FT: AFC BOURNEMOUTH 3 - 0 CARDIFF CITY.

Harsh comments on Davies.

We’ve called Watters back, how about Wintle?!

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Bacuna could have pulled him back by his shirt and got a yellow at most, but City have been 'getting' at Bournemouth from the 1st 30 seconds, aka Vaulks, and Bacuna's choice of tackle was probably aimed at keeping things boiling over..

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I can’t stand the professional foul and always think that a yellow card is insufficient punishment but…….in this instance you are dead right. Why didn’t Bacuna just trip Billing or pull his shirt to stop him, instead of trying to cut him in half?


And Vaulks had been winding the opposition up from the very first minute…..

The best thing about the game tonight: £1 for the car park.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

I think perhaps that everyone should read the whole interview with the manager on Wales Online before jumping on the bandwagon of criticism. He was frank, yes but also quite complimentary about Davies’s ability and contribution made in other games. Morison has been nothing but excellent in relation to his bringing on and handling of our young players so far, so doesn't deserve the mock indignation being aimed at him by some.

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That is utter garbage.

He added: "But he has had really good moments for us so far."

That hardly makes his absolute demolition of Davies any better.

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Originally Posted by Trigger

"It's harsh, not nice, lots of people will say I only did it because he's a young lad. Ultimately, I did it because he wasn't good enough in that moment today.

"But he has had really good moments for us so far."

Some balance to his comments. I can only assume he says the same to them in person.

They were all piss poor.

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Sounds like he was talking to the press saying the same thing he did to his players, these are professional athletes, they know when they have had a crap game, the manager knows and the fans know, no point in sugar coating it

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Originally Posted by blue matt

Sounds like he was talking to the press saying the same thing he did to his players, these are professional athletes, they know when they have had a crap game, the manager knows and the fans know, no point in sugar coating it

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He needs to be careful though. When all is said and done, he needs most of those players to be on side with him. If he criticises too heavily in Public then he could have a problem on his hands.

I thought Davies was meant to be rapid. I may have the wrong youngster but he was well off the pace. I may have been hoping for too much from him with only 10 though. Calling him out after was extremely harsh. Its he wasn't doing what the manager wanted keep it in the dressing room.
Felt very sorry for Harris he was putting a good shift in and never stops running (sadly a bit limited when he gets it mind)

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Originally Posted by blue matt

Sounds like he was talking to the press saying the same thing he did to his players, these are professional athletes, they know when they have had a crap game, the manager knows and the fans know, no point in sugar coating it

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Isn't sugar coating a performance what most managers do all the time? Fans can see we're ponderous and can't pass but this is never mentioned in a press conference. There are ways and means of saying a player has had a bad game and managers have been doing it for years.

disgraceful challenge. Fine him massively

Morison humiliates Issac Davies in public but hardly says anything about Bacuna in his after match interview. Morison till the end of the season for me.

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

I think we have players better suited to a back 5 with wingbacks than a flat back four. NG and Giles as fullbacks would be a huge concern.

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Ng is better suited to being a full back

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Morison chucking a kid under the bus, again.

Here's what he had to say about Davies. I'm sorry, but that is piss poor management.

"He just wasn't good enough. I brought him on to change the game, to help us, and he was more of a hindrance than a help."
https://twitter.com/GlenWilliams12/s...85066872963092

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Dreadful.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

That's dreadful, he's dropped down in my estimation. Particularly since he picked such a poor team in the first place.

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Exactly

And it's not Davies's fault we had a centre back at left back and a left back at right wing is it Steve?

It could legitimately be argued that Adam Matthews was never the same player for City after Dave Jones publicly criticised him after a defeat at Ipswich, let’s hope Isaak Davies does not go the same way. Steve Morison has never once singled out a senior player like that despite them being far more responsible for our position than the youngsters and so when he says people will say he only treated Davies like he did because he is a young player, he is acknowledging a truth.

What is it about managers that makes them think they can humiliate younger players in public like that? Davies has been getting plaudits for his performances before yesterday and people who know him talk about his good attitude, he’s also a fan of the club and, so unlike some this season, can be relied upon to give his best - particularly as he is young enough not to be affected by the cynicism you might get in a senior pro. Maybe Morison thought Davies needed taking down a peg or two after the praise he has received, but he chose a crass and very disappointing way of going about it.

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Originally Posted by City123

Dreadful.

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City were pegged back for the 1st 20 minutes of the 2nd half almost constantly. I remember on two occasions the Bournemouth attack breaking down, and City had the chance for a 'breather'. Davies lost the ball immediately both times, and Bournemouth had possession again, straight away. I doubt Morison asked him to go out and get a couple of goals, just do a job that was asked of him, nothing he couldn't do. As I posted elsewhere, I think this is going down to the wire - it ain't going to be pretty, or for the faint-hearted.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

City were pegged back for the 1st 20 minutes of the 2nd half almost constantly. I remember on two occasions the Bournemouth attack breaking down, and City had the chance for a 'breather'. Davies lost the ball immediately both times, and Bournemouth had possession again, straight away. I doubt Morison asked him to go out and get a couple of goals, just do a job that was asked of him, nothing he couldn't do. As I posted elsewhere, I think this is going down to the wire - it ain't going to be pretty, or for the faint-hearted.

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But what is humiliating him going to acheive? You can take him off, fine, but don't then go a step further and have a go at him in the media

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

City were pegged back for the 1st 20 minutes of the 2nd half almost constantly. I remember on two occasions the Bournemouth attack breaking down, and City had the chance for a 'breather'. Davies lost the ball immediately both times, and Bournemouth had possession again, straight away. I doubt Morison asked him to go out and get a couple of goals, just do a job that was asked of him, nothing he couldn't do. As I posted elsewhere, I think this is going down to the wire - it ain't going to be pretty, or for the faint-hearted.

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There were also several instances in the 2nd half where I specifically recall both Nelson and Flint had time to bring the ball under control and make a simple pass to retain possession. Nelson lumped his long into Bournemouth’s half where we had no players and Flint, with plenty of time, blasted his straight out into touch, not even making the halfway line . I don’t see Morison commenting on that.

I think the point is why specifically pick on Davies when they were several poor performances from much more senior pros. Morison actually says it can be seen as an easy target picking on a youngster and you know what Steve, yes it is and it doesn’t reflect well

Think people are going a bit ott here.

He's a 20 year old young man, not a child anymore, he has probably heard worse criticism and will definitely have to moving forward if he is to make it.

I suspect he will be fine.

I do agree though in that i'd rather Morison go after some of the others just as much, the level of performance from all has been horrible for too long.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

It could legitimately be argued that Adam Matthews was never the same player for City after Dave Jones publicly criticised him after a defeat at Ipswich, let’s hope Isaak Davies does not go the same way. Steve Morison has never once singled out a senior player like that despite them being far more responsible for our position than the youngsters and so when he says people will say he only treated Davies like he did because he is a young player, he is acknowledging a truth.

What is it about managers that makes them think they can humiliate younger players in public like that? Davies has been getting plaudits for his performances before yesterday and people who know him talk about his good attitude, he’s also a fan of the club and, so unlike some this season, can be relied upon to give his best - particularly as he is young enough not to be affected by the cynicism you might get in a senior pro. Maybe Morison thought Davies needed taking down a peg or two after the praise he has received, but he chose a crass and very disappointing way of going about it.

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Absolutely agree 100% - I was just about to post about the Adam Matthews incident. Terrible man-management.

First big error by Morison in my mind, re: the post-match interview.

Fans were still onboard with him and I thought to-date most of what he has said in press-conferences had made sense; and something I could get behind.

Why he thought saying the things he did after the game about Davies was a) warranted and b) a good idea, is baffling. When he took him off I initially thought that maybe he felt with Kieffer going off we needed some extra presence; or the game was simply passing Davies by and he'd rather keep him fresh and use him on Sunday. He certainly didn't stand out as being overly poor, we were just pegged back by a better team, we had 10 men; and we hadn't trained for a fortnight. None of that particularly bothered me yesterday, as I think there have been vast improvements in majority of games and I don't think you can rely too heavily on anything from yesterday's match. So I don't understand why Morison was so defensive after the game; and subsequently hung Davies out to dry.

Be interesting to hear what was said behind closed doors; and whether the Journos will pull him up on his comments in the pre-WBA press conference (if there is one). I think he could get a little bit of respect back by admitting he was wrong to call him out in the way he did. If not, I fear a lot of the goodwill from the fans (which was obvious at the final whistle; as the players were cheered off the pitch), will have been lost. As proven in this thread, the Adam Matthews and DJ incident is still in people's minds and that must've been circ 10/15 years ago now!