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Chester mo!Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
It is in England, so it’s an English Club. End of.
The pitch and stands are in Wales and therefore Welsh law applies, North Wales police need to arrest people if they break Welsh covid laws on Welsh territory.
They would have to arrest members of Cheshire constabulary then who were in attendance at the games wouldn't they ?Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
If the English police are breaking the law of the land they will have to be arrested by the Welsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
As I understand it both forces go over the border to carry out their business so there should be no issue, no fans should be allowed in the ground which is in Wales, turnstiles locked and if they start congregating outside in the car park the English police can keep law and order out there, if any get into the ground then the Welsh police should deal with them.
trampie, you really are a star. You always appear at just the right moments :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
If WAG have considered them to be an english club previously when it came to claiming financial assistance, then I think they have every right to tell WAG to feck off.
It doesn't matter if the Welsh consider them to be Martians, it's Welsh land and therefore it should be Welsh rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by cityhammer
WAG cant have it both ways, if they've already decided they are english for the sake of financial assistance they can't now decide they are welsh! which bit of that do you not understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
It's Welsh land what bit of its Welsh land don't you understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by cityhammer
Logic would indicate that you would first need to understand that the registered offices are in England, policing at the ground is carried out by English police, that even the whole of the pitch isn't in Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
Granted it's difficult for a Jack like you, regarded as a laughing stock on your own clubs forums, to understand but WG cannot pick and choose when they decide Chester may or may not be Welsh for political reasons.
Police may "investigate" but nothing will be done.`
With tongue firmly in cheek ,seeing as we are registered as a company and football club in England and Wales let the club invoke the English bit and open up to all.:hehe:
The whole of the pitch is in Wales and all the stands where the spectators watch from is in Wales, the WG can't pick and choose because Welsh rules should apply to Welsh land and the entire playing surface as well and the stands are in Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Hear hear! It's imaginary dotted lines on a map that matter in cases like this, not reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
Bit confusing this innit. TNS are based in Oswestry, Shopshire but in their case playing in Cymru Premier means they have to follow Wales' Covid rules.
'THE New Saints FC will have to adhere to Welsh regulation with regards to fans returning to stadiums, despite their stadium being situated in England....But the Welsh Government has stated TNS must follow their rules, in accordance with the other teams in the Welsh leagues."
A Welsh Government spokesperson, said: “The coronavirus regulations are relevant in the country in which the activity takes place. The Football Association of Wales manages the Cymru Premier league and TNS would need to make sure they comply with the specific league rules and regulations too.”
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Logic would indicate that could lead to EUFA sanctions against the LoW as it indicates clear political intervention in the running of a club within the league structure, contrary to EUFA regulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
That is just poor journalism, what the WG spokesman was quoted as saying (at the time) seems correct, the papers spin/interpretation does not seem correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Logic would indicate it's a direct quote and that blaming spin/interpretation is a deflection tactic.Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
"The coronavirus regulations are relevant in the country in which the activity takes place. The Football Association of Wales manages the Cymru Premier league and TNS would need to make sure they comply with the specific league rules and regulations too.
Key points :-
Coronavirus regulations relevant in the country in which the activity takes place. Chester FC is a registered English club where policing at games is performed by English police, nor Welsh. The registered offices are in England.
The second part of the quote is irrelevant; these was WG rules not FAW league rules and regulations.
it's clear political interference with a club.
If the activity takes place in Wales, Welsh rules apply.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Logic would indicate yet again you fail to grasp the nuances.Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
If the activity takes place in Wales, then the sporting event is regulated by Welsh police. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN FOR CHESTER FC GAMES they are managed by English police, something you fail to understand. During previous lockdowns, Chester abided by English rules and Dripford said precisely zero.
Now, if "Welsh rules apply for activities in Wales" then your argument fails to explain TNS where WG are demanding *their* rules apply when activities take place in England.
I can see why your fellow Jack fans mock you relentlessly.
They don't demand their rules apply to TNS, TNS (for now) choose to follow WG rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Logic would be wise to aim to be a bit less sanctimonious when logic doesn't recognise that the European football governing body is called UEFA - not "EUFA".Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
It was mentioned on BBC Wales news this morning that Chester fc would qualify for Welsh financial assistance.