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Masks compulsory in shops in England from the 24th July
Two things:
a) Same rule should come in here undoubtedly, even if it helps 5% to get us back to normal quicker it's a very small sacrifice to make
b) Why wait another 10 days? They've made the decision, there's no one who will actually be affected by this rule (i.e goes to shops) who can't get a mask within a maximum of 3 days so why not make them mandatory from, say the 17th? Seems pointless to wait? Especially as, you know, masks were being encouraged 3 months ago
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I agree masks should be made compulsory in shops in Wales. Any small margin should be pursued in a bid to eliminate the coronavirus.
Scotland has already introduced mask wearing in shops with high compliance. Drakeford needs to publish the medical evidence behind his belief that viral transmission is a risk on buses and trains but not in enclosed public spaces like shops.
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If the high street survives all of this i'll be staggered. Been on its arse for years but this entire situation will end it.
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Bank robbers will be happy
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Don't fret. Wales will follow with slight tweaks to demonstrate their independence.
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Vindec
Don't fret. Wales will follow with slight tweaks to demonstrate their independence.
Seems to be the way.
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The council have still done no work at all on this wonderful covered area that they closed off Castle Street for 3 weeks ago.
And now the pubs restaurants and cafes that it was intended for are all open but have nowhere for their customers to sit.
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
Two things:
a) Same rule should come in here undoubtedly, even if it helps 5% to get us back to normal quicker it's a very small sacrifice to make
b) Why wait another 10 days? They've made the decision, there's no one who will actually be affected by this rule (i.e goes to shops) who can't get a mask within a maximum of 3 days so why not make them mandatory from, say the 17th? Seems pointless to wait? Especially as, you know, masks were being encouraged 3 months ago
Agreed, apart from health issues which may prevent someone wearing a mask, I cannot understand why people get so worked up about wearing one.
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xsnaggle
The council have still done no work at all on this wonderful covered area that they closed off Castle Street for 3 weeks ago.
And now the pubs restaurants and cafes that it was intended for are all open but have nowhere for their customers to sit.
Here you go, states July, but not which one :hehe:
https://apple.news/ABawEIU-xTxSjhAYdCbSMzA
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It must have been wonderful having a pint outside during last night’s monsoon. Can’t see the point of pubs opening until it’s safe to open completely not partly.
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BLUETIT
Yes it states 13th July, which was yesterday.
and next week businesses will be able to have customers inside, (Unless Drakeford moves the goal posts) which will make the covered area even more pointless.
I still cannot understand why it has been closed for 3 weeks when nothing has happened.
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xsnaggle
Yes it states 13th July, which was yesterday.
and next week businesses will be able to have customers inside, (Unless Drakeford moves the goal posts) which will make the covered area even more pointless.
I still cannot understand why it has been closed for 3 weeks when nothing has happened.
not everywhere has room for a lot of people inside with social distancing, so with this they can have more customers than they usually would. I agree about not understanding why nothing has happened though
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Der Kaiser
If the high street survives all of this i'll be staggered. Been on its arse for years but this entire situation will end it.
.and everything associated with it,too. Not many people will want to go shopping wearing a muzzle, but the Govt. has succeeded in frightening the population out of all proportion. The missus popped into Peacocks earlier ; the staff were telling her a bloke had just been in with a mask and gloves and wanted to put hand sanitizer on his gloved hands.
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A muzzle, bloody hell :hehe:
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A Quiet Monkfish
.and everything associated with it,too. Not many people will want to go shopping wearing a muzzle, but the Govt. has succeeded in frightening the population out of all proportion. The missus popped into Peacocks earlier ; the staff were telling her a bloke had just been in with a mask and gloves and wanted to put hand sanitizer on his gloved hands.
You have to admit, though, that the declines in countries where mask wearing is mandatory or cultural are a stark contrast to countries where people view wearing a mask as being muzzled.
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Has to happen I posted recently that I've seen a decline in care out and about with distancing and masks , usual stuff its always someone else's fault if it comes back I guess ,what happened to personal responsibility
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CCFCC3PO
You have to admit, though, that the declines in countries where mask wearing is mandatory or cultural are a stark contrast to countries where people view wearing a mask as being muzzled.
Italy and Spain have death rates per 1000 more than 50% higher than the USA, yet Italy & Spain had the most stringent lockdowns than any country and the USA had b*gger all. I honestly think that one can cherry pick stats to suit the argument. Also Korea,Japan are home to a very fastidious population - we're dirty and slovenly by comparison..
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A Quiet Monkfish
Italy and Spain have death rates per 1000 more than 50% higher than the USA, yet Italy & Spain had the most stringent lockdowns than any country and the USA had b*gger all. I honestly think that one can cherry pick stats to suit the argument. Also Korea,Japan are home to a very fastidious population - we're dirty and slovenly by comparison..
Very true..lets be honest must of you lot are fecking filthy :hehe:
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Vindec
Don't fret. Wales will follow with slight tweaks to demonstrate their independence.
What a chance Drakeford had a few weeks ago , he could have ordered this in , and be seen as dynamic decision maker rather than following others in a pretence of independence
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A Quiet Monkfish
Italy and Spain have death rates per 1000 more than 50% higher than the USA, yet Italy & Spain had the most stringent lockdowns than any country and the USA had b*gger all. I honestly think that one can cherry pick stats to suit the argument. Also Korea,Japan are home to a very fastidious population - we're dirty and slovenly by comparison..
I think a lot of society's are far more responsible and disciplined. We just feel comfortable ignoring advise and quickly revert to the blame game .
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When were people not wearing masks allowed in shops?
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Vindec
Don't fret. Wales will follow with slight tweaks to demonstrate their independence.
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
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Wales’ Chief Medical Officer explains his view why masks should be worn on public transport but not in shops https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-made-18592505
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NYCBlue
When were people not wearing masks allowed in shops?
I was born in 1967. I’ve managed to get away with shopping while not wearing a mask so far.
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I’ve been catching the bus home from work on a regular basis since 23rd March, when the lockdown began. I’ve never worn a mask. Seems kind of dumb that I’ve got to start wearing one on the bus on 27th July, especially as the buses are still practically empty.
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The Lone Gunman
I’ve been catching the bus home from work on a regular basis since 23rd March, when the lockdown began. I’ve never worn a mask. Seems kind of dumb that I’ve got to start wearing one on the bus on 27th July, especially as the buses are still practically empty.
I know more about how you get yourself around Cardiff than I do my girlfriend
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The Lone Gunman
I was born in 1967. I’ve managed to get away with shopping while not wearing a mask so far.
So since the start of the Covid 19 outbreak until now masks have not been compulsory in shops?
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It's clear it's going to happen in Wales.
Can anyone recommend any reusable mask?
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A Quiet Monkfish
.and everything associated with it,too. Not many people will want to go shopping wearing a muzzle, but the Govt. has succeeded in frightening the population out of all proportion. The missus popped into Peacocks earlier ; the staff were telling her a bloke had just been in with a mask and gloves and wanted to put hand sanitizer on his gloved hands.
Wise chap, belt and braces stuff! One can't be too careful.
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the other bob wilson
She's always a joy to read, a uniquely mordant humour in my opinion but never fails to provoke both thought and belly laughs simultaneously.
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the other bob wilson
Agreed, apart from health issues which may prevent someone wearing a mask, I cannot understand why people get so worked up about wearing one.
Agree completely, it's a bloody piece of cloth covering your nose and face FFS!; it's not like anyone's insisting you go round shopping with a red hot poker stuffed up your arse! In any case judging by the appearance of many of these Brexity, Red- necked types sulking because they have to wear masks they should embrace wearing them and view them as cosmetic improvements.
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the other bob wilson
Agreed, apart from health issues which may prevent someone wearing a mask, I cannot understand why people get so worked up about wearing one.
it's strangely predictable which people will object to it as well, using the same nonsense arguments that you see over in the states.
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Rjk
it's strangely predictable which people will object to it as well, using the same nonsense arguments that you see over in the states.
Isn't it just.
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A Quiet Monkfish
.and everything associated with it,too. Not many people will want to go shopping wearing a muzzle, but the Govt. has succeeded in frightening the population out of all proportion. The missus popped into Peacocks earlier ; the staff were telling her a bloke had just been in with a mask and gloves and wanted to put hand sanitizer on his gloved hands.
I think the tens of thousands who have died of the virus probably persuaded me to wear a mask and gloves when I go shopping more than anything the Government came out with.
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NYCBlue
So since the start of the Covid 19 outbreak until now masks have not been compulsory in shops?
They are not compulsory. I was skeptical about their benefits, especially after seeing people dumping their used ones in trolleys at supermarkets. Since their use is supposed to prevent the wearer transmitting the virus onto others (asymptomatic), rather than protecting the wearer, it is a bit filthy to see people dumping gloves and masks after use. I have, though, changed my mind based on some limited scientific studies and, of course, public sentiment. If people feel more comfortable going out in public and spending money to revive the economy because most are wearing masks, then I'll wear a mask for that reason alone. Add in the recent scientific studies, and it is a no-brainer.
As for not wearing a mask since 1967 whilst shopping, well I think this is the first pandemic to hit the UK in all that time, so wearing a mask between 1967 and 2020 was not necessary.
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NYCBlue
So since the start of the Covid 19 outbreak until now masks have not been compulsory in shops?
You are correct. Masks have not been compulsory in shops in England. However, they become compulsory on Friday July 24th.
They've not been compulsory in shops in Wales either and it's not certain that they ever will be.
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delmbox
I know more about how you get yourself around Cardiff than I do my girlfriend
As far as I understand it, from 27th July I'll only be able to get on a bus containing a handful of people if I'm wearing as mask. However, when I reach Cardiff city centre, I'll be able to get off the bus, take off my mask and walk into any shop I want.
Sounds sensible and consistent. I think the Welsh government have got this nailed.
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The Welsh Government should say they’re going to follow WHO advice and mandate the wearing of masks in shops and on public transport. This simple message makes perfect sense to most people and may have some benefit reducing virus transmission. It would also give more people a greater sense of protection and confidence to go out.
Decisions like this undermine public trust in the Welsh Government. Is it following the science or just more interested in trying to be different from England?
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Rjk
it's strangely predictable which people will object to it as well, using the same nonsense arguments that you see over in the states.
And inevitably most of the people who are kicking up such a stink about wearing a mask are the ones who bang on about WW2 and the sacrifices made and the "spirit"