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Says he ......really understands .....those struggling on universal credit regarding the 20 pound cap
Course he does
Bet he's driving vans full of tins of beans and corned beef to the local food bank every Sunday morning
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Says he ......really understands .....those struggling on universal credit regarding the 20 pound cap
Course he does
Bet he's driving vans full of tins of beans and corned beef to the local food bank every Sunday morning
Enough to win the vote in Hartlepool. Brexit done and food banks in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
We are feckin doomed.
Those poor bastards are going to stuffedQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
When I see that smarmy tosser on BBC Breakfast with his Union Jack flag behind him together with his red briefcase open with files poking out, but it hasn't moved for the last year, it just proves how full of shite this lot are.
Got to say I don't like him, but not because he leaves his briefcase open and has a flag in the background..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish.
What do you want him to say? He says he understands.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
What do you want him to do? The welfare bill in the UK has never been more generous, especially considering furlough
Genuinely now, to distinguish this from just being a hate-filled post, what do you want?
What do you want a government to do, I’ll tell you what! Look after the most vulnerable in society not tax them to the hilt whilst food prices, gas and every other bill is going up. Have a look around you, the country is absolutely fecked.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I don't want a lying twat like Grant Schapps anywhere near a position of power in the government of the country I live in.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...keter-while-mp
Disclaimer: I've had a few!
Apart perhaps from Attlee's 1945 government, which party of either persuasion has ever looked after the most vulnerable satisfactorily? Taxing the to the hilt is slightly over the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
I agree that the should do something to lessen the effect of removing the £20 temporary increase in Universal Credit either by making it permanent or adjusting it in some way ( the taper possibly)
Look at poverty rates since the tories have come to power, look at wages compared to other countries over the past 10 years, look at housing,energy and food costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
We want a government that actually helps the average person and not just their billionaire mates. We want them to actually act and not just say they care (they obviously don't give a shit).
I'd love to see you try and explain how the welfare bill has never been more generous. The whole country is ****ed.
Pennies;
In 2020/21 the UK government is expected to spend approximately 212 billion British pounds on benefits, an increase of over 20 million pounds when compared with the previous .
Plus 400 billion Covid cost .
Brexit Brexit Brexit...................
One food bank is one too many
Fuel prices going through the roof
No trade deals
NHS on its knees £350 million a week
Lack of petrol, food, basically anything imported being blamed on the lack of lorry drivers is laughable
Country is on its knees but hang on let's take that £20 a week off everyone that maybe needs it
Feck um should be their new campaign slogan ................
Yet some will think they are talking about someone else .....
Until it starts and will start affecting them
Food Banks are nothing to do with BrexitQuote:
Originally Posted by Its been emotional
Fuel prices aren't Brexit
There have been Trade deals but to be fair they have mainly been continuations of the ones other countries had with the EU. And their value hasn't to date been massive.
NHS has had more money with more to come. It is never enough, however.
What lack of petrol. Are you saying that Brexit has affected the supply of petrol coming in to the country?
I agree that decreasing Universal Credit by £20would be a mistake
You left out the effect Brexit has had on the Bluebirds form .Quote:
Originally Posted by Its been emotional
I would have thought that given your struggles you wouldn't continue to vote for these arseholesQuote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
But you do
I find it staggering
You are like a turkey voting for Xmas
How can a privileged public school boy understand ?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
You don't seriously believe he does do you ?
The welfare bill is high because there are increasing numbers of people reliant on it !
The Tories are not paying out benefits because they are nice people they are doing it because if they don't people will starve to death . Cutting 20 quid from universal credit is disgusting
Do you think it's OK?
Do you rely on any benefits ?
If you did would you miss 80 quid a month ?
I want the tossers to look after the vulnerable , that's what civilised society does .
But this lot cut 20 quid off universal credit
It clearly doesn't affect you though so carry on tory boy
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Yes I did have problems with The Governments stupid PIP assessment system.
But as I have said many times which party brought the assessments in?
And which party first brought in the idea of assessing everyone rather than a random sample when they brought ESA in?
Labour
I had to vote against Corbyn, but if there was an election now I would probably abstain
Both Starmer and Johnston need to do more to get my vote.
Johnston to stop some of the silly mistakes like the free school meal debacle and the returning of Universal Credit to its pre pandemic level.
Starmer because I am still not sure what his policies will be. I didn't want Corbyn, but not sure I want Blair mark 2 either
UnbelievableQuote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
You didn't like corbyn so you voted for Boris, in other words you voted tory as you always have
Yet you are a victim of PIP.......Tories.......and a victim of the social care system ......guess who privatised that ? Your lot
Yet you still vote for them
You are indeed a turkey voting for Christmas
Good luck
I haven't always voted tory.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You,sir are a purveyor of untruths
And funny how you made no response when I pointed out that It was Labour who first brought in the assessment system used for PIP when they used it on a random basis for PIP then widened it to be used for everyone under ESA.
I had to renew our DLA back in 2007 when Labour had been in power for 10 years and believe me there were many stories of those who had suffered with poorly conducted DLA random reviews.
Yet they still went ahead and made the assessment system mandatory for ESA which opened the door for the tories to do the same when they changed DLA to PIP.
I have raised this before in posts but you never seem to reply.
But of course Labour are so wonderful are they Sludge.
And why is it unbelievable that I voted Tory to stop Corbyn. Many voters who had never voted Tory did the same because they also wanted to stop him.
Our political system leaves us little choice.
Labour showed the wind. They reaped the whirlwind
Life expectancy was going down under the Conservatives pre Covid. That should be enough for anyone to vote for someone else because it tells you all you need to know about the inequalities of life in this country in the twenty first century under their power.
Where did you get these figures from Bob?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I have found a Guardian article from 2019 which mentions iti
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...by-five-months
but I have also found a Kings Fund article which is at first glance a bit different although there is a mass of data in there which would take a lot of time to go through.
Obviously you are blaming austerity and I am sure that is a factor, although the Kings Fund article suggests it is far more complex than that.
And before you jump to one of your erroneous assumptions which you have been so fond of doing of late no I am not saying that austerity has nothing to do with it and that the Conservative government has nothing to do with it that is not what I am saying
Juts that your short paragraph is really a bit too simplistic. The subject is far too complex than just a couple of sound bites
I missed out the Kings Fund article on my post above
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publica...ctancy-england
I also realise that my last but one paragraph is clumsily phrased and repetitive I meant to change it before posting, but I was too late to edit it. I think the sense of what I meant is there though.
Indeed especially when you look at things like weather impacts , consumption of alcohol and drugs, obesity ( whe are one of the best at these poor health habits ) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
The Tories are not in charge In Scotland and Glasgow has some horrendous life expectancy figures ( their winters are tough for the elderly as well, again not a Tory issue)
Talk about desperate. Are you seriously suggesting that “weather impacts”, consumption of alcohol and drugs and obesity only started happening after the Tories won in 2010? Was Scotland a picture of perfect health before 2010?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I am saying that consumption of alcohol and drugs and obesity plays a huge part in life expectancy , and those habits have increased over the last 5 years , you can't just we to point in one political direction , whats your answer to increasing one life expectancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson