According to ***** Abraham board all will be revealed at 7pm tonight FINGERS CROSSED
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According to ***** Abraham board all will be revealed at 7pm tonight FINGERS CROSSED
Think it's just ***** going on a podcast at that time. I'd imagine it's his version of what Cardiff city world did yesterday.
He just saw the viewership that Si from Cardiff City World was getting and he wants a piece of it. It will be a combination of extremely vague statements and complete utter bullshit.
Is it an opportunity for them to blame Tan if no "deal" goes through saying he U-turned etc which then ramps up the need for marches and protests which keeps the agenda live and the spotlight on them as fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
I assume the more views etc they get of podcasts message boards the more income it generates - is that how it works?
The one I don't understand is surely if these claims of a deal being imminent are false then surely that news has reached the bidders and they would want to distance themselves from it?
I’ll summarise, everything is Tan’s fault and if you don’t believe that you’re a Tan lover.
He will finally spill the beans on Langston and why Hammam tried to shut down “ the club that he loves “.
I won't hold my breath
Any updates on the big reveals?
(I don't mean Gluey's nudist fantasies! :hehe:)
Utter shite as normal
Tonght matthew I,m going to be Sam Hammam
It’s 7.45Quote:
Originally Posted by Pembroke blue
Still waiting, not.
You missed it. Was an exclusive interview on YouTubeQuote:
Originally Posted by BLUEAWAY TOO
Got a horrible feeling something not right, His he going to announce next that Tan as pulled out of the deal that really never was
Christ no offence but he's morphing into Hammam..:sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by dandywarhol
Just watched the video again. This was a very poor show, nothing of nothing. I do hope I'm wrong but if I was one of is followers,the ones who believe everything that he spouts out, I would start getting a bit concerned
Hammam will be absolutely devastated to read this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebird Of Happiness
I just had a quick glance at the video and that was enough for me to doubt very much everything that ***** was claiming. He may believe what he claims but I honestly think someone in the background is leading him on by giving him false information.Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne
The claim that a consortium is very close to concluding a deal is denied by all of the club directors who say Vincent Tan has also said this is not true.
The claim that the interested party has got clearance for a deal from the EFL. Speaking to an EFL director they haven`t even received an approach from anyone interested in acquiring the club let alone approved them as suitable.
The claim that the interested party has met with the FAW. I haven`t spoken to Neil Mooney, but others at a very senior level there say they have no knowledge of this.
The claim that an interested party has had a meeting with Cardiff Council is not supported by senior people there who say they have no knowledge of this.
The claim that the interested party flew out to Monaco to meet Mehmet Dalman. I have spoken to him personally and he says that this simply didn`t happen.
But apart from that…Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
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Originally Posted by Ninian1962
I think you will find that Steve Borley has been incredibly supportive towards any perspective consortium interest in the football club and I have been reliably informed that some of the points you mentioned as false are in fact true.
Just to clarify, I am certainly not in the know but know a few people who have been doing their own work behind the scenes, one of whom is a high profile City fan.
Well that's stone cold water poured over that ray of hopeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
“BOSS”, can you change the heading too “7pm yesterday please :hehe:
So its all a load of bollox.!!!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
FFS!!!!!
I want to believe the talk about a takeover, but since writing a supportive blog story about it on Saturday, I've become less upbeat about the whole thing. Keith's post above only makes that feeling become a bit stronger. I know and like Keith and am 99.99 per cent sure that he's not lying in that message and, leading on from that, you have to ask if the people Keith talked to were lying to him, to what end were they doing it? What do they have to gain by giving him false information?
I've just watched the video from last night and what becomes clear is that the version of events put out by those who are adamant that the takeover is well on track to completion appears to be coming from the same source as their stories are so similar. Again you wonder what some one would have to gain from putting out stories that they know to be wrong. However, if you look at it from a perspective of which of the two sides is more likely to have an agenda here, it seems more likely to me that someone would want to undermine and turn fans against Vincent Tan by heavily hinting that he is the one stopping a takeover being completed than it is the likes of the FAW, local councils, the EFL and the City hierarchy all denying contact with a consortium when they all knew that there had been.
What is clear is that Gareth Bale has talked about two bids being made by a consortium that he is involved with, but it's now getting discredited by those telling us about the "South African" bid as they say the amounts offered were derisory (an approach matched by the club to a large degree who have given the distnct impression that the Bale consortium ix not being taken seriously).
What we've got currently is two sides that apear to want to do their public speaking through selected individuals - supporters, some of whom have a high media profile with the South African consortium and a media outlet and, to a small extent, the Supporters' Trust with the club. What's needed is for one, or both, of the parties to come clean on what's happening, but is that likely to happen? I very much doubt it.
All he's doing on that forum is building it up to all be Tans fault. this 'deal' probably isn't even taking off. so when 'it all falls apart' he and the other mods can push the marches and protests with fans to get him out.
The only opinion that matters on there is that you hate Tan and want him out.
IMHO if there were serious expressions of interest from a number of potential bidders it would very much be in Vincent Tan's interest to put that in the public domain to help him extract the best price possible if he wants to exit.
As it is the information from Vincent Tan, the club and it's senior executives suggest such interest simply does not exist at this time.
It's just the bollocks peddled out by the same people that have no in anymore that gets me.
No-one is doubting there is interest from certain parties but the I'm in know and it will all be told at 7pm on a certain day is just ridiculous.
Everything that was mentioned was either vague or made up.
As expected.
I took a quick look over on that forum the other day and noticed they have even made a poster called Trust something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
Can't stand An**s but would actually applaud if this was a ploy to get the fans seriously protesting at the ownership. Unfortunately I think you're giving him far too much credit of coming up with that :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave St
That is pretty much word for word on how I see things Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
What if potential bidders were also in discussions with other clubs and had included a non disclosure agreement with each of them?Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts
If anything, all these rumours and ‘in the know’ statements are more likely to derail any takeover at Cardiff, rather than assist it.
Anyway, apparently the new owners are meeting with fans tomorrow. If anybody has the inside scoop on the venue, could they share it here please? :hehe:
I had a similar thought process about why anyone would push such a strong narrative that a sale is on the cards knowing it's not, and the only thing I could think of was to generate even more dissatisfaction with the current regime, leading to better supported marches and protests. But then I also thought that that's far too Machiavellian for the people making the claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub
So wtf is going on?
I agree, I think it's likely more a case he has heard something but then like everyone else has got a bit too excited and maybe one or two of his sources play on that I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub
One thing he has said for a few days is "it's now all on Tan" as if it isn't always all on Tan. But apparently he now effectively has the pen in his hand and is deciding to just piss us all off.
I don't buy that it's that close sadly and fans are going to be a bit disappointed.
The only thing that doesn't add up for me is the lack of transfer activity, seems very odd for us, yes we have less income but we must have cleared a fair amount from the wage bill already and this squad badly needs at least a couple of additions. This could indicate something is happening beyond just the initial stages.
Who knows? It has certainly been more interesting than our manager search but I just have a bad feeling it's going to be like your parents converting to Jehovas just before Christmas.
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Originally Posted by Jamsarnie
Not sure who they are going to be meeting with. It is certainly not the elected Fans Advisory Board (most voted in direct by season ticket holders) or the other elected fan bodies, being the Supporters Trust board, the Supporters Club committee or the Disabled Supporters Association. No claimed interested party has even made any attempt to contact these groups which seems more than a little strange if they are serious with their bids.
There would be no NDA unless in serious discussions on the details of a bid. This is not relevant to potential bidders or expressions of interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamsarnie
His followers who accepts every word he said , must be by now getting a little concerned and some doubt creeping in. This doesn't smell right. Surely they will not except the BS from their leader if this so called takeover fails,and then him trying to put the blame all on Tan
Si and Abrams are basically saying the same thing — there’s definite interest in a takeover, and it’s a real possibility. But I think some of the more exaggerated stuff might be coming from Dayo or others like him, who are desperate to be the first to break the news. That urgency to be “first” often leads to chasing rumours and treating speculation as fact.
Dayo was saying the interest started when Otto was chatting to Jonny Owen at a Forrest game, when he was discussing buying a team, and Owen recommended Cardiff. I think both have alluded to that at various times.
Reading between the lines, it looks like Gary Otto’s group is genuinely serious and is trying to put together a strong enough offer to convince Tan to sell. As for Tan himself, he’s likely weighing his options:
Sell now, if the offer is fair and he’s not confident in promotion this season.
Or hold on, give BBM a chance to build something, and hope a promotion push boosts the club’s value — potentially leading to a better deal next summer.
If this supposed deal had been ratified by all the necessary parties (EFL, Council, FAW etc) I would suspect there would be more rumour sources / leaks by now.
But the fact is, they have made an offer or are in discussions with Tan and others. We can’t say for certain they haven’t spoken to someone at the Welsh FA or Cardiff Council — maybe it was just informal or off-the-record conversations with people none of us are directly connected to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
I’m not criticising you personally, just making the point that none of us really know the full picture. People can claim things, others can deny them, but the only ones who truly know what’s happened are those directly involved.
You'd be supprised what I know. I know he feeds the Mods information to put out so it looks like they know things. Then once someonething is posted, he comes in with posts like 'yeah i hear that too' . so predictable . mods are *****Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub
Why would interested parties have a pre-meeting with someone at Cardiff Council?