But it’s time we moved on.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-lockdown-laws
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But it’s time we moved on.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-lockdown-laws
What a week for boy wonder getting dragged into this one too.
Sunak out Hancock in anybody? :hehe:
The gruesome twosome will either get hanged together or not al all. Any honour and they should have resigned already of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Oh come on, they’ve both been working incredibly hard.
quelle surprise.
let's see if the punt into the long grass has given them enough time for this to be mostly forgotten - I suspect it has
Good comedy turn just now by Michael Fabricant defending Johnson.
No wonder people are sceptical about all the diktats and rules which was supposed to be “for your safety” if they were fragrantly ignored at government level.
Are we still talking about this as we face such challenges in the world .
Most of us knew the rules were there, most broke them .
Let's move on .
Voters can decide .
Thankfully you aren't in charge of what people are and are not allowed to talk about.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Yes, as it's important to hold accountable those in power, especially those at the very top who broke the law, and lied to parliament and the public, whilst in numbers 10 and 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Can you provide some evidence(other than the well evidenced flagrant law breaking going on in Downing Street) that most knew the rules and broke them? And do you not think its even more important that those that are actually setting the rules should be following them?!
Grow up!Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
It was the lies that brought Jonathan Aitken and Jeffrey Archer down - and Chris Huhne.
Whether the same will finish Laurel and Hardy is not so certain - now that any pretence of 'honour' has been ditched and the Ministerial Code seems to be optional.
But my guess is that the lies will finally finish Johnson, and the tax avoidance and green card will catch up with Sunak (he will jump!)
And most of us didn't break the Covid rules LOM.
Looks like the police may be reopening the investigation into Starmers beer.
I must say, whilst I think the whole thing is a bit hyperbolic, I do not understand how Starmer escaped investigation or fines.
He didn't escape investigation, the investigation took place and it was concluded that no rules were broken. People need to remember that every incident needs to be viewed within the context of the rules at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
The reason some of the number 10 incidents got such a reaction was because of the restrictions placed on people at the time. Comparing the number 10 BYOB party invite to 100 people in May 2020 to a beer in a constituency office in April 2021 is naive or deliberately misleading.
I think the issue is more in terms of Rishi Sunaks fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
I don't see how Starmer has escaped it from what I've read. I'm uncomfortable with the role of Police and Crime Commissioners as it is, I think it's appalling that the role is politicised, but it does seem strange to me. I don't see the difference.
Escaped what? The investigation or a fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
So basically if the police investigate and reach a different conclusion to you then the system is bent, that sounds like a healthy position...
A simple explanation as to how this is different would suffice. Surely with your strong opinions on this, you would want him held to account if necessary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
I do find it increasingly suspicious to be honest. The fact that Police and Crime Commissioners are elected on a party ticket is stupid and muddies the waters
Video below.
https://twitter.com/TommyGribbin/sta...85753707089923