Keep the Faith

I don’t agree with the booing at all. This is a transition from years worth of crap football and it’s not going to click instantly. We need to support the gaffer and get behind the players or we’re f*cked.

First half was slow but there is at least intent to control the game. That will only get better as the team adjust and key players come in to replace the ones who struggle with passing the ball. It was clear by the end that Ralls and Colwill should be starting.

Second half we upped the tempo and created chances but couldn’t put them away. I thought Giles and Ng played well and got around their man several times, went inside and outside and got balls into the box. Ralls gave a fresh impetus and look to play balls forward. Mcguinness can carry the ball out of defence and link with the midfield. There were very few aimless balls up field which is a positive step in the right direction. If Ralls’ shot flies in the corner, Keiffer gets that tap in or Collo’s header goes in we get a deserved draw and keep up the momentum.

Conceding from set pieces is uncharacteristic of this team. We’ve got enough big lumps there to defend these situations. I thought Moore was poor by his standards and Davies faded after a bright start.

Signs of light. Keep the faith.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 198bore

I don’t agree with the booing at all. This is a transition from years worth of crap football and it’s not going to click instantly. We need to support the gaffer and get behind the players or we’re f*cked.

First half was slow but there is at least intent to control the game. That will only get better as the team adjust and key players come in to replace the ones who struggle with passing the ball. It was clear by the end that Ralls and Colwill should be starting.

Second half we upped the tempo and created chances but couldn’t put them away. I thought Giles and Ng played well and got around their man several times, went inside and outside and got balls into the box. Ralls gave a fresh impetus and look to play balls forward. Mcguinness can carry the ball out of defence and link with the midfield. There were very few aimless balls up field which is a positive step in the right direction. If Ralls’ shot flies in the corner, Keiffer gets that tap in or Collo’s header goes in we get a deserved draw and keep up the momentum.

Conceding from set pieces is uncharacteristic of this team. We’ve got enough big lumps there to defend these situations. I thought Moore was poor by his standards and Davies faded after a bright start.

Signs of light. Keep the faith.

---

Cardiff City fans are very fickle at home and always have been

First half was like watching Trollope's team, side to side (or backwards) passing with no urgency or purpose.
Nelson was shocking (which he continued into the second half).
Bacuna ran around aimlessly for around 12/13 minutes before he even got on the ball. Unfortunately when he did get in the game he promptly gave the ball away with a poor pass and then conceded the corner that Hull scored from.
Pack looked like he'd had a handful of valium before the game!

Having said that it was poor finishing that cost us in the end. Moore, Collins and McGuinness all had great chances which I'm sure they would all expect to finish at least 9 out of 10 times.

Overall it's one step back after two forward, so a disappointing night.

It was an extremely disappointing night after the positivity of the last few games especially when you factor in Hulls lowly position in the league.
The midfield needs urgent tweaking as Pack was shocking last night ☹️

It was ponderous at times but I can see what Morison is trying to achieve. The defence are moving it around instead of lumping it, Mcguinness is stepping out and overlapping, the full backs are pushing up and being brave on the ball. A stronger midfield and this could actually work. Vaulks and Pack are just not good enough.

I agree - we weren't great but it was a slightly unfair reflection on the balance of play. We had two goals disallowed and hit the post twice. The players just look so low on confidence and booing is only going to make it worse.

I don't know what Pack has in his pocket, but how is he ever present and current captain.
I know there is little strength in depth but Geeez!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sunnysideup

It was an extremely disappointing night after the positivity of the last few games especially when you factor in Hulls lowly position in the league.
The midfield needs urgent tweaking as Pack was shocking last night ☹️

---

Like we had no midfield again, vaulks, pack and bacuna are so weak I hope they dont play again…..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 198bore

It was ponderous at times but I can see what Morison is trying to achieve. The defence are moving it around instead of lumping it, Mcguinness is stepping out and overlapping, the full backs are pushing up and being brave on the ball. A stronger midfield and this could actually work. Vaulks and Pack are just not good enough.

---

Totally agree.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 198bore

I don’t agree with the booing at all. This is a transition from years worth of crap football and it’s not going to click instantly. We need to support the gaffer and get behind the players or we’re f*cked.

First half was slow but there is at least intent to control the game. That will only get better as the team adjust and key players come in to replace the ones who struggle with passing the ball. It was clear by the end that Ralls and Colwill should be starting.

Second half we upped the tempo and created chances but couldn’t put them away. I thought Giles and Ng played well and got around their man several times, went inside and outside and got balls into the box. Ralls gave a fresh impetus and look to play balls forward. Mcguinness can carry the ball out of defence and link with the midfield. There were very few aimless balls up field which is a positive step in the right direction. If Ralls’ shot flies in the corner, Keiffer gets that tap in or Collo’s header goes in we get a deserved draw and keep up the momentum.

Conceding from set pieces is uncharacteristic of this team. We’ve got enough big lumps there to defend these situations. I thought Moore was poor by his standards and Davies faded after a bright start.

Signs of light. Keep the faith.

---

Glad you posted this.

I think we may see a formation change soon as well to a back 4. I know he probably only went with it as we were chasing the game and it was too frantic to notice if it was a 433 or a 4231, but he seems to be learning game by game.
He tried the extra midfielder last night after making the change late on the game before. Maybe he's looking at a formation change..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sunnysideup

It was an extremely disappointing night after the positivity of the last few games especially when you factor in Hulls lowly position in the league.
The midfield needs urgent tweaking as Pack was shocking last night ☹️

---

I must be one of the very few that weren't disappointed.

I understand people's reasons why etc, but I'm just looking at it in a completely different way to others it seems.

First half was like watching a trollope team..positive being they can pass the bloody ball, like slaves walking after years in chains (dramatic I know) let's just revel in them passing and realise Morison hasn't had a great deal of time with them, hopefully the movement and other stuff comes next.

We attacked and created second half. It shows we have something to build off, WITH A BIT OF PATIENCE.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 198bore

It was ponderous at times but I can see what Morison is trying to achieve. The defence are moving it around instead of lumping it, Mcguinness is stepping out and overlapping, the full backs are pushing up and being brave on the ball. A stronger midfield and this could actually work. Vaulks and Pack are just not good enough.

---

Bra ****ing vo sir.

The crowd began to get restless when Flint and McGuiness were passing the ball to each other. We're so conditioned to long ball football there seems to be no patience whatsoever. We've been crying out for more possession, well here's what it looks like! next step is to move the ball quicker and pick passes through the lines. The midfield that started last night isn't capable of that, though.

Morison got it completely wrong last night with Pack, Vaulks & Bacuna. The worrying factor is him defending Bacuna. I understand the need for patience when a team is developing a style or way of playing but I can't subscribe to being content watching professional footballers not being able to do their basic jobs. I went down last night. I paid to watch. I feel scammed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 198bore

The crowd began to get restless when Flint and McGuiness were passing the ball to each other. We're so conditioned to long ball football there seems to be no patience whatsoever. We've been crying out for more possession, well here's what it looks like! next step is to move the ball quicker and pick passes through the lines. The midfield that started last night isn't capable of that, though.

---

With no purpose. It was pointless.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 198bore

The crowd began to get restless when Flint and McGuiness were passing the ball to each other. We're so conditioned to long ball football there seems to be no patience whatsoever. We've been crying out for more possession, well here's what it looks like! next step is to move the ball quicker and pick passes through the lines. The midfield that started last night isn't capable of that, though.

---

They'll need more time with the manager to work on movement, but baby steps eh.


I don't get it, people are happy to lump the ball forward and lose it, which isn't great to watch.
Yet when we keep the ball, OK it wasn't great to watch but we weren't constantly giving the ball to the opposition, so we had possession of the ball and weren't in any danger to concede..fans don't like that? So they are happier to see us lump it forward and lose it than try and hold onto in and use it.

Baffles the brain.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

With no purpose. It was pointless.

---

Give them time.

They've only just started passing the ball they aren't going to be moving around like 1986 ajax off the ball.

It's better than lumping it forward 60 yards and conceding possession and being on the defensive again and again.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

Morison got it completely wrong last night with Pack, Vaulks & Bacuna. The worrying factor is him defending Bacuna. I understand the need for patience when a team is developing a style or way of playing but I can't subscribe to being content watching professional footballers not being able to do their basic jobs. I went down last night. I paid to watch. I feel scammed.

---

Understand the need for patience. Then say you feel scammed at the end.

I am logging out for the day. Jesus wept.

I was there last night and yes there was frustration at the end .

I get we have to wait for a transition and it is not instant ,however what struck me was the lack of movement up front , no position interchanging , no getting to near post quicker , no looking to win a second ball from headed down from Moore , and our strikes / headers on goal were straight and weak to the keeper hands.

With no wrong movement and position in space it slows down the midfielders /defenders options , so they pause and pass back or sideways allowing the opposition to get into better positions , we then miss the opportunity to have the defenders on the back foot attacking at pace which I think is down the due to the lack of intelligent movement and variation of position in the oppositions half and penalty box.

I'm feeling positive overall. I rate Pack. He's slow but he can pass. I do not rate Vaulks at all. Sloppy defending for the goal. But I'm prepared to sacrifice "hard to beat" for "hard to stop". We're not getting relegated. I'm happy to wait.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Understand the need for patience. Then say you feel scammed at the end.

I am logging out for the day. Jesus wept.

---

You need to read my comment again and then maybe it'll make more sense. No need to be a drama queen.

Sounds like we're talking about a junior school football team not a professional football team :hehe:

We're slow in thought and across the grass but for me with the ball it all comes down to movement. We have next to none, first half was painful to see people standing around.

If players made runs, dropped into the space, then even our defenders could potentially find them with simple passes.

You then move the opposition defence around.

Slowly passing it between the cbs and then into the wing back (that has to drop back close to the touchline) who can only go back to the cb isn't really any more technical than what we had before.

2nd half was an improvement.

I don't agree with the boos either but I think it's over the whole season people are tired at seeing us lose at home so easily.

One thing that struck me last night was that a lot of our players didn't want seem to want the ball - whether it's subconsciously or not I don't know. But when we were in possession there was very little movement or space being found.

One exception was Isaak Davies who is probably playing without the baggage that the rest of the team have. The players need to be brave and we need to help out by not jumping on their back so easily.It's often not the layer in possession at fault but the lack of option they have in front of them. All jeering of booing does is increase the likelihood of a rash pass or a hoof upfield.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by PhyllisStant

One thing that struck me last night was that a lot of our players didn't want seem to want the ball - whether it's subconsciously or not I don't know. But when we were in possession there was very little movement or space being found.

One exception was Isaak Davies who is probably playing without the baggage that the rest of the team have. The players need to be brave and we need to help out by not jumping on their back so easily.It's often not the layer in possession at fault but the lack of option they have in front of them. All jeering of booing does is increase the likelihood of a rash pass or a hoof upfield.

---

It was very obvious that most of our players have little confidence in their ability to keep the ball when put under any pressure by the opposition.

Perhaps if had started with Ralls and Collins it may have provided a better platform for the youngsters to come on later in the game , interestingly I thought Collins kept and held the ball better than Moore .

The reality is that we as fans are going to have go through a bit of pain in order to rid ourselves of the utter dross we have witnessed on occasions over the past 4 or 5 years. We may go down and we may struggle for a while, but that's what happens when the club endorses short term fixes and only plan for one season at a time. It was obvious that our style of football would bite us on the arse at some point.

Morison may not be the man to take us forward, who knows. But he deserves some credit for attempting to right the wrongs of the last three managers and the pair of idiots at board level. He's got one hell of a job on. In my opinion he's being brave at a time where we have the weakest squad in 10 years, maybe longer. If he fails in his quest to keep us up then it wont be his fault in my opinion. It'll be down to the shitty club, owner and minions who have no clue how to implement a plan or a philosophy at the club.

I thought the booing was frustration at the poor ref and officials for numerous cock ups throughout the match. Add in 2 disallowed goals and hitting the post in the last minute I think some frustration was expected. Shortly after the whistle the players had a fairly positive reception for a painful loss. Clapped off the pitch and chants of Bluebirds.

I wonder if we'll do better away than at home over the next couple of months. A bit less pressure and fans a more patient?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

I wonder if we'll do better away than at home over the next couple of months. A bit less pressure and fans a more patient?

---

The away fans seem to want to support the team and help them do well, the vibe at home is that the fans DEMAND the team do what they want BRILLIANTLY and it NEEDS to happen NOW or ELSE.

Not a helpful atmosphere for a team low on confidence that's trying to change the way it plays

Problem is we have a lot of fans who want it now. Morison in fairness has had very limited options when you considers the injuries, add to that the players adapting to a new style. It takes time, if some fans think it will happen over night then they need to have a think. Even Swansea this season struggled early on scoring but it eventually clicked but that’s after years of playing that way. It will take time.

I don't buy that at all, the frustration began when the team was announced, with a midfield trio who have consistently underperformed, offer nothing going forward and let's be honest are hardly likely to be here next season
With a midfield of say Sang Bowen and Colwill most fans would have been able to see that changes are happening and give the youngsters time and support to develop .
Fans aren't stupid and by and large have been supportive of the appointment of Morison as head coach, but if he has any ambition of keeping the job on a permanent basis then he has to learn and learn fast.
We're not a project where we are at the moment we're in grave danger of being relegated.
Some if not all of the fault obviously lies with the previous manager but that doesn't excuse the players who have underperformed to the extent that we're in the mess that we are.

Davies up front might or might not work, but every fan is getting behind him as were desperate for him to succeed

What Morison has to realise is that some of the deadwood masquerading as footballers won't give a toss if he's a manager next season or not.

Without pointing the finger at individual players, but would you want to be in a battle with some of these losers on your side?

Gutless, shameless self centred individuals who have lost their bottle and appear happy to go through the motions, because whatever happens they still get their inflated pay cheque at the end of the month.
I didn't boo at the end, but came away thinking the same as I have for the last few months
Why do we start so slowly in the first half?
Why wouldn't we stick with a winning side?
Why have we got such a pedestrian midfield?
Why wouldn't you start with Colwill at number 10 and build a team around him?
Why keep playing 5 at the back?

I really hope that the success that the U23s have had is going to be replicated in time by the first team
In a business that has an 18 month average life cycle for management if I was Morison I'd quickly be looking at that squad and identifying the players that I want to take the club forward and keep me in a job.
Personally I think the fans have been superb at home still turning up and supporting the team

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by olderblue

I don't buy that at all, the frustration began when the team was announced, with a midfield trio who have consistently underperformed, offer nothing going forward and let's be honest are hardly likely to be here next season
With a midfield of say Sang Bowen and Colwill most fans would have been able to see that changes are happening and give the youngsters time and support to develop .
Fans aren't stupid and by and large have been supportive of the appointment of Morison as head coach, but if he has any ambition of keeping the job on a permanent basis then he has to learn and learn fast.
We're not a project where we are at the moment we're in grave danger of being relegated.
Some if not all of the fault obviously lies with the previous manager but that doesn't excuse the players who have underperformed to the extent that we're in the mess that we are.

Davies up front might or might not work, but every fan is getting behind him as were desperate for him to succeed

What Morison has to realise is that some of the deadwood masquerading as footballers won't give a toss if he's a manager next season or not.

Without pointing the finger at individual players, but would you want to be in a battle with some of these losers on your side?

Gutless, shameless self centred individuals who have lost their bottle and appear happy to go through the motions, because whatever happens they still get their inflated pay cheque at the end of the month.
I didn't boo at the end, but came away thinking the same as I have for the last few months
Why do we start so slowly in the first half?
Why wouldn't we stick with a winning side?
Why have we got such a pedestrian midfield?
Why wouldn't you start with Colwill at number 10 and build a team around him?
Why keep playing 5 at the back?

I really hope that the success that the U23s have had is going to be replicated in time by the first team
In a business that has an 18 month average life cycle for management if I was Morison I'd quickly be looking at that squad and identifying the players that I want to take the club forward and keep me in a job.
Personally I think the fans have been superb at home still turning up and supporting the team

---

100% :thumbup:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by olderblue

I don't buy that at all, the frustration began when the team was announced, with a midfield trio who have consistently underperformed, offer nothing going forward and let's be honest are hardly likely to be here next season
With a midfield of say Sang Bowen and Colwill most fans would have been able to see that changes are happening and give the youngsters time and support to develop .
Fans aren't stupid and by and large have been supportive of the appointment of Morison as head coach, but if he has any ambition of keeping the job on a permanent basis then he has to learn and learn fast.
We're not a project where we are at the moment we're in grave danger of being relegated.
Some if not all of the fault obviously lies with the previous manager but that doesn't excuse the players who have underperformed to the extent that we're in the mess that we are.

Davies up front might or might not work, but every fan is getting behind him as were desperate for him to succeed

What Morison has to realise is that some of the deadwood masquerading as footballers won't give a toss if he's a manager next season or not.

Without pointing the finger at individual players, but would you want to be in a battle with some of these losers on your side?

Gutless, shameless self centred individuals who have lost their bottle and appear happy to go through the motions, because whatever happens they still get their inflated pay cheque at the end of the month.
I didn't boo at the end, but came away thinking the same as I have for the last few months
Why do we start so slowly in the first half?
Why wouldn't we stick with a winning side?
Why have we got such a pedestrian midfield?
Why wouldn't you start with Colwill at number 10 and build a team around him?
Why keep playing 5 at the back?

I really hope that the success that the U23s have had is going to be replicated in time by the first team
In a business that has an 18 month average life cycle for management if I was Morison I'd quickly be looking at that squad and identifying the players that I want to take the club forward and keep me in a job.
Personally I think the fans have been superb at home still turning up and supporting the team

---

Nailed it

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by olderblue

I don't buy that at all, the frustration began when the team was announced, with a midfield trio who have consistently underperformed, offer nothing going forward and let's be honest are hardly likely to be here next season
With a midfield of say Sang Bowen and Colwill most fans would have been able to see that changes are happening and give the youngsters time and support to develop .
Fans aren't stupid and by and large have been supportive of the appointment of Morison as head coach, but if he has any ambition of keeping the job on a permanent basis then he has to learn and learn fast.
We're not a project where we are at the moment we're in grave danger of being relegated.
Some if not all of the fault obviously lies with the previous manager but that doesn't excuse the players who have underperformed to the extent that we're in the mess that we are.

Davies up front might or might not work, but every fan is getting behind him as were desperate for him to succeed

What Morison has to realise is that some of the deadwood masquerading as footballers won't give a toss if he's a manager next season or not.

Without pointing the finger at individual players, but would you want to be in a battle with some of these losers on your side?

Gutless, shameless self centred individuals who have lost their bottle and appear happy to go through the motions, because whatever happens they still get their inflated pay cheque at the end of the month.
I didn't boo at the end, but came away thinking the same as I have for the last few months
Why do we start so slowly in the first half?
Why wouldn't we stick with a winning side?
Why have we got such a pedestrian midfield?
Why wouldn't you start with Colwill at number 10 and build a team around him?
Why keep playing 5 at the back?

I really hope that the success that the U23s have had is going to be replicated in time by the first team
In a business that has an 18 month average life cycle for management if I was Morison I'd quickly be looking at that squad and identifying the players that I want to take the club forward and keep me in a job.
Personally I think the fans have been superb at home still turning up and supporting the team

---

Excellent post!

Changed the midfield and not only do we start strongly but we score in the first half.
Colwill starts and scores
Who would have thought it?