[QUOTE=Heathblue;5487330]You are becoming more and more of a miserable right wing old fool by the dayQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You should take the place of quentin letts in the daily mail
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[QUOTE=Heathblue;5487330]You are becoming more and more of a miserable right wing old fool by the dayQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You should take the place of quentin letts in the daily mail
[QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;5487350]You do spend time with Tories, as for sticking pins in your bollocks that is probably the only form of gratification you get, and you love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
[QUOTE=pipster;5487358]Who ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Name em
I don't associate with any Tories
Yet another thread that descends into the level of the infants school playground.
The Tories started it first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
[QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;5487351]Right wingQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Daily mail
Farrrrrrrr rigghhhhhht
If i was any of these, it's because of the farrrrrrr left, crime apologists, rape, & child molesting perverts that you seem to gravitate towards, Just **** off, leave it there, I'll not bother you again & please do not bother me again.
[QUOTE=Heathblue;5487414][QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;5487351]
Right wing
Daily mail
Farrrrrrrr rigghhhhhht
If i was any of these, it's because of the farrrrrrr left, crime apologists, rape, & child molesting perverts that you seem to gravitate towards, Just **** off, leave it there, I'll not bother you again & please do not bother me
Child molesting perverts? you silly old fart go to bed
In case you wondered, 290 mines closed under Wilson in all his time in office, and about 160 under Thatcher. :wave:
And your point is?Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Earlier up the thread you claimed this (Wilson closed more pits than Thatcher) would spoil someone's narrative. It doesn't.
I don't recognise the pit closure figures you quote (they seem to be a bit inflated for both Wilson and Thatcher) but no one disputes Wilson 'closed more pits' (although not as many as McMillan).
The point is Wilson closed pits because the world was moving from coal to oil and gas - for domestic heating as well as shipping and a large part of energy generation. Where coal was still needed (increasingly not the high quality coal of the South Wales field) it was starting to be offered much more cheaply from eastern Europe and China.
In some cases coalfield production was picked up by more efficient adjacent pits in better locations (and the jobs moved there) and in a few cases whole new pits were opened. But generally decisions on pit closures were made on economic or technical grounds and in the context of the international energy market.
Thatchers pit closure programme was not driven by those factors. It wasn't at the time primarily economic (there may have been more of a case for that 10 years later) and it certainly wasn't what the Tory press comically now describe as her green agenda. It was a programme of political destruction aimed at crushing the NUM, their families and their communities - and a TOBW said above, was a decade in the planning.
So your point is......?
My point is a there is no difference between a pit being closed under Wilson than there was under Thatcher (you seem to think there was). A closed pit is a closed pit, except that Wilson did more of them than Thatcher.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I can recall the Conservatives effective “Britain isn’t working” poster from the 1979 election, but the “We’ll close less mines than Labour” one escapes me for the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
You slip on the ice and bang your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Someone mugs you and kicks you unconscious as you lie on the ground.
A bang on the head is a bang on the head. No difference!
Thank you for that.
Your point is bollocksQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Thatcher closed pits for political reasons
Which is why she stockpiled loads of coal before the strike started
If we didn't need the coal .....which she said we didn't......why did we have people starving on picket lines because the government had decided that coal wasn't wanted......yet loads shipped in via Hull kept industry going
You are a clown