Premier League final day

Anyone having a punt?
Some tasty games on the last day in the Premier league. Newcastle,Villa, Man,City, Chelsea and Forest all jostling for places at the top.
I’m gonna do a £20 roll up.
Fancy Villa to compound Man Utd’s miserable season with a win, Newcastle to beat Everton, Man City to win at Fulham. Also think Forest will feel the heat and Chelsea will do them. Even though Chelsea have a conference league final on Weds, I think they’ll play their strongest team today. Also gonna add Leyton Orient for a 5 timer..
Bit of gardening this morning, then sit back this afternoon with a few cold beers and watch the games unfold.
Big ask with my bet, but if you’re not in it you can’t win it.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Anyone having a punt?
Some tasty games on the last day in the Premier league. Newcastle,Villa, Man,City, Chelsea and Forest all jostling for places at the top.
I’m gonna do a £20 roll up.
Fancy Villa to compound Man Utd’s miserable season with a win, Newcastle to beat Everton, Man City to win at Fulham. Also think Forest will feel the heat and Chelsea will do them. Even though Chelsea have a conference league final on Weds, I think they’ll play their strongest team today. Also gonna add Leyton Orient for a 5 timer..
Bit of gardening this morning, then sit back this afternoon with a few cold beers and watch the games unfold.
Big ask with my bet, but if you’re not in it you can’t win it.

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Ah well. My accumulater has gone the way of Sludges love making technique
Over before it got started ☹️

This is so exciting at the moment isn’t it.

How many cynical Chelsea fouls is that now without a card? Baffles me Taylor is considered a top referee

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

This is so exciting at the moment isn’t it.

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According to Sky it's off the scale !

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

According to Sky it's off the scale !

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Yep, this last day battle to finish between fourth and eighth has got me on the edge of my seat - just think of all of that money they’re playing for.

Really looking forward to Walsall v Wimbledon tomorrow.

Look at the scenes at Newcastle - they finished fifth on goal difference :facepalm:

Question from Monkfish and TOBW: why do you watch Premier League football? You grizzle about it relentlessly, yet still watch it. To me, that's very odd.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

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I won for a change. £10 four-fold on Chelsea, Man City, West Ham and Arsenal. It paid £75.60.

Nice to end the season with a winner. I've finished the campaign in arrears - Overall I'm about £70 down I think - but I only play for small stakes these days.

All very boring in the end. Shame Forest missed out.

Title and relegation sewn up weeks ago.

No one can convince me the race to finish 5th is exciting even if multiple clubs are in the running. Only reason sky and co try and make it a big deal is because the league title race is usually dull as dishwasher.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I won for a change. £10 four-fold on Chelsea, Man City, West Ham and Arsenal. It paid £75.60.

Nice to end the season with a winner. I've finished the campaign in arrears - Overall I'm about £70 down I think - but I only play for small stakes these days.

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Glad one of us won. I can’t pick my nose lately.
Not collected for yonks either on my regular bet of more than 1.5 goals in a game. Glad this seasons ended 😁

Could not care less. I'm only here to make the plastics lives a misery. :hehe:

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Could not care less. I'm only here to make the plastics lives a misery. :hehe:

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Don’t think there’s many plastics on here.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Anyone having a punt?
Some tasty games on the last day in the Premier league. Newcastle,Villa, Man,City, Chelsea and Forest all jostling for places at the top.
I’m gonna do a £20 roll up.
Fancy Villa to compound Man Utd’s miserable season with a win, Newcastle to beat Everton, Man City to win at Fulham. Also think Forest will feel the heat and Chelsea will do them. Even though Chelsea have a conference league final on Weds, I think they’ll play their strongest team today. Also gonna add Leyton Orient for a 5 timer..
Bit of gardening this morning, then sit back this afternoon with a few cold beers and watch the games unfold.
Big ask with my bet, but if you’re not in it you can’t win it.

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2 out of 5 wasn't it?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Question from Monkfish and TOBW: why do you watch Premier League football? You grizzle about it relentlessly, yet still watch it. To me, that's very odd.

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I usually watch it because I enjoy it, but I think it’s been a very poor season by the competition’s usual standards this time. Liverpool have won it at a canter, but I don’t see them as an outstanding team when compared with some previous title winners. Arsenal and Man City have gone backwards, as have Villa as evidenced by the English team’s pretty ordinary efforts in the Champions League.

The battle to stay up was, possibly, the most boring in Premier League history and you have to admit that it’s a pretty ordinary competition when the blanket TV coverage has to desperately hype the race for also ran places on the final day of the season because there’s nothing else of note worth mentioning happening.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I usually watch it because I enjoy it, but I think it’s been a very poor season by the competition’s usual standards this time. Liverpool have won it at a canter, but I don’t see them as an outstanding team when compared with some previous title winners. Arsenal and Man City have gone backwards, as have Villa as evidenced by the English team’s pretty ordinary efforts in the Champions League.

The battle to stay up was, possibly, the most boring in Premier League history and you have to admit that it’s a pretty ordinary competition when the blanket TV coverage has to desperately hype the race for also ran places on the final day of the season because there’s nothing else of note worth mentioning happening.

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The Premier League is safety first these days. Barcelona and PSG is where it's at if you want to watch entertaining football.

PS The Barca game starts at 8pm!

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The Premier League is safety first these days. Barcelona and PSG is where it's at if you want to watch entertaining football.

PS The Barca game starts at 8pm!

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I rarely watch Premier league football, might watch Motd a couple of times a season. In my limited opinion, i would say that the technical side of the premier league is less, more emphasis on players being incredible athletes who can run, run and then run again. Good players, but Athletes first in some cases. Although that's from a very limited standpoint.

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I rarely watch Premier league football, might watch Motd a couple of times a season. In my limited opinion, i would say that the technical side of the premier league is less, more emphasis on players being incredible athletes who can run, run and then run again. Good players, but Athletes first in some cases. Although that's from a very limited standpoint.

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Any flair is coached out of them, just look at Grealish, what does he add if can't run at players? Contrast this with players like Raphinha, Yamal, Dembele, Kvaratskhelia and Doue, etc.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Question from Monkfish and TOBW: why do you watch Premier League football? You grizzle about it relentlessly, yet still watch it. To me, that's very odd.

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The wife & I have had a busy morning, walk, coffee, did some gardening and made some fresh pesto ready for this evening's meal. We were going out to the pub at 5pm so after sitting down and reading through the papers there was about 30-40 minutes while the missus got ready - so I turned on to the football - and PL was the only show in town. I doubt I've watched more than 1 whole PL game this season preferring to watch what is nowadays known as EFL. True, the players aren't as talented but the football is less predictable and for me at least, more enjoyable. I also follow my local club having thoroughly enjoyed my 22 home games this season. [! ]....

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

The wife & I have had a busy morning, walk, coffee, did some gardening and made some fresh pesto ready for this evening's meal. We were going out to the pub at 5pm so after sitting down and reading through the papers there was about 30-40 minutes while the missus got ready - so I turned on to the football - and PL was the only show in town. I doubt I've watched more than 1 whole PL game this season preferring to watch what is nowadays known as EFL. True, the players aren't as talented but the football is less predictable and for me at least, more enjoyable. I also follow my local club having thoroughly enjoyed my 22 home games this season. [! ]....

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How did the Pesto turn out?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I usually watch it because I enjoy it, but I think it’s been a very poor season by the competition’s usual standards this time. Liverpool have won it at a canter, but I don’t see them as an outstanding team when compared with some previous title winners. Arsenal and Man City have gone backwards, as have Villa as evidenced by the English team’s pretty ordinary efforts in the Champions League.

The battle to stay up was, possibly, the most boring in Premier League history and you have to admit that it’s a pretty ordinary competition when the blanket TV coverage has to desperately hype the race for also ran places on the final day of the season because there’s nothing else of note worth mentioning happening.

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I've missed the hype you talk about, but then I don't watch the type of programmes that are likely to feature it that often. The minimal coverage I have seen on Sky Sports News in recent weeks has been reasonable enough. Nothing I've seen has been over the top, it's all been fairly balanced.

I didn't see the scenes at Newcastle you were referring to earlier, but I'm guessing they were celebrating gaining a Champions League spot? If so, what's wrong with that?

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

I doubt I've watched more than 1 whole PL game this season preferring to watch what is nowadays known as EFL.

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That's odd then, as you comment on it very regularly. Only last week you were talking about how poor Arsenal's game was and yet you apparently kept going back to it to check on the score.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Question from Monkfish and TOBW: why do you watch Premier League football? You grizzle about it relentlessly, yet still watch it. To me, that's very odd.

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The very same could be asked of you and why you watch Championship football.
After all you constantly grizzle about how poor a standsrd the Championship is :shrug:

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How did the Pesto turn out?

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Very garlicky, thank you.

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That's odd then, as you comment on it very regularly. Only last week you were talking about how poor Arsenal's game was and yet you apparently kept going back to it to check on the score.

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At the end of each episode of a Netflix documentary I did flick over to see what the score was - as you say. That's a world of difference to actually sitting down and watching the game..

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

The very same could be asked of you and why you watch Championship football.
After all you constantly grizzle about how poor a standard the Championship is

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It's a valid criticism. I watched way too much televised Championship football last season. As a rule, the standard was so poor that more often than not I found myself thinking: "why am I watching this rubbish?" But watch it I did.

Of course, there's a significant difference, as many of the games I saw had a direct effect on City's situation and plenty of other matches featured teams City were due to play, so I had a vested interest of sorts. Nevertheless, I definitely watched far too much of it. No doubt about that.

Having said all that, I find a lot of the criticism of the Premier League and its supporters to be shallow. It's inverse snobbery of sorts, and I'm sure a significant part of it stems from the fact that City's efforts when we've got there have been so pathetic.

There's also a degree of what I regard as the football equivalent of virtue signalling when people post stuff like: "Oh, I'm going to try to find a stream on the National League North play-off semi-finals this evening rather than watch Man City's game." That's basically saying: "Look at me, I'm a proper football fan!"

I watched the League One play-off final yesterday - the only League One game I've watched from start to finish this season. It was really poor. Of course, the circumstances probably went some way towards explaining that, play-off finals are rarely classics, but yesterday's was absolute garbage. I didn't watch any of the televised Premier League games, but you can guarantee they would have been a lot more entertaining than the Charlton v Orient final. Nevertheless, there will be plenty of 'proper football fans' who will claim otherwise.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

At the end of each episode of a Netflix documentary I did flick over to see what the score was - as you say. That's a world of difference to actually sitting down and watching the game..

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Indeed. But I'm fairly certain you've commented regularly on the 'boring' football in the Premier League throughout this season and beyond, which tends to suggest you do watch plenty of it.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

It's a valid criticism. I watched way too much televised Championship football last season. As a rule, the standard was so poor that more often than not I found myself thinking: "why am I watching this rubbish?" But watch it I did.

Of course, there's a significant difference, as many of the games I saw had a direct effect on City's situation and plenty of other matches featured teams City were due to play, so I had a vested interest of sorts. Nevertheless, I definitely watched far too much of it. No doubt about that.

Having said all that, I find a lot of the criticism of the Premier League and its supporters to be shallow. It's inverse snobbery of sorts, and I'm sure a significant part of it stems from the fact that City's efforts when we've got there have been so pathetic.

There's also a degree of what I regard as the football equivalent of virtue signalling when people post stuff like: "Oh, I'm going to try to find a stream on the National League North play-off semi-finals this evening rather than watch Man City's game." That's basically saying: "Look at me, I'm a proper football fan!"

I watched the League One play-off final yesterday - the only League One game I've watched from start to finish this season. It was really poor. Of course, the circumstances probably went some way towards explaining that, play-off finals are rarely classics, but yesterday's was absolute garbage. I didn't watch any of the televised Premier League games, but you can guarantee they would have been a lot more entertaining than the Charlton v Orient final. Nevertheless, there will be plenty of 'proper football fans' who will claim otherwise.

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I honestly don't think I watched a single game bar City's. Unless it very directly involves us I have very little interest in sitting down to watch a random Championship game. Or Premier League for that matter. I love watching world cups and Euros, cup finals, and the FA cup generally on the BBC but most football on TV is just background noise. Quite enjoy MOTD2 on Sunday evenings I guess, although it makes me sad as it means the weekend is over haha.

I would far rather watch a non league game live than Liverpool v Arsenal on the TV. I find very little magic in it nowadays

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Having said all that, I find a lot of the criticism of the Premier League and its supporters to be shallow. It's inverse snobbery of sorts, and I'm sure a significant part of it stems from the fact that City's efforts when we've got there have been so pathetic.

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I wouldn't say our last visit to the PL was pathetic, not when you consider we won only two less matches than Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton combined this season.

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

I wouldn't say our last visit to the PL was pathetic, not when you consider we won only two less matches than Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton combined this season.

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Absolutely. After a dreadful start we were actually pretty consistent and easily could have stayed up, especially when you factor in the Sala tragedy

I always look back to that Chelsea home game when we were winning and lost. Who knows how history could have turned out differently. We definitely weren't pathetic that season though.

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Indeed. But I'm fairly certain you've commented regularly on the 'boring' football in the Premier League throughout this season and beyond, which tends to suggest you do watch plenty of it.

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Increasingly over the past 5 or 6 seasons I've watched less and less PL football. There are times - when it's chucking it down and I've been out all day for example - when I'll tune into an evening PL game if it takes my interest and put it on 'hold', ready to scan through the endless tippy tappying around the middle of the pitch until something resembling a bit of goalmouth interest appears. Ironically Sky are now boasting of increasing their PL coverage next season from 128 to a minimum of 215, as the actual viewing figures in the UK continue to fall. I'll be cancelling in November when my package comes up for renewal..

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Absolutely. After a dreadful start we were actually pretty consistent and easily could have stayed up, especially when you factor in the Sala tragedy

I always look back to that Chelsea home game when we were winning and lost. Who knows how history could have turned out differently. We definitely weren't pathetic that season though.

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It was the start that killed us. After those first winless 8 games we won a third of our remaining matches. Just one win in those first 8 and we would have survived. I was in Cyprus watching the televised home game against Burnley. How we never won that game was a mystery.

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

It was the start that killed us. After those first winless 8 games we won a third of our remaining matches. Just one win in those first 8 and we would have survived. I was in Cyprus watching the televised home game against Burnley. How we never won that game was a mystery.

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How so?

We were relegated in 24th place - 5 points and 15 goals worse off than Hull in 21st.

If you are arguing that a win in the first batch of games would have changed the confidence of the squad and manager, and led to better results later in the season, then you may be right (or not) but it really is just wishful thinking.

We had a season of famine, feast, famine and slow/limp decline to dismal failure. It wasn't just about the start.

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How so?

We were relegated in 24th place - 5 points and 15 goals worse off than Hull in 21st.

If you are arguing that a win in the first batch of games would have changed the confidence of the squad and manager, and led to better results later in the season, then you may be right (or not) but it really is just wishful thinking.

We had a season of famine, feast, famine and slow/limp decline to dismal failure. It wasn't just about the start.

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Think he’s talking about our second season in the Premier League.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Think he’s talking about our second season in the Premier League.

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Ah yes. Apologies Moody. I should have read what you were replying to more carefully. FWIW I agree about that season.

I watch the PL whenever I can. I watch all of our games and whatever's on before or after. I've also watched as many playoff games as I could. What's wrong with the PL? Why does it have to be exciting? It's football played at a very high level. Football is as exciting as you want it to be. I'm watching the League Two playoff final right now and I want Wimbledon to win, so there's some excitement there. Will I care if they lose? Absolutely not. But it's still interesting. Our games were shit all season long, but due to our predicament, about as as exciting as it gets. When did people start to get so picky about what kind of football they like?

How many games are we ‘guaranteed’ to have televised live next season under this Sky deal? I know it was around 25 in the championship but I’m assuming it’s less in League 1.