Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
No I know that, but I mean it points to something that is not entirely a practical pursuit - like a coffee shop in a town centre is there for people who are shopping as a leisure pursuit, so too does a cafe in a supermarket.
I just think we all benefit from human social interaction and we risk endlessly reducing these at our peril.
I think people should limit their human interactions to arguing on message boards. :getscoat:
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
Since the dawn of time man has been using his ingenuity to create labour saving devices. This is not new. We're seeing a repeat of weaver smashers and Luddites. We need to embrace technology not rail against it.
Unless you live a pastoral existence sleeping in a self-made mud hut, you're part of the perceived technological problem so can't really complain. The irony of using a labour saving device like a pc to comment on the failings of technology is beyond some people's comprehension.
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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Originally Posted by
DryCleaning
Since the dawn of time man has been using his ingenuity to create labour saving devices. This is not new. We're seeing a repeat of weaver smashers and Luddites. We need to embrace technology not rail against it.
Unless you live a pastoral existence sleeping in a self-made mud hut, you're part of the perceived technological problem so can't really complain. The irony of using a labour saving device like a pc to comment on the failings of technology is beyond some people's comprehension.
You are just the sort of person I am looking for - to be my virtual lover.
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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Originally Posted by
DryCleaning
Since the dawn of time man has been using his ingenuity to create labour saving devices. This is not new. We're seeing a repeat of weaver smashers and Luddites. We need to embrace technology not rail against it.
Unless you live a pastoral existence sleeping in a self-made mud hut, you're part of the perceived technological problem so can't really complain. The irony of using a labour saving device like a pc to comment on the failings of technology is beyond some people's comprehension.
It has to be sensible technology advancements though. Also, there's a good argument to say that life my be worst now than in the past. This slavish devotion to progression is robbing us of tradition and what is important.
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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Lither_1927
It has to be sensible technology advancements though. Also, there's a good argument to say that life my be worst now than in the past. This slavish devotion to progression is robbing us of tradition and what is important.
I think that the last two years have shown some of us that we need to spend more time with other people and/or nature rather than be obsessed with 'stuff' and being stuck on a hamster wheel, if at all possible. 'Tradition' is a moving feast and not all tradition is good. Religion, royalty and being caned regularly at school were traditions when I was a kid. As individuals, we should decide what is important ourselves and perhaps we should be out there spreading the love to all and sundry rather than typing away on CCMB* :-)
*Sorry, Boss!
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
I visited a Tesco Extra last week and immediately noticed the self-service area had been massively expanded while tills with humanoids checking out had shrunk to six.
This is the type of 'progress' that'll see us eating grasshopper sandwiches served by robots.
think Greta wants a word in your ear lobe morgs !
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Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
so after all those replys seems like only Jon and I have signed
Automatic for the people eh :oh:
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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life on mars
Stop right there ,: much of the world Is a victim to perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance, historical negationism, and propaganda.
Human nature is controlled and to love is to fear the torture and threats from the Party.
Love is betrayal and human nature is to fight against this betrayal.
War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.
Finally you post something where I understand your credo!
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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Taunton Blue Genie
But why should supermarkets fill the human void? Why not go down to your local tyrefitter for a natter? Or call up an electrician? Or pop around to the nearest accountant for a chinwag?
I am genuinely confused about this post, and many other in this thread.
The issue is not about having more humans at check out tills so customers can have a natter. It's not about the value of human contact and resisting technology. The petition was about asking Tesco to backtrack a bit and have more staffed checkouts and fewer self service - with the direction of travel being all self-service. This was because Pat argued many older or disable people (customers in Tesco speak) cannot cope without human help and assistance. It was about shifting the balance back towards people. Although I'm sure a natter while trying to scan a digital club card would be welcome!
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
For me the thread quite rightly expanded into the bigger issue of automation v profit v jobs a popular socialist argument , as a society we are walking into a world where these traditional jobs that youngsters would take up , as a first step on the earnings ladder , I am also shocked at those who fear identity cards are happy to won club cards are other tagged identity items .
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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MOZZER2
so after all those replys seems like only Jon and I have signed
Automatic for the people eh :oh:
Your problem is you don't care about the men and women who make the self service tills
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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MOZZER2
so after all those replys seems like only Jon and I have signed
Automatic for the people eh :oh:
No your not the only ones at 224,319 have signed. now need 300k by tonight
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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life on mars
No your not the only ones at 224,319 have signed. now need 300k by tonight
I think he probably means CCMB members who make themselves known 👍
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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Dorcus
I think he probably means CCMB members who make themselves known
Is it a Tesco Multi-buy?
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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cyril evans awaydays
Is it a Tesco Multi-buy?
Could be, Blue Matt is the expert on Multis, isn't he?
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
Automation is going to come to more and more walks of life in the coming decades, so governments need to find a way to ensure that the benefits are shared by ALL and not just those at the top.
We can't just let it mean greater profits for mega corporations, that they squirrel away into some tax haven. Im not against automation at all, but it should be to the benefit of everyone.
What if we get to the point that all driving is automated, all shops can run without any staff, Doctors, Surgeons, and so many other walks of life no longer need the same level of human input?
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
"Send these in to eliminate the excess population." Will that be a quote from Klaus Schwab in the not too distant future?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
No
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
On the other hand, many employers are scratching around for workers in lower paid jobs and we moan when announcements are made regarding problems due to staff shortages and illness. As for the comment "I love chatting with the staff, albeit briefly, especially as l live on my own. Talking with human staff is important to me. Now that experience has been taken away": one can sympathise but supermarkets are not part of social services.
I have just come back from Asda where there about 30 tills on the go. Had most of them (rather than few of them) been manned, it would represent a financial burden to the employer (which would affect prices, no doubt) and I doubt that they could man 30 tills with staff on a Tuesday morning even if they wanted to.
Was there a need for thirty tills on a Tuesday morning?
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
Question on everyone lips will supermarket tills one day take industrial action
Re: Stop the Replacement of People By Machines -Tesco
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life on mars
Question on everyone lips will supermarket tills one day take industrial action
It'll be a long time till that happens.