To Rotherham on a season's loan.
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To Rotherham on a season's loan.
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Good luck to him. Never worked out here, whoever gave him a two year contract needs their head checking. Always gave 100% just not the quality we need.
There were odd moments when he was linking up with Rubin and Olly Tanner when he looked (almost) the real deal. But - partly because of injuries - there was no consistency. Then a disastrous loan. Followed by a pre-season where I assume he has trained himself out of BBM's plans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Underhill1980
Maybe he can form a strike partnership with Jordan Hugill, and come back a serious option next summer. But probably not.
I doubt we’ll ever see him in a Cardiff shirt again, unless we get relegated again hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Hugill and Etete together will scare a few defences. I always liked Etete - he did seem to be trying, even if his abilities sometimes fell a little short.
I think that’s him done at Cardiff and I expect he’ll be moved on permanently before the 26-27 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
The good news is, he’s one of the players where his salary would have been included in the financial fair play calculations this season, so hopefully we may finally see some movement on incomings pretty soon.
I like BBM already.
One less to sigh about when seen warming up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
Always gave 100%?!? Was that apart from the many occasions when he was sat on the ground with his arms in the air pretending he'd been fouled while play carried on around him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Underhill1980
Etete very rarely had the stomach for a battle of any kind. His efforts in a City shirt were genuinely embarrassing at times. Shame, as he's a player who has some natural ability, but he's not up to the physical side of the game.
Agreed, he isn't a particularly good player although he's a victim of his body shape as well, lacks strength in the core, couldn't hold the ball up, was bullied easily and has legs that seem to do what they want to do, not what the brain is saying. He's neither a natural striker or wide player, what do you do with a player like him? He's done well to get a hit a Rotherham in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
When we signed him he had an interesting profile in terms of stats - I can't find the details now but from memory he was very high in terms of tackles/blocks etc for a striker, reasonable at dribbling, but had some very obvious weaknesses too - I think most notably shots, touches in the area (and goals).
Might be more useful to a team playing an aggressive high press- but that hasn't been us for the last several years.
Didn't seem to be able to use his physique as an asset, which is a pity.
I don't think he'll ever be prolific, but in the right setup he could be an asset at this level.
Good luck to him
I think his body shape has helped him, doubt he'd be in pro football if he were 5 ft 10. His "profile" will get him moves his talent maybe doesn't deserveQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
EXACTLY this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Underhill1980
He tries hard (the bare minimum surely) but just isn’t good enough. And he has had his chances. So WHY did we give him a two year contract last year?
Just bizarre.
EXACTLY this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Underhill1980
He tries hard (the bare minimum surely) but just isn’t good enough. And he has had his chances. So WHY did we give him a two year contract last year?
Just bizarre.
PS. Sorry, I forgot to add that we probably don’t play to his strengths (fill in nearly any City striker here over the last 10 years)
So, that’s fifteen out and none in with the prospect of a fourth senior goalkeeper coming in later today. Did anyone really think we’d have a summer’s transfer dealings like that going into the first league game of the season? Jeez, we need new owners.
Maybe I feel a bit sorry for him as he looked so out of his depth. I don’t hold the distain for him as I do some of the players that have embarrassed the shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Who knows, although if he was 5ft 10 he'd no doubt have a different shape, his legs would be shorter and he'd probably be stronger and a bit quicker. He may have settled at a level, as it stands he's sinking slowly, so maybe from that point of view you're right, although everyone can see that he's no number 9.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
His Physique was hardly built around strength, not his fault though. There's an old saying that used to go around for footballers, strength required from the nipple's to the knees, basically the core. Etete has none of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I agree - but these are the same owners who signed over 15 first team players under Steve Morison. Those were the days before the act of making a decision became a lost art at the CCS.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
We need at least 3 new outfield players.
We also need BBM to live up to our best hopes and to improve a lot of the players already in the squad - not just the ones just promoted from the Academy.
There are signs of that already - collectively and individually. At least for the top of the pitch. I have been impressed by BBM so far on limited evidence (interviews, training videos and the pre-season games) but he doesn't seem to be too concerned about our chronic defensive weaknesses, and he is working with a very underpowered coaching team. Who is responsible for the defensive work is a mystery - maybe Tom Ramasut is'still in the building'?
The Academy is the bright spot though. If we had brought in Dylan Lawlor, Ronan Kpakio and Tanatswa Nyakuhwa from Premier League u21 squads - and seen YouTube videos of their actual performances - I think most of us would have been buzzing. Because we grew our own they somehow don't count when we talk about the squad changes from last season.
It wasn’t even last year, it was the 31st January THIS year, and a full two weeks AFTER our (currently) most recent signing Yousef Salech!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
The mind boggles as to why we are still employing Head of Recruitment Patrick Deboys. It’s now been SIX and a half months since we signed a player for the first team and several weeks after Barry-Murphy threw Deboys’ player targets dossier in the bin.
Unless Deboys is now directly reporting to BBM and following his guidance, I just don’t see the point in his role.
I don't think it's a bad thing that the transfer committee have been on leave over the summer. Martin o Neil once said that he would never criticise Robbie savage for his **** ups with a football, rather the player who gave him the ball in the first place, I see our situation with transfers very similar to I Neil's thoughts......Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
He was one of those players who always seemed to be reacting a bit later than the action!,his timing never seemed right and I’ve always been a tad impatient with strikers of his size who constantly moan about being outmuscled by defenders, best of luck to him but he’s not someone on the evidence to date,we will particularly miss.
Rotherham gotta be worth a tenner at 10/1 for promotion nowQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
A [very] poor man's Dominic Solanki.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
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Originally Posted by Dave Blue
:hehe::hehe::hehe: you too
We let about fifteen go though three years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
We’ve largely ignored the Academy for years and now, when we decide to start using it, were chucking in good young players into a team seriously lacking a balance between youth and experience to sink or swim..
I accept that the young players do tend to get ignored when people consider our prospects for the new season, but, as I keep on saying, they’re going to have to be very good and BBM’s going to have to play an absolute blinder for us to be promotion contenders with the squad as it stands - these players we’re supposed to be bringing in before the window closes are going to have to be very good.
Call me crazy but I've always thought that there's a player in Etete and I wouldn't be surprised if he does well in League one with Rotherham.
And I have, but you do have to wonder about the decision to extend his contract and the one to give O’Dowda a 3 (three!) year deal and then sell him six months later :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
Same here. He won me a sum of money a couple of seasons ago when scoring the winner. ShameQuote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
Thing is, how long do the club give players like Etete to prove themselves? he's been involved in over 50 league games for us and for the best part he's not been very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
To be fair, had we not been relegated I’m fairly sure we wouldn’t have not moved on O Dowda.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Maybe he had a relegation clause.
Giving Etete a 2 year deal when had done **** all in the previous 2 years to justify it is just another in a long line of nonsensical and poor decisions by the football club under Tans regime. Especially since Warnock left, the recruitment has just got worse and worse, which takes some doing considering the dross he brought when we got relegated from the PL.
When we gave Etete his two year extension in January, we were saying he was going to be a City player for the next two and a half years and yet he’s going to spend the first eighteen months, at least, of that period at other clubs, so what was the point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
I’d have offered him a one year extension and kept him here last season as a back up to Salech - it’s with the benefit of hindsight obviously, but that loan spell at Bolton has set his career back slightly.
As Hartley alludes to, the levels of ineptitude are staggering. Someone has made a decision to offer him that contract, when most supporters wouldn't have agreed to it, then BBM comes in and he's out the door. It would be interesting to know who thought it would be a good idea to offer Etete an extended contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
If the club expected a bidding war this summer for Kion Etete, then it might have made some sense to give him an extended contract to ensure he wouldn't leave on the cheap. In all other circumstances it is expensive madness to extend. The real world is made up of all those other circumstances. I would love to know where these decisions come from and how they are signed off - Paddy Deboys, the manager or the next manager, Ken Choo, the board? With a final approval from Vincent Tan on someone's advice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Who knows, but it looks an increasingly leaderless and disfunctional way of running a club.
It does worry me if we pick up any injuries in the next month
Maybe, just maybe, the new manager has shipped out what he believes to be the dross, and thinks he can have a good season with the players he’s kept, along with the youngsters he’s added to the squad.
Like all managers, he will have to fall on his sword if it goes tits up.
The standard in Division 1 obviously isn’t as good as the standard in the championship. It would be more worrying if a team who’d been promoted didn’t strengthen their squad.
Lets see how the first 10 games go, before we start wetting our knickers.
I think he gets an unfair deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
People and I feel refs assume he should rough up to it purely because he’s big.
If he was a 5’8 striker we’d say he’d be justified and not getting the fouls he deserves.
I think he showed promise but we’ve never got the most out of strikers.
Etete is as weak as a kitten. As already mentioned in this thread - spends too much time sat on his arse, throwing his arms up asking the ref for a foul, before slowly rising to his feet and dusting himself down - while play continues around him.
I’d rather say that he often got little protection from referees, but maybe that was because they thought he was doing what you say he was. I was supportive of Etete, but Salech is a big step up from him, especially in terms of his attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five