Good riddance.
I understand being vengeful isn’t a good trait but sometimes a bit of prison justice is a good thing.
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Good riddance.
I understand being vengeful isn’t a good trait but sometimes a bit of prison justice is a good thing.
Meanwhile in the good 'ol US of A the GOP are protecting their pedo's with tooth and claw. Funny old world.
I hope, just as in Murder on the Orient Express, that everyone had their own turn with the knife so it cant be down to just to one person.
Good riddance to the c**t.
He’s probably been killed by someone who’s carried out heinous crimes himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Eye for an eyeQuote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
Surprised he lasted this long in there
Spoilers…Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
FFS, I've not watched that yetQuote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Well that person can be pleased that they’ve finally done something good for the worldQuote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks
Killed by another nonce I’m reading so let’s not make a hero of the killer just yet.
Hope Watkins death was slow.
I don’t think anyone will make a hero of the killer, but he’s done the world a favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I agree and hope it it was slow, and that he lived in fear for a long time before it
Trash takes out the trashQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
The screws should leave a load of knifes about, accidentally of course, maybe they’d all wipe out each other?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
As long he is dead i don't careQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Wishing death on people is not a good thing to have in your mind
I presume you don’t have kids or don’t know the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfresco
I don’t agree with the death sentence, 1) because of the risk of killing someone innocent and 2) because it’s the easy way out.
Given that 1) isn’t right in this case, and neither is 2) if he was terrorised, this is justice
I agree. Hanging in chains for the rest of his life with his b*****s cut off would have been preferable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfresco
Public flogging would be good, then up on a cross for a few weeks followed by hung, drawn and quartered. The brutal old days ehQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Arming the prisoners? It's an interesting proposal, I'll give you that. There is just the one ****ing massive flaw in it that I can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
As far as I'm concerned he got what he deserved. He knew what he was doing, he knew what it was and he just did it anyway. To children,Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
One a rapist and the other a murderer, both serving well over 20 years it seems. He owed a dealer £900 apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
One a rapist and kidnapper who dragged a woman off the street and held her captive, raping her repeatedly. As I said in my intitial post, hope Watkins had a slow and painful death but lets not make a hero out of someone equally depraved.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Seen people raising a glass to the killers and even one person suggesting a Go Fund me page. The mind boggles.
What is wrong with us?
I’m surprised by the number of people here saying his death was deserved and hoping his death was slow and painful. Personally, I would rather he had spent the rest of his days behind bars and castrated.
Supposing one of your kids committed these types of crimes - would you want to them subjected to a slow and painful death?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
Whatever you think about this guy - he presumably had family.
I find it hard to comprehend my kids doing something as vile as his crimes, but if they did then my life and family would be over, that’s for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
His crimes are beyond prison and he’s got what he deserved, and I’m pleased it’s for a drug debt as he will have been fearing it
Spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
So did his defenceless victims. Im sure they wont be shedding any tears for his family.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
its a win / win isnt it, a completely evil man getting killed ( hopefully a painful death ) and a rapist and murderer both getting extra tariffQuote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
whats not to like about it
I'm going to be quite blunt...Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
' People ' like Watkins should just be injected, and cremated.
They adapt to prison life, and continue to be a drain on decent society.
The less ***** in this world, the better.
And you’d say the same if it was your own kid?Quote:
Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
Can this be moved to the other board, I don't even want to see the guy's name on here to be honest.
I made the mistake of reading the judge's summing up on the case that someone posted on here years ago, and it was horrific, I was genuinely traumatised for days.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Family relations are no excuse for such vile and depraved behaviour.
I don’t think the parent of someone who has done what he has is relevant. There are very, very few people who I would want to suffer a violent death, but absolutely I would for himQuote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Most people love their children unconditionally. Some folk here obviously don't.
If the utter nightmare scenario unfolded where one of my own children were found guilty of such despicable acts, I don't think I could say I would want to see them die a slow painful death because of it. I can't see how any parent could for the reason I stated above. Spend the rest of their days in prison for sure, but not a slow painful death.
Watkins was a monster - but a monster who was behind bars and serving the sentence that the court imposed.
Murdering any prisoner is not a good thing. It is another crime.
I can understand why some people, especially those who in some way are victims of Watkins, or have their own experiences that made his crimes very personal would be glad that he is dead. That he is no longer a 'threat', even though locked away.
What I can't understand is the mindset of people who publicly fantasise about the sexual mutilation and torture of another human being - even if that person was a monster.
The skin of civilisation is very thin at times! But maybe that is just my woolly liberalism showing above the parapet?
I think that depends on whether unconditional love exists as anything other than a concept. It'd certainly be put to the test in that scenario. As much as I would like to believe it does and believe me, there is a lot I could forgive or at least try to, I'm pretty sure that raping babies would be stepping over the line for me I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
It's fair to say that in that scenario my judgement would be impaired anyway, so maybe I wouldn't see that the person was so vile as to be subhuman. Who knows. I hope I never find out. But I'll continue to believe that someone capable of those crimes isn't worth oxygen.
also jon1959 you normally speak a lot of sense, and given my left-leaning I would most often agree with you re letting the justice system take it's course, but there are some instances that are just too evil.
It’s okay. I get it. There are some folks in this world that would be happy to see their own child die a slow painful death if they were found to be guilty of doing the same vile crimes as Ian Watkins.
Nobody can say how they’d react to this horrific scenario, unless it happens to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
It would be very interesting to find out how Watkins parents ( if they are still alive) have dealt with 1. His abhorrent crimes, and 2. His violent death.
How has Fred and Rose West’s children handled what they did?
How do Peter Sutcliffe's family feel about his crimes?
Being a parent myself, I do know how unconditional love feels, but there has to be limits. (Which sounds contradictory).
My Step mum (yrs before she met my Dad), discovered her 21yr old son was dealing drugs from the family home.She told him he had 2 choices. Move out, or stay and stop dealing. She told him that if he she caught him doing it again, she’d call the police. He didn’t take the warning seriously, and when she caught him again, she stuck to her word and got the police involved. He got arrested, got fined and got a suspended jail sentence.He left home and told his mother he’d never see her, or speak to her again.
He stuck to his word. 35 yrs later she died during Covid, without ever seeing him or hearing from him again. She didn’t even know if he was still alive.
I asked her before she died, if she’d ever regretted her course of action. Her reply was, it’s broken my heart, but if she had her time all over again, she’d have still done the same thing.
Take from that what you will.
I mean there is the middle ground where we could teach them not to rape kids, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo