Qatar fails to offer World Cup safety guarantees to LGBTQ+ fans

https://www.theguardian.com/football...-to-lgbtq-fans



Qatar fails to offer World Cup safety guarantees to LGBTQ+ fans
Organisers say all welcome but leave questions unanswered
Advocacy groups believe LGBTQ+ fans will be at risk in Qatar

Up to you footballers / governments now make the almighty real social justice gesture and don't go

If I were a member of the LGBT community, I’d steer well clear. The fact they have those laws, even if they are “suspended” is an insult to human decency.

Money rules and that’s why it’s in that despicable country.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

https://www.theguardian.com/football...-to-lgbtq-fans



Qatar fails to offer World Cup safety guarantees to LGBTQ+ fans
Organisers say all welcome but leave questions unanswered
Advocacy groups believe LGBTQ+ fans will be at risk in Qatar

Up to you footballers / governments now make the almighty real social justice gesture and don't go

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In fairness LOM, your stance on this one is admirable and you've consistently been vocal about your opposition to this WC which I 100% agree with (your opposition, not the WC obviously).

I particularly winced at FIFA's comment “Fans interested in an unforgettable trip of a lifetime to Qatar.... Let's hope that it's not a lifetime in a Qatari prison.

The fact that football even allowed a bid from this country and Russia whose record on these matters and others of basic freedoms and rights is bewildering .

Image the powerful message FIFA could have sent by deploying an application process for any country based on a set of agreed standards of human rights , football would easily exist financially beyond any world cup boycott ..

We still have time to move it , many countries who have the logistic access , stadiums , and supporting infrastructures .

I think Wales should be the first team to Boycott the WC - what a great message from a little country that would be.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

The fact that football even allowed a bid from this country and Russia whose record on these matters and others of basic freedoms and rights is bewildering .

Image the powerful message FIFA could have sent by deploying an application process for any country based on a set of agreed standards of human rights , football would easily exist financially beyond any world cup boycott ..

We still have time to move it , many countries who have the logistic access , stadiums , and supporting infrastructures .

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Was it you who said the millions of euros that the former Qatari Prime Minister deposited in a few Fortnum and Mason bags and handed them to the heir to the throne was ok because the heir to the throne does good charities so that's ok.

I hope not. Because your latest attempt to climb on some bizarre attempt to be moralistic. given your back catalogue would look even more bewildering.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

I think Wales should be the first team to Boycott the WC - what a great message from a little country that would be.

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I’d back that 100%, some things are bigger than football.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Was it you who said the millions of euros that the former Qatari Prime Minister deposited in a few Fortnum and Mason bags and handed them to the heir to the throne was ok because the heir to the throne does good charities so that's ok.

I hope not. Because your latest attempt to climb on some bizarre attempt to be moralistic. given your back catalogue would look even more bewildering.

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Some people are too dopey to realise that they are dopey.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

The fact that football even allowed a bid from this country and Russia whose record on these matters and others of basic freedoms and rights is bewildering .

Image the powerful message FIFA could have sent by deploying an application process for any country based on a set of agreed standards of human rights , football would easily exist financially beyond any world cup boycott ..

We still have time to move it , many countries who have the logistic access , stadiums , and supporting infrastructures .

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yes! it is surprising considering FIFA's track record on being an open and honest org. I'm in shock

The USA could well be a fascist country by 2026, it’s far from a fantasy.

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

I’d back that 100%, some things are bigger than football.

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Same

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Was it you who said the millions of euros that the former Qatari Prime Minister deposited in a few Fortnum and Mason bags and handed them to the heir to the throne was ok because the heir to the throne does good charities so that's ok.

I hope not. Because your latest attempt to climb on some bizarre attempt to be moralistic. given your back catalogue would look even more bewildering.

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Yes, there are inconsistencies but we should praise the good stuff.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

I think Wales should be the first team to Boycott the WC - what a great message from a little country that would be.

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Yep tell em to shove it

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Yep tell em to shove it

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Not going to happen.

At best there will be token statements and then the jamboree will continue unhindered.

I would truly be amazed if any team actually pulled out of this event.

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Originally Posted by Majorblue

Not going to happen.

At best there will be token statements and then the jamboree will continue unhindered.

I would truly be amazed if any team actually pulled out of this event.

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You’re right, but it’s sad that money and virtue signalling are prioritised above real, practical action.

Cmon WOL - Get a campaign going and lets gauge the feeling of the nation and players.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

Cmon WOL - Get a campaign going and lets gauge the feeling of the nation and players.

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I would hazard a guess that the players views will be coached by PR companies briefed with FAW/FIFA rules and regs.

Obviously no country will boycott and only a handful of fans will. It does highlight footballs rank hypocrisy though.

That said, it's a global game and like it or not, the median global position on gay rights is probably as close to Qatars as it is ours. I hope there are modest protests that don't spill over, so that Qatar can learn what it needs to do before any legal changes occur - ie, that it has nothing to fear.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Obviously no country will boycott and only a handful of fans will. It does highlight footballs rank hypocrisy though.

That said, it's a global game and like it or not, the median global position on gay rights is probably as close to Qatars as it is ours. I hope there are modest protests that don't spill over, so that Qatar can learn what it needs to do before any legal changes occur - ie, that it has nothing to fear.

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There's more to this though than just the gay rights, the skulduggery that surrounded the hosts bid and the loss of life and modern day slavery that's been reported of the building of the stadiums.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

There's more to this though than just the gay rights, the skulduggery that surrounded the hosts bid and the loss of life and modern day slavery that's been reported of the building of the stadiums.

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I agree. I think it's absurd Qatar is hosting it. Aside from anything else, it completely fails the test of being large enough to do so, before anything else.

Agree with you as well - but the thread title is about LGBT issues.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Obviously no country will boycott and only a handful of fans will. It does highlight footballs rank hypocrisy though.

That said, it's a global game and like it or not, the median global position on gay rights is probably as close to Qatars as it is ours. I hope there are modest protests that don't spill over, so that Qatar can learn what it needs to do before any legal changes occur - ie, that it has nothing to fear.

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Youd have to be pretty brave to protest.