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with Joe Ralls out of the equation and looking at the current pool of players we have at our disposal
For me we haven't got a natural leader in the pack so anyone of the following maybe a candidate
Alnwick
Chambers
O Dowda
Fish
Out of the above I think i would opt for O Dowda
who would your captain be for the coming season ?
Bale, obviously :hehe:
Alnwick or O’Dowda. No one else makes sense.
No one candidate stands out so think it'll be someone we sign.
Good discussion on lack of proper captains these days on TalkSPORT last week. Gone are the days of the vocal, inspirational leaders. Your Keanes, Terrys, Gerrards, Adams.etc are a thing of the past.
Anyone seen calling out their team mates on the pitch like they used to is classed as aggressive, in a negative way, in today’s football world.
With coaches micro managing every little detail on the pitch from their technical area, there is less need for the managers voice on the pitch these days.
I don’t think it’s as important a role as it used to be.
None of those mentioned above. They're not strong enough personalities, and quite frankly, too quiet on the pitch.
We need a new incoming captain, whoever that might be.
I couldnÂ’t disagree more. Maybe IÂ’m just being nostalgic and you may be right but I loved a commanding midfielder.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I think a leader on the pitch will be more needed than ever, itÂ’s just taking time for clubs to take to new processes.
Clearly missed the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Furthermore, the game has changed and the commanding midfielder can’t go flying into tackles and setting the tone, geeing up the rest of the troops like they used. Like a Bryan Robson, Roy Keane, Steven Gerrard. I’ll lead, you follow types. Those days are gone.
Something else they touched on in the debate was the game was less physical and so those aggressive, alpha male type captains who led the team into battle are no more.
Football is far more technical and tactical these days.
It's hard to captain in the first season when you're new in the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
A centre midfielder can’t grab the game by the “scruff of the neck” anymore. Slam into a tackle, maybe take a yellow to get the crowd up, drive forward with the ball and draw the opposition to slam into you. Those days are gone. Football has evolved. Often for the better but in terms of inspirational captains and leaders it is certainly now poorer.
Ng, he can give himself a bollocking when he gets booked then :hehe:
We haven’t signed him yet.
assuming we sign anyoneQuote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
Lockyer.
Really? The guy is another heart attack away from the morgue. For his own sake and his family’s sake he needs to retire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pontprennau Bluebird
I remember Beckhams nauseating public resignation as England captain.
Always thought the manager was meant to choose the captain.
If he stays its probably going to be O Dowda.
Nobody currently at the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Christian ?Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Yep, Catholic :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
its a shame how no one springs to mind now ralls has gone... would he have gone if the bale thing had happened already ? ralls obviously not going to take the huge cut in wage, which is a shame, its the players who got us down id have prefered ralls stay and help us get back up, financially hes going to do what he has to do... lots of other clubs will pay more
but yeah laugh at ng but if you want passion and commitment i think ng fits
NG is not a leader, he's a shithouseQuote:
Originally Posted by bluemoon
Ng's no leader, his antics are embarrassing enough as it is, never mind if he were captainQuote:
Originally Posted by bluemoon
I think you're right, that kind of player has gone. The closest we have to that kind of player is Robertson but he's more petulant than commanding and he definitely doesn't strike me as the inspirational typeQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Of the current crop I can see it going to O'Dowda or Alnwick, possibly Chambers on seniority. Bleak.
Reckon it might be Colwill (R)
Will make or break him
He has a Cardiac Arrest and has had an Implantable cardiovascular device (defibrillator) fitted which will keep his heart going. He can play football with this in place if his doctors approve.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
A Cardiac Arrest is not a heart attack.
I don’t get this club captain for the season thing….
Years ago it was the the most suitable person from the starting 11
A sign of the times, perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Porth Pouncer
Let's take Joe Dwyer, for example. He was the captain and was always nailed on to be in the starting eleven. Why, because he seldom got injured.
Ankle ligament damage can keep a player out for months these days - In Dwyer's day, it was called a sprained ankle :hehe:
I can remember a game where Don Murray could hardly walk, let alone run, but Jimmy Scoular, told him to stand on the half way line, just to annoy the other teamQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
Graham Vernacombe (goalkeeper for you young ones) arm in a sling stuck out on the right wing!Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Semantics. He was literally dead for nearly 3 minutes. Also, should he return with his new bionic device, he hasn’t played for 18 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
Is that the game where one of our lads had his leg broken, so they put him in goals?Quote:
Originally Posted by lincoln blue
Didn't Ryan Wintle captain us on occasion previously.
First of all it needs to be someone who is a guaranteed starter, and we don't have many/any of those to start with. I'm not a fan of goalkeepers being captains at club level either.
It'll probably be O'Dowda from the current squad, at least for the time being (or unless he leaves), but I'd be happier with him not at left-back.
There is a serious lack of leadership in this squad that will need to be addressed sharpish.
I’m not so sure about that…Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I could be wrong, but didn’t Mark Hudson come in as Captain?
At the moment, I would say, it would have to be Calum Chambers !
More experienced than others in the pack
Not inspired by this though
[QUOTE=Wales-Bales;5597244]Is that the game where one of our lads had his leg broken, so they put him in goals?[/QUO
That's the one 😂
I like the rugby way and pick your biggest player, so Salech.
In all seriousness, i would pick Salech. He feels like a leader.
Is that the season that Ledley was pissing about with his contract? It's quite rare for a new player to be appointed captain at the start of their first season, and even more so in the modern era with the addition more off-field commitments. Ideally you want somebody who already knows the club, the players, and all the staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfSiamIAm
Hopefully hes nowhere near the starting line up let alone captain.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Like I say, IÂ’m not 100% sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
However I think most can agree that Hudson was a leader, in both strength of character and by example.
He came in fully fledged with that experience already in place, and I personally think we need something approaching that this season.