I don't think Salech is any good

He is always fouling.
He gives the ball away cheaply.
He doesn't hold the long ball up, as a 6 ft 5 lump should.
He doesn't score enough goals...this season

You’re entitled to your opinion of course, can’t say I agree with it

I was just thinking how all our players look better at this level as you would expect them to but Salech looked better at championship level.

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Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad

I was just thinking how all our players look better at this level as you would expect them to but Salech looked better at championship level.

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He looks pissed off
He won't be bought anytime soon

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Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead

He is always fouling.
He gives the ball away cheaply.
He doesn't hold the long ball up, as a 6 ft 5 lump should.
He doesn't score enough goals...this season

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Wtf?? Lying ???

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Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead

He looks pissed off
He won't be bought anytime soon

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just send him back to Hans christian andersson land

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Originally Posted by Jonezy17

Wtf?? Lying ???

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Can’t please all fans, undefeated, playing decent football and we’ve got fans still moaning??

He's proven his quality when we were struggling in the Championship. His form might have dipped a little this season, but we're clearly not as dependent on him right now. For what it's worth, his positioning is good, but we often don't tend to play a ground game and feed our striker as opposed to focusing on a lot of wing play. So Salech is going to get less involvement outside of a good header when he can.

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Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead

He looks pissed off
He won't be bought anytime soon

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I thought the exact same this evening. He doesn't look a vision of happiness.


Still, he's a good player so the op is incorrect.

It seems as though the system isn’t suited but he will be fine and score a hatful of goals.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

I thought the exact same this evening. He doesn't look a vision of happiness.


Still, he's a good player so the op is incorrect.

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He's looked frustrated at the lack of decisions going his way, same happened at Wimbledon

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

I thought the exact same this evening. He doesn't look a vision of happiness.


Still, he's a good player so the op is incorrect.

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That's a matter of opinion. we have players biting at the chomp.

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Originally Posted by bluesp

You’re entitled to your opinion of course, can’t say I agree with it

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Ditto.

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Originally Posted by City123

He's looked frustrated at the lack of decisions going his way, same happened at Wimbledon

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This for sure. He's constantly being held back by opponents. He started fist pumping the air when a decision when his way earlier.

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Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK

That's a matter of opinion. we have players biting at the chomp.

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We do yeah. Doesn't change the fact he's a good player.

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Originally Posted by City123

He's looked frustrated at the lack of decisions going his way, same happened at Wimbledon

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Agreed, defenders are all over him, pulling, blocking, tripping, and getting away with murder, while he gets nothing. He’s not fully clicked with the new system yet, either, but BBM will sort him out. Once he settles, he’ll be back to banging them in again.

I think Ken Dodd's Dad's Dog is alive and kicking.

It's all about opinions!

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Agreed, defenders are all over him, pulling, blocking, tripping, and getting away with murder, while he gets nothing. He’s not fully clicked with the new system yet, either, but BBM will sort him out. Once he settles, he’ll be back to banging them in again.

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Agree with this but he’s doing fine, he’s got a goal, could have had more and gives us a different dimension . He just looks frustrated more with the manhandling he’s getting every game. He’s a very good player at this level and I feel will get better too

He does the dog work in this system and is constantly taking the ball under pressure, whilst holding off defenders to bring others into play so that we can move through the gears quickly. He may not score as many as last year but his contribution will be just as big.

Notice how we could barely make the ball stick and were penned in by Cheltenham in the last 15 mins quite often … once he went off.

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Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub

He does the dog work in this system and is constantly taking the ball under pressure, whilst holding off defenders to bring others into play so that we can move through the gears quickly. He may not score as many as last year but his contribution will be just as big.

Notice how we could barely make the ball stick and were penned in by Cheltenham in the last 15 mins quite often … once he went off.

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Yes, very true , good point too

What? I must have some alcohol as my opinion couldn’t be more the opposite. Thought he was outstanding tonight, especially his hold up play. He took up all the aggro which freed up the midfield & wingers.

Good players get singled out by the opposition, they know he’s a good player. While he’s having his battles, others are finding space to knock it about, we’ve got defences rattled, whether passing it around them or Salech getting physically involved, it’s all good stuff.

I've expressed my opinions before and was probably in a 1% minority ! But I still struggle to see what people see in him. He's almost pathologically slow on the ground, either moving, with the ball at his feet, or trying to score. So last night the defender [of the worst team on the EFL] effectively had him in his pocket. Salech never once came off his marker preferring to grapple it out with him - he barely won the ball once, and then gave it away when he did. He'll score some goals from crosses and corners, but the hype around him has been massively overdone..

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Originally Posted by bluesp

You’re entitled to your opinion of course, can’t say I agree with it

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Ditto.

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Ditto +1

Can't help thinking that the question in the thread title only gets asked because Salech is not scoring more often. It's funny, last season when. he was scoring at a really good rate for someone playing in a bottom of the table team, I wasn't completely convinced by him mainly because, when he got within, say, twenty five yards of goal, the blinkers would come on as better placed colleagues were ignored and he'd look to shoot - to use the hilarious phrase which i think Andy Townsend has copyright of, he was nkt "picking his head up" to look for other options or to use another beauty "he didn't have his head on a swivel".

Although, I'm sure Salech is unhappy at not scoring against such a generous defence last night, as it tuyrns out, I thought he had a very good game with his awareness of team mates' positioning as good as I've ever seen it.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

I've expressed my opinions before and was probably in a 1% minority ! But I still struggle to see what people see in him. He's almost pathologically slow on the ground, either moving, with the ball at his feet, or trying to score. So last night the defender [of the worst team on the EFL] effectively had him in his pocket. Salech never once came off his marker preferring to grapple it out with him - he barely won the ball once, and then gave it away when he did. He'll score some goals from crosses and corners, but the hype around him has been massively overdone..

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I think the Cheltenham centre half had Salech in his pocket is as bonkers as the Lamb thread during Covid. 😂😂😂

I can't comment on last night's game - apart from a three-minute highlights video, I didn't see it - but Salech has cut a frustrated figure during recent matches. He's often looked isolated up front and things haven't quite been dropping for him. Nevertheless, I think he's been doing OK and it won't be a surprise if he scores a few during the coming weeks.

There should be some balance, though. I like his attitude, I think he's decent enough and I believe he'll be a significant asset at this level in due course, but he's clearly far from the finished article and I don't believe he's as good as some seem to think he is.

Thought he held the ball up well last night on a number of occasions, particularly when played to feet.

Few awkward moments but the guy is what 6'5, has a good goal ratio for us, if he could move and dribble like Rubin then he wouldn't be anywhere near us.

He looks very frustrated, so many fouls against him are just ignored and then the slightest thing he does is picked up. Reminds me of some of the shit that Moore has to get through.

We could definitely do with giving him a few more crosses to compete for, don't blindly get it in every time but maybe a few times a match just a quicker ball in for him to attack. Still a bit too isolated at times.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

I've expressed my opinions before and was probably in a 1% minority ! But I still struggle to see what people see in him. He's almost pathologically slow on the ground, either moving, with the ball at his feet, or trying to score. So last night the defender [of the worst team on the EFL] effectively had him in his pocket. Salech never once came off his marker preferring to grapple it out with him - he barely won the ball once, and then gave it away when he did. He'll score some goals from crosses and corners, but the hype around him has been massively overdone..

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How can you say that his marker had him in his pocket, when he was fouled every time they went for the ball? The only person the marker had in his pocket was the useless referee, who finally booked him in the 91st minute.

During the first half the sky sports+ commentary said Salech was putting in a mom performance terrorising the centre halves

several games this season opposing fans have been complimentary about him, he's doing fine

He is a quality player - but he's a target man. He doesn't have masses of trickery or acceleration to lose a player - but he holds the ball up, is an effective outlet in build up and is arguably the best finisher we have. He's also playing this season in a totally new style from last season so is maybe taking time adjusting. He'll start banging them in soon.

This is.. certainly a take..

I think he's been roughed up a bit this season, particularly on the road, and cuts a very frustrated figure. Not getting a lot of sympathy from officials at the minute. Confident the goals will come though. It's early days. For me he's easily the best number 9 we've had since Kieffer.

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Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead

He is always fouling.
He gives the ball away cheaply.
He doesn't hold the long ball up, as a 6 ft 5 lump should.
He doesn't score enough goals...this season

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I think that he holds the ball up really well and looks so strong. In fact, he is the counter opposite to so many strikers that we have had recently who just got pushed off the ball and out muscled (Etete, Glazel)

I’d hate to have to play against him or see how our own centre backs would get on against him!

Salech has cut a frustrated figure at times but he's a striker and I'm going to assume is hungry to get on the scoresheet.

And perhaps my opinion is with rose-tinted specs, but I think for the most part he's put in decent performances this season, but just not quite firing on all cylinders yet.

He's been hounded by the opposition this season, probably should have won at least one or even two penalties. He is guilty of snatching at some chances that have come his way but so has Robinson, both have lacked that composure inside the box when a chance comes to them. However with that said, his work rate in my opinion is unquestionable, even if he does look frustrated. He's constantly making runs but with Cardiff's patient play the ball more often or not is recycled. But the modern game as what BBM is trying to employ results in strikers often not getting many touches of the ball. But even when he doesn't receive the ball, he is never static and constantly making runs and I think is one of the reasons why players like Rubin have shone this season because his presence demands defenders to commit themselves, which is providing players like Rubin, Willock etc... the opportunity to break through the lines and into space.

I'm confident he'll get over 15 goals this season. Just a matter of opportunities coming to him and finding composure in front of goal.

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Originally Posted by SuisseBluebird

Salech has cut a frustrated figure at times but he's a striker and I'm going to assume is hungry to get on the scoresheet.

And perhaps my opinion is with rose-tinted specs, but I think for the most part he's put in decent performances this season, but just not quite firing on all cylinders yet.

He's been hounded by the opposition this season, probably should have won at least one or even two penalties. He is guilty of snatching at some chances that have come his way but so has Robinson, both have lacked that composure inside the box when a chance comes to them. However with that said, his work rate in my opinion is unquestionable, even if he does look frustrated. He's constantly making runs but with Cardiff's patient play the ball more often or not is recycled. But the modern game as what BBM is trying to employ results in strikers often not getting many touches of the ball. But even when he doesn't receive the ball, he is never static and constantly making runs and I think is one of the reasons why players like Rubin have shone this season because his presence demands defenders to commit themselves, which is providing players like Rubin, Willock etc... the opportunity to break through the lines and into space.

I'm confident he'll get over 15 goals this season. Just a matter of opportunities coming to him and finding composure in front of goal.

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Spot on for me - I would also add he seems to enjoy the success of others and is quick to congratulate others when they score - seems a team player and also has a good rapport with the fans 👍

While the opposition defence is worrying about Salech, the rest of the team get some space to shine. He’s going to score goals, but being double-marked every game is going to make it harder. He’ll be fine.

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Originally Posted by SuisseBluebird

Salech has cut a frustrated figure at times but he's a striker and I'm going to assume is hungry to get on the scoresheet.

And perhaps my opinion is with rose-tinted specs, but I think for the most part he's put in decent performances this season, but just not quite firing on all cylinders yet.

He's been hounded by the opposition this season, probably should have won at least one or even two penalties. He is guilty of snatching at some chances that have come his way but so has Robinson, both have lacked that composure inside the box when a chance comes to them. However with that said, his work rate in my opinion is unquestionable, even if he does look frustrated. He's constantly making runs but with Cardiff's patient play the ball more often or not is recycled. But the modern game as what BBM is trying to employ results in strikers often not getting many touches of the ball. But even when he doesn't receive the ball, he is never static and constantly making runs and I think is one of the reasons why players like Rubin have shone this season because his presence demands defenders to commit themselves, which is providing players like Rubin, Willock etc... the opportunity to break through the lines and into space.

I'm confident he'll get over 15 goals this season. Just a matter of opportunities coming to him and finding composure in front of goal.

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The team needs to start to pressure the referee every time he's dragged down. Cowlill, Chambers, and the rest need to be building a case from the start, only then will he get his fair share of penalties.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

We do yeah. Doesn't change the fact he's a good player.

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In the right set up i'm almost sure you are right:thumbup:

Not the finished article by any means but why would he be at this point? I feel overall he is doing very well. The defender was virtually playing a different sport -
wrestling - last night. HeÂ’ll get his fair share of goals this season and his hold up play is good.
I should add that the Cheltenham number nine fouled throughout and definitely hit the much battered Lawlor on a few occasions.