Strange days indeed.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...on-lying-media
https://boris-johnson-lies.com
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Strange days indeed.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...on-lying-media
https://boris-johnson-lies.com
Every politician lies he just has mastered it better than others , they are all economical with the truth .
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Originally Posted by life on mars
You’re nothing if not consistent 😂😂😂
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
There are lies, damned lies and Boris Johnson!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Politicians are all liars.
He the most advantageous liar at the moment , plus he won't nationalise your TV set or set up camps for Jewish people
I always love this defence. It's like defending someone for stabbing by saying "we all lose our cool from time to time"Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Lies are not equal.
More Tory lies exposed.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1196335265993953281
It is a shame that won't get the exposure it deserves with the people who most depend on the NHS - the older voters who have fallen for the Tory lies and spin. The Peter Oborne piece is again right to the point:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Welcome to the Conservative party election campaign. I have been a political reporter for almost three decades and have never encountered a senior British politician who lies and fabricates so regularly, so shamelessly and so systematically as Boris Johnson. Or gets away with his deceit with such ease.
And on 'all politicians lie':
A big reason for Johnson’s easy ride is partisanship from the parts of the media determined to get him elected. I have talked to senior BBC executives, and they tell me they personally think it’s wrong to expose lies told by a British prime minister because it undermines trust in British politics. Is that a reason for giving Johnson free rein to make any false claim he wants?
Others take the view that all politicians lie, and just shrug their shoulders. But it’s not true that all politicians lie. Treating all politicians as liars gives a licence for the total collapse of integrity of British politics, a collapse that habitual liars such as Johnson are delighted to exploit. The British media is not holding him to account for his repeated falsehoods. It’s time we journalists did our job, and started to regain our self-respect.
Regarding that video Jon, I notice it's had 1.2 million views so, maybe, the message is getting across?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
For me, what makes Oborne's article so convincing is that he admits he has voted Conservative for most of his life - this is not your "normal" Prime Minister and the days of the Tories being genteel old buffers who were "brought up the right way" are long gone - if they ever existed.
That is a pretty depressing account of Boris's work. Maybe as a society we've become so used it we've stopped caring. If this is true, then we deserve whatever follows if he's elected again.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
"As with Donald Trump, for Johnson there seems to be no political price to pay for deceit and falsehood. The mainstream media, as Washington’s response to Johnson’s speech shows, prefers to go along with his lies rather than expose them."
https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1196545130192343043
The tv and press are nearly all right wing, that's why we have a buffoon in #10 and the asylum has been taken over by the inmates.
I'd say it's more the death of democracy and the gradual dumbing down of the population to a point where they're protesting that they're not taxed enough about "climate change"
We will soon see if England is a lost cause as regards caring sharing politics with this election result [and Wales to a degree as well], we will be in a better position to then judge if our people will be interested in the independence route once they realise they are out voted by England and stuck with more and more right wing policies been inflicted on us.
The days after this General Election might be the just the start and not the end of Wales evolving political story.
Whatever the GE result we need a strong government that makes ,sticks and delivers its strategy instead of all this pathetic dithering.
Wales In my view is safer within the UK than out.
England is a lost cause and as Eddie Butler said ''The United Kingdom that made my parents proud to call themselves British no longer exists''.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I see the liars are at it again.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tcheckuk-brand
I did not think the Tories could stoop any lower. They have proved me wrong and are showing complete comtempt for the electorate.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO2zT9-B2X4
Must-watch viewing - Michael Gove being interviewed on Channel 4 yesterday. 9 minutes of trying to avoid answering simple questions by accusing the journalist of bias.
Just seen it on Twitter. Incredible stuff, yet people seem to accept it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
people pick and chose there criticism , why hasn't the sexual court case with Alex Salmond picked up the same traction as Prince Andrews and Boris poor behaviors .Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
14 alleged counts offence one on armistice day ?s
why not ask if Nicola Sturgeon allegedly knew of SNP cover-up of sexual misconduct allegations facing Salmond , was the party was informed of complaints a decade ago.
""The First Minister refused to say whether Angus Robertson, the Nationalists' then Westminster leader, told her about complaints made by female staff at Edinburgh Airport in 2008.""
Guess is just not right a party enough to give it momentum into media headlines or even comment on CCMB .
This is one of the worst cases of 'Whataboutism' I've seen from you - which is impressive in itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
its called balance , I dont condone any of their behaviors by selective political bias ,it maybe 'Whataboutism' or it maybe factQuote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
... and to answer your question: Because one is a f**king Prince, another is the Prime Minister of the UK and the other one is a Scottish ex-MP.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
It's not balance at all. You're asking for Alex Salmond to get the same attention as Prince Andrew and Boris Johnson. It's ridiculous and diverting from the discussion about Tories lying out of their arses during this campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
It's not called balance, it's called knee jerk jumping to the defence of a party you swear you've got no time for. I don't know why you should feel so defensive about Johnson and his cronies when they are getting such an easy ride from the majority of the media over this election campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Another dodgy what's in it for me party candidate;-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...that-went-bust
Well, putting aside the fact that you can't bring yourself to criticise a conservative directly when the evidence is presented to you, I will address the rest with the good faith it doesn't deserve.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Heisenberg makes a good point about profile but you aren't comparing apples with apples to begin with. One story is about someone who is now facing justice for his alleged illegal behaviour and the other two appear to be protected by an establishment force field that is strong enough to encourage someone like Epstein to drop dead on cue. You really don't understand why people might wish to talk about one more than the other?
Now, we should probably wait for the court case to be concluded to discuss Salmond any further but it's interesting that your opinion on this doesn't mirror your opinion on the Epstein case where you initial reaction was to blame the female victim.
I'd give it a couple of hours before this receives the normal "they're all it" replies from the usual suspects.
https://www.businessinsider.com/bori...9-11?r=US&IR=T
The Tory party is jam packed with liars
Sadly they will probably win the election as the labour party locally and nationally are not brutal enough and fail to twist the knife when opportunities are presented to them on a plate
Corbyn has good principles but he should be attacking Boris and his mob at every opportunity
But the labour party are just too wet , let the youth wing free on the electorate and we might have a chance
As it is we have school teachers and champaign socialists putting leaflets through doors , hoping for the best
CobblersQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
All parties are packed with liars. That's what politicians are, and have been since Ancient Rome.
The only difference is which lies they use to persuade idiots to support them and hand them personal advantage.
Do you honestly think your bunch of liars will do anything more constructive than another bunch of liars ?
The question is which gang will harm us least and that, plus the perception of anti semitism , is what will probably do for the Monster Raving Labour Party.
If the population is now so dumbed down that they can't see the future problems of borrowing billions to nationalise everything and run down production with reduced hours, bigger minimum wages and huge taxes for employers, well that's your best hope of winning.
It could happen - who'd have thought we'd be teaching six year olds about gay sex instead of arithmetic ? If it does though , do you think anyone other than a bunch of Islington champagne socialists will be better off ?
Johnson seems to have a lot of allies in the BBC.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ope...-news-machine/
And yet despite all of this friendly coverage, it seems that whenever I watch Newsnight during this election campaign there is an announcement along the lines of "we tried to get a Government representative on to comment on this, but were told that no one was available".
No other political party is untrustworthy , devious , criminals , lairs ,never hood winked the electorate , not racists , there is that better ?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Johnson has yet to agree to a mauling from Andrew Neil. Maybe running away will be less damaging than having his lies exposed again?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...and-faith-live
Boris Johnson has not yet agreed to date for Andrew Neil interview, says BBC
The BBC has said that Boris Johnson has yet to agree a date for an interview with Andrew Neil, as part of the leader interviews series that Neil is doing. It is not hard to guess why Johnson’s team might be having second thoughts. Neil is the most aggressive and forensic interviewer on TV, and Nicola Sturgeon and Jeremy Corbyn were both left looking diminished after their encounters with him this week.
Is it conceivable that Johnson might just refuse point-blank to show up? In a healthy political culture, that would be unthinkable. But sadly there is no law yet saying someone cannot be appointed PM without having given a lengthy interview to Andrew Neil, and Johnson did try to suspend parliament for five weeks for his own political convenience. So it doesn’t seem impossible that he might pull out entirely ...
BBC News Press Team
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Replying to @BBCNewsPR @afneil
For those asking when Boris Johnson's interview will take place, we're in ongoing discussions with his team but we haven't yet been able to fix a date
2:32 PM - Nov 27, 2019