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The Lancet fully retracts flawed Hydroxychloroquine scientific study
Bad news for all the Hydroxychloroquine haters on here :biggrin:
https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/art...40673620313246
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And where's the evidence it is an effective therapy? Trump's musings?
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""Lancet paper that halted hydroxychloroquine trials was retracted after a Guardian investigation
The Guardian’s Sarah Boseley and Melissa Davey write:
The Lancet paper that halted global trials of hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 because of fears of increased deaths has been retracted after a Guardian investigation found inconsistencies in the data.
The lead author, Prof Mandeep Mehra, from the Brigham and Women’s hospital in Boston, Massachusetts decided to ask the Lancet for the retraction because he could no longer vouch for the data’s accuracy.
The journal’s editor, Richard Horton, said he was appalled by developments. “This is a shocking example of research misconduct in the middle of a global health emergency,” he told the Guardian.
A Guardian investigation had revealed errors in the data that was provided for the research by US company Surgisphere. These were later explained by the company as some patients being wrongly allocated to Australia instead of Asia. But more anomalies were then picked up. A further Guardian investigation found that there were serious questions to be asked about the company itself.
An independent audit company was asked to examine a database provided by Surgisphere to ensure it had the data from more than 96,000 Covid-19 patients in 671 hospitals worldwide, that it was obtained properly and was accurate.
The Lancet study had a dramatic impact on attempts to find out whether the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, and its older version, chloroquine, could help treat patients with Covid-19. The US president, Donald Trump was among those who backed the drug before any high-quality trial evidence had been published.
The World Health Organization and several countries suspended randomised controlled trials that were set up to find an answer. Those trials have now been restarted. Many scientists were angry that they had been stopped on the basis of a trial that was observational and not a “gold standard” RCT."
Let's see what these other trials say, this isn't an admission that the drug can be used as Trump says it can.
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Wales-Bales
You have misread the article, and misinterpreted its impact.
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What's the big deal? Scientific publication sticks to the science and does an about turn ASAP. It happens. Meanwhile, Trump still says it's a cure for Covid-19 with no evidence to back it up.
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Bad news for President Trump and Wales-Bales.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52937153
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Wales-Bales
What do the exerts know about anything , it could be that it will become part of a cocktail of treatments based on who or what helps you as an individual its strange how people react to hope based on their politics and hatred ??
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life on mars
What do the exerts know about anything , it could be that it will become part of a cocktail of treatments based on who or what helps you as an individual its strange how people react to hope based on their politics and hatred ??
It's not in the least bit strange how people react to dangerous, ill-informed twats.
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The Lone Gunman
It's not in the least bit strange how people react to dangerous, ill-informed twats.
Just leave it to the scientists is my best advise .
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life on mars
Just leave it to the scientists is my best advise .
You mean experts? Leave it to the experts? Have you gone MAD?!?
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life on mars
What do the exerts know about anything , it could be that it will become part of a cocktail of treatments based on who or what helps you as an individual its strange how people react to hope based on their politics and hatred ??
It's the experts who will do the treatment.
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life on mars
What do the exerts know about anything , it could be that it will become part of a cocktail of treatments based on who or what helps you as an individual its strange how people react to hope based on their politics and hatred ??
This question is key to the ****ing mess the world is in. Look up the word "expert" in the dictionary.
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lardy
It's the experts who will do the treatment.
It's brave people who will test any drug including this one , its been considered and used by many experts in tests around the world long before Trump spoke out , if as it seems it won't work we move onto other drugs , why apply politics to efforts to seek a solution ???
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NYCBlue
This question is key to the ****ing mess the world is in. Look up the word "expert" in the dictionary.
Trouble is there's way too many experts on CCMB and we need to lend them out to the outside world to put things right .
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An Ex is a has-been and a spurt is a drip under pressure. :getscoat:
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People were quoting the news stories that were based on the original Lancet publication to score points, which has now been fully retracted!
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More bad news for fans of Doctor Trump. Turns out he might as well have been advocating Dolly Mixtures.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53054476
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The Lone Gunman
Trump proudly said he was taking the drug but I'm not sure he's a good advert for it. At the weekend he couldn't hold a glass of water with one hand or walk down a ramp without help.
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The Lone Gunman
You are starting to make lardy & cyril look clever :hehe:
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life on mars
What do the exerts know about anything
This sums up the world right now, people off the internet with no knowledge whatsoever beyond reading a few websites dismissing people who've spent years, decades, their entire working life learning and studying subjects with "what do the experts know about anything"
You can't even spell experts ffs :facepalm:
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delmbox
This sums up the world right now, people off the internet with no knowledge whatsoever beyond reading a few websites dismissing people who've spent years, decades, their entire working life learning and studying subjects with "what do the experts know about anything"
You can't even spell experts ffs :facepalm:
The are experts and there are political hacks, can you tell the difference?
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Wales-Bales
You are starting to make lardy & cyril look clever :hehe:
Nothing you do or have ever done makes you look clever.
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Wales-Bales
The are experts and there are political hacks, can you tell the difference?
Well if life on mars was trying to write "political hacks" he f**ked up the spelling even worse than I thought
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The Lone Gunman
Nothing you do or have ever done makes you look clever.
I like it when you get all authoritative :biggrin:
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delmbox
Well if life on mars was trying to write "political hacks" he f**ked up the spelling even worse than I thought
:hehe: