and neither will have what the other camp says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Our wider group meets up in the Grange after a game every four or five weeks, and the main conversation inevitably is Colwill.
I am in the he is only just 23 in a body that only stopped growing with a vision not seen since Whitts and Tomlin, his execution isn't where it needs to be, but he is still young. He is not 10 or even a forward, but you go think so because of the touch, dribbling and vision. He has been used centre forward !!!! I think he is an 8 at the top of a double pivot, but in a team that should be on the front foot, rather than the backs to the wall CCFC of the last four seasons.
Half my mates think he is a slow, lazy, over hyped show pony that offers nothing, and they'd give him away for free. We'll disagree on every point for hours, and it's been like that for two seasons, neither group give an inch.
I can't think of a player thats split the fans as much as Colwill since Whitts.