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Might be meaningless of course https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cp8d3q80e54o
Good news. I wouldn't want to see the break up of that squad.........Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Cardiff City are under no financial pressure to sell players following their relegation, but will reduce the size of their squad in League One, says chairman Mehmet Dalman.
As they prepare to play in the third tier for the first time since 2003, the Bluebirds are looking for a ninth manager in four years after a turbulent campaign in which they finished bottom of the Championship.
Dalman is confident Cardiff will keep the "core" of their team together but anticipates that several players out of contract this summer will leave.
Forward Yakou Meite and centre-back Dimitrios Goutas are among those with deals expiring who will be expected to depart, while Wales captain Aaron Ramsey has yet to decide on his future having been caretaker manager for the final three games of the season.
"We have 33 players on our books and that's quite a lot. I think that needs to be cut back to more like 25 or 26," said Dalman.
"Out of the eight who are out of contract, we would probably lose six, maybe five. There may be a couple that we still want to have conversations with. That will bring us to a sensible number.
"We probably need to add three or four players into the team. And don't forget we've got some of the brightest, most promising youngsters coming through the academy."
Club captain Joe Ralls, Anwar El Ghazi, Andy Rinomhota and Jamilu Collins are the other senior players out of contract.
Left-back Collins is certain to leave, while former Aston Villa winger El Ghazi is unlikely to stay in League One.
Cardiff will hold talks with midfielder Ralls, their longest serving player, and they will be keen to keep Rinomhota after he impressed in defence and midfield during the last campaign.
Top scorer Callum Robinson signed a new deal in January but, as a Republic of Ireland international with Premier League experience, the 30-year-old is bound to attract offers from other clubs.
Cardiff are also bracing themselves for interest in striker Yousef Salech, who scored nine goals in all competitions following his January move from Swedish side Sirius.
However, when he was asked if the financial impact of relegation meant the Bluebirds would have to sell their leading players, Dalman said: "That's not in our plans. We will sell players if somebody comes up with an attractive offer.
"We would consider it, but that's true of every season at any given time. That is nothing to do with our circumstances.
"We are very determined to keep the core of the team together, and the feedback we are getting from the core of the team is to stay together. I'm sure there'll be a few who will not fancy staying in League One. We will respect that, although we will expect them to respect their contracts as well."
Dalman revealed this week that Cardiff would be trialling a new process to find their next manager, by assembling a sub-committee – featuring former Swansea City sporting director Mark Allen and a member of the Wasserman agency – to compile a shortlist.
Some have tipped Ramsey to take the role on a full-time basis after his temporary spell in charge but, with the 34-year-old midfielder keen to keep playing, his future remains uncertain.
"Aaron is a wonderful chap. I got to know him quite well over the last couple of years and we will sit down with Aaron and have a chat," said Dalman.
"Aaron is through and through Cardiff and, whatever we discuss, it'll be good for Cardiff and it'll be good for Aaron."
Pretty good article, and a bit of refreshing news. Dalman is a yes man, but I'll give him credit that he cares and takes more initiative than Tan, and has a better mind for football.
The article makes it sound like we'll be releasing Ramsey outright, but we shall see.
Relatively speaking, maybe.....and I mean maybe . Regardless, he still should be nowhere near the selection process for the new manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote
From what I can tell, he is the public face of Tan and little more.
Let's be honest best players is a relative term also. I wouldn't say we have best players per se, it's more a case of slightly less shit players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
"Cardiff won't be able to sell their best players" would be more accurate. No club is likely to pay for any of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pug
I've mentioned it before, but I would assume that any of our experienced and expensive flops would surely have to accept a good sized pay cut if they considered themselves to be above League One (which on the season just finished's evidence, they're not) and wanted to remain in the Championship.
that's clearly not trueQuote:
Originally Posted by bobh
Tiz interesting that Transfermarkt have the current value of our squad at roughly £31m.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
With Daland, Ng, Turnbull, Simic & Salech making up rough half of the value.
Transfermarkt is just bollocks, though. Totally meaningless nonsense with figures literally plucked out of thin air.
Morning Dave :hehe: it’s a good match for this site then!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
So Salech is valued at 30m then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
Pretty much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
I’m amazed anyone takes that site seriously. Some of the figures are hilarious. I don’t think Rubin Colwill fans will like it though. According to Transfermarkt, Yakou Meite is more valuable than him. 🤣
Shouldn't the title be "Cardiff don't have to sell their least worst players" ?
Paul, if any of our players have relegation clauses in their contracts then they would get a pay cut whether they like it or not. Of course, that might mean, in some cases, that they might look to leave to at least mitigate their losses. This, of course, assumes the club have been far sighted enough to include such a safeguard unless it is standard practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Have we got any?
Arguing over who is Cardiffs best player is like two balding blokes arguing over who has the better head of hair.
this is just a statement to other clubs that there's no point in trying to lowball us with an offer for Salech
Just public words, the same thing is spouted by many clubs that are relegated,what goes on behind the scenes with the agents is the reality, we don’t know what clauses ( if any) are in players contracts regarding release price and wage reductions in the event of relegation. Bottom line for me, if a player is wanted and he wants to leave,there ain’t much you can do to keep him (Kieffer Moore).
“ Left-back Collins is certain to leave, while former Aston Villa winger El Ghazi is unlikely to stay in League One.”
Thought he’d be right at home in League 1 to be honest
Looking at the individual figures is a load of nonsense as you say but if you aggregate it up to team level - it is a decent proxy to compare against other teams squads in terms of their expected strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I get the sense Dalman does care, so I don't want to throw him as much under the bus as Tan and Choo. But, yes, ideally, we want to be rid of him too, but if a consortium with his involvement took ownership from Tan, I wouldn't lose sleep with Dalman maintaining a role at the club. It's Tan first and foremost that is the problem, and Dalman is part of the problem also. But I can at least give him some credit as compared to the minimal credit I can give the other two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
I think I would beg to differ here. Dalman is a multi millionaire Investment Banker in his own right and has no need to be anyone's public face. I get the impression that he is as frustrated at Tan's intransigence over such things as a DoF as the fanbase is. it is Choo who is the public face of Tan. He is the one with a history of employment with Berjaya. It is Choo who has key positions at CCFC, Kortrijk and HR Owen, all of which are Tan owned. It may be unfashionable not to have a go at Dalman but imho it is Tan who is the obstacle to progress and Choo is Grima Wormtongue to Tan's Saruman. (Apologies for the LOTR analogy but i could not think of another comparison)Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
Who are they then? We have best players?Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Would Ralls really be missed if he leaves? I'm not I'd be too desperate to renew his contract
he could stay and be very important for us, or be injured the entire time - it's a tough call to make, and we don't have a manager to make itQuote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
Given he's one of the few players the fans actually like, I'd keep him :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
These players took the club down, they are the reason we are in the third tier. How any of them bar perhaps Salech can look back on the past 10 months with anything but embarassment is beyond me. Does the club really think there's a huge list of agents lining up down Sloper Road with transfer offers and huge attractive contracts for players?
Good grief as Charlie Brown would say.
there are plenty more players who can look back on the last 12 months without embarrassment.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Prophet of Doom
Callum Robinson achieved his best ever goals tally in the championship, from 34 games.
Will Fish broke into a championship team at the age of 22, ahead of some much more established players, and was one of our "least bad" defenders by the end of the season.
Cian Ashford broke into the first team etc.
just because the season as a whole was a shit show, it doesn't mean there aren't players who can take anything.from it.
I'd also like to add it's a mentality thing rather than a lot of these players being inherently poor-quality. It's the same reason Luton got relegated with us, the mentality was shit, but they had better overall quality than us, which is why they beat us twice.
Some players like Meite and Etete just don't have the quality, but I do think there's an argument that the soldiers need morale to perform to their best capability, and we're just not going to find it in this club at the moment barring huge changes.
We are all entitled to our opinions, but I will stick with mine. Hopefully next season will be better than the last three or four.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
The “least bad” defender in a team that shipped goals for fun. He must be immensely proud with that accolade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
That’s up there with Mikel Arteta winning the self proclaimed best team for 160 minutes in a 2 legged champions league semi final trophy.
I agree with RJK on the players he selected, after that, i'm with you. The majority of the players were/are weak, lacked character and ability. The manager and the coaching staff were never up to the task, but lets not get away from the fact that this group of cowards finished bottom. A better coach may have made a difference, but nothing that would have topped us getting relegated in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Prophet of Doom
I thought that fish improved, not much to hang on to, but an improvement nevertheless. Apparently he broke in to the side at 22...... that speaks volumes over our expectation levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
It is ridiculous, as has been said that somebody is classed a major success for breaking into a struggling Championship side at the age of 22!
Most decent players have played 100+ games by this age!!
There is looking at life through blue tinted spectacles and reality.
I didn't say it was a "major success" just that Fish won't consider this season to be a total embarrassment as someone else had stated. Nor should he.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Prophet of Doom
I don't think most players have over 100 games at the age of 22 either, certainly not centre backs.
No they don't, especially centre backsQuote:
Originally Posted by The Prophet of Doom
Van Dijk had fewer league appearances than Fish does at 22 for instance (no I'm not comparing them before anyone jumps on this)
Bobby Moore was captaining England at 22! And had played over 130 top level games.
Why bring it up then :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
To show that most players don't play 100 games by the time they're 22, I'm obviously not saying Fish is as good as him, but even the best players around hadn't made 100 appearances by 22.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley