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Originally Posted by Heathblue
So it wasn't terrorist related then
It's telling that you're weaponizing a tragedy to beat your political opponents over the head with a cudgel.
Funny how the right doesn't weaponize all the murder and savagery committed by native citizens, and only cares about it if it has any potential link to the foreign.
Shameful. Get out and help a charity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Didn’t you get your fingers burnt recently with a similar thread ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Absolutely but I had the grace to hold my hand up straightawayQuote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Homeless , our poor ex soldiers is usually the battle cryQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
2 British guys go on a stabbing rampage. Absolutely awful: full stop!
I did not like they said they are uk born but then said where their parents were fromQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
You did. I’ll grant you that 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Seemingly a lot of Forest fans from their London branch on that train. Horrific for all involved. Knife crime has got to be addressed seriously.
Quite, I don't see the relevance.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
It’s to appease Reform. Dangerous lunatics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Who’s the dangerous lunatics ? Reform or the 2 Brits who carried out this attack?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
Two Brits?Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
One has just been released because he was 'not involved' - but had the pleasure of being arrested by plod for more than 18 hours and having his racial profile publicised around the world.
The other Brit may well be a dangerous lunatic. Eyewitnesses claim he was standing with his knife after the attack shouting to the police for them to kill him. Not sure about the latest definition of 'lunatic', but that must tick a few boxes?
I would not object to being wrongly arrested under such exceptional circumstances, but at least you got to do your little virtue signalling dance :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
As this happened just after leaving Peterborough I did wonder about our lot being safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Did seem a bit odd that there were two people arrested….Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
There are so many things you do not object to….this does not surprise me at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Americans will suggest guns, which will just make things worse, like congratulations, you've given the murderers access to a reliable ranged weapon now.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
It all depends on the circumstances of course. A traumatic mass casualty event would be one such scenario given all of the panic and mayhem taking place, and the possibility of conflicting and/or inaccurate witnesses statements. What would you do then, send all the suspects home with a hot cup of tea and tell them you'll be in touch in a few days after you have studied all the security and personal cell phone video footage?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Once again you jumped the shark, at the time i posted this it was known that it wasn't terrorist related hence i made no mention of it because i knew!!, others have introduced other nuances into the thread because being virtuos is a thing on here, i have made repeated references to how the UK is/has becoming lawlessness of recent, and this shall we call it an incident ? reinforces my point, do you think its too much to ask to be able to feel safe on public transport ? i use it 6 days per week sometimes 7, there are pictures going about of the guy with the knife, maybe they are fake i do not know but if faced with this situation I would say it would have been a terrifying situation, additionally there are also threads on X from some faced with the terror that happened on that train, if faced with that knife, i do not think that the situation would have been worse because the person wasn't a pot bellied 50 year old white dude, I would not see colour race or religion in a situation like like this, just evil and in the world we live in at the moment Evil keeps going lower and lower or higher and higher depending of how you see the world and again as i have made reference to, the left have gone from tree loving peace huggers to the violence of Anteefa, have a good evening/day, I'll be on public transport again tomorrow .Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
The day we let the public in the UK officially carry guns, will be the day it’s all over for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote
The guy who carried out this attack has most certainly got mental health issues. Whether he has just flipped or whether it is the culmination of a him suffering with this for a long time will hopefully be discovered.
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Originally Posted by Heathblue
Absolute nonsense
It wasn't announced it wasn't terror related till late morning
Wtf has anti racist activity got to do with a mass stabbing on a train ?
Stupid post by you more deserving of a place on Facebook angry section
We’d be phucked if they ever let us have guns here, probably worse than the mental situation they have in the statesQuote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
I think your brain is getting eaten by social media. Shoplifting has definitely increased but if you read social media you would believe you can't go for a walk in the UK without getting stabbed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
I was on a train through London not long ago where a guy a few seats up was clearly trying to provoke a response from anybody he could. He was on the phone to someone and saying how shit everyone on the train was, completely pathetic. It did make me think at the time though that a train is the worst place for something like this to happen, I was tucked away in a very tight seating bit and would have been completely helpless if someone came at me.
Most crime has fallen significantly in the last 30 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
https://policinginsight.com/feature/...its-increased/
Do you yourself believe those figuresQuote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Lowest murder rates since 1980Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
If you dont believe those figures then you are living in the ...its a conspiracy ....special private members club
The secretary is Heathblue
This sums up the hard of thinking. Confronted with some facts that fly in their face, they merely state they don’t believe them. What a get out clause for dozy gits.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
What a weird thread this is, but against my better judgement I'll weigh in...Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
I've spent a lot of time during the last week or so in pubs and clubs due to various music and comedy gigs, and it set me thinking. I genuinely can't remember the last time I saw violence of any kind while I've been in a pub or at a gig. In my experience, trouble in such places seems to be very rare these days. But when I began going to pubs and clubs in the early-Eighties, violence of one sort or another was very frequent, and some of it was pretty grim. You'd witness trouble pretty much weekly depending on how often you went out.
By the same token, violence at the football is extremely rare these days, whereas it used to be a very regular occurrence.
As a rule, I feel a lot safer wherever I go these days by comparison to how I felt in the Eighties and Nineties. Back then, there were pubs and clubs you'd automatically avoid if possible, and going to gigs in Cardiff or places like Newport, Swansea and Bristol was often a nervous experience, but none of that is true now. I haven't felt unsafe anywhere for many years.
As regards travelling on public transport, I don't believe it's any less safe now than it was while we were younger. Getting the bus home after an evening in the city centre often used to be a bit of a worry when I was a youngster, but I don't see many problems these days. There's always a danger you will encounter the occasional lunatic, but for the most part people seem to behave themselves.
Having said all of the above, me and Tracey were attacked in her car by a pair of tossers on eBikes last month while coming home from a gig, and during the same week I was involved in the incident on Queen Street you may have read about on my FB page with the guy screaming racist abuse at a young girl in the middle of the afternoon. I've never experienced things like that before.
Is the UK becoming more lawless of late? On balance, I don't think so.
So it should, we now have cctv everywhere, particularly in Cardiff city centre it seems. Furthermore, everybody seems to have ring doorbells or cameras on their houses. Think knife crime is still on the rise isn’t it? Murders high in 2022, uk seems to average between 600-700.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Fear of crime ......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
I started going into town in about 87/88 and after about midnight it seemed lawless with police bombing from place to place. I recall coming out of some gig on Charles street once and about 150 (mainly football lads) were brawling away, apparently Ely v Llanrumney. If you ever ventured down the south end of st Mary street there would be at least 100 Docks lads milling about around Lloyds or Chicago’s which were both dodgy as. You had to have your whitts about you or know some of them. It wasn’t too difficult to avoid back then mind as it was visually obvious. Nowadays I don’t think it’s so obvious where trouble can flare up and I’m sure the cctv helps somewhat whereas there was hardly any back in the 80’s. God knows what it was like in the 70’s?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
That's comical. I like the way the author refers to 'crime drop deniers'. For the purpose of accuracy please add 'reported' before 'crime'. Some good articles on their website about diversity and inclusion as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Has crime fallen significantly or has the reporting of crimes fallen significantly?Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Genuine question, not being sarky. I wasn’t alive 30 years ago so I can’t say what it was like, but I definitely don’t feel safer now than I did 10 years ago.
Police numbers have been slashed, seeing officers on the beat is pretty much non existent these days so petty crimes on the street (I would assume) are easier to get away with.
I also know people who simply don’t bother reporting things like phone snatchings, bike thefts, sheds broken into, etc because 99 times out of 100 the police do nothing.
Things like shoplifting or drug use might as well be decriminalised with how blatant and bold people are about it.
The old B52 armour/selection bias example springs to mind.
There is a whole science around it. The Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) is used to monitor non-reported crime. They ask a sample of the population if they have experienced any crime in the last 12 months and then extrapolate it out. Results have also shown a general reduction in violent crime overtime, but a steady growth in fraud and computer based crime :Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...e2025#homicide
As long as I can remember there have been accusations that crime figures are manipulated. If you believe that though, you must also believe there was some golden time in the past where that wasn't happening (and I know which side of that fence I sit on)
I’m starting to think that you and Sludge are both having trouble grasping a few things on here.Who has said they don’t believe the statistics that Delmbox posted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
I merely asked him what his opinion was about them.
TLG and a few others have spoken about how they feel, and have added some real life experiences to back up their opinions.
We are allowed to question things on here.
For what it’s worth, I think most of those statistics are not far off, although shoplifting, theft, violence against shop workers, hospital staff, police and school teachers has risen by a considerable margin.
When you describe folk as hard of thinking and dizzy gits, you do come across as a bit of a tosser.
Monkfish call them 'comical' which suggested to me that he doesn't believe them!Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder