Re: This flight to Rwanda
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+ the native hipster
and yet everyone from africa and the middle east wants to be 'british' perhaps they love their queen and their trifles
I'd place a large wager that more Africans want to come to the US than the UK.
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It's a long time since I thought of Enoch Powell.
Re: This flight to Rwanda
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+ the native hipster
and yet everyone from africa and the middle east wants to be 'british' perhaps they love their queen and their trifles
Yes, all 1.6 billion people in Africa and the Middle East want to be British. Honestly what planet do you live on
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delmbox
Yes, all 1.6 billion people in Africa and the Middle East want to be British. Honestly what planet do you live on
I’ve heard that he’s spoken to every one of them!
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I'm amazed that this thread has descended into:
1 - some actual racism
2 - lots of accusations of racism
3 - zero solutions
Re: This flight to Rwanda
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JamesWales
I'm amazed that this thread has descended into:
1 - some actual racism
2 - lots of accusations of racism
3 - zero solutions
Conveniently ignoring my ingenious Iceland suggestion. Tsk tsk
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Tito Fuente
Conveniently ignoring my ingenious Iceland suggestion. Tsk tsk
Ice tand corrected!
Re: This flight to Rwanda
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JamesWales
Ice tand corrected!
That's a deporting offence on it's own!
Re: This flight to Rwanda
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JamesWales
I'm amazed that this thread has descended into:
1 - some actual racism
2 - lots of accusations of racism
3 - zero solutions
One solution. Lengthy jail terms for anyone employing illegal immigrants for cheap labour and take assets.
As for proper immigration why not get them to do the jobs we need. Transport is in chaos due to understaffing. Same with the NHS etc.
Re: This flight to Rwanda
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JamesWales
I'm amazed that this thread has descended into:
1 - some actual racism
2 - lots of accusations of racism
3 - zero solutions
solution :
setup a British centre in Calais where people can apply for asylum before they cross the border, and if it is granted arrange safe transport for them.
Re: This flight to Rwanda
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JamesWales
I'm amazed that this thread has descended into:
1 - some actual racism
2 - lots of accusations of racism
3 - zero solutions
Maybe properly establish it's actually a problem that needs a solution. Given this ill thought through plan, its seems clear to me that it's not a massive concern, they just needed a few column inches to keep people like you happy so hatched this sh1t show.
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OurManFlint II
Maybe properly establish it's actually a problem that needs a solution. Given this ill thought through plan, its seems clear to me that it's not a massive concern, they just needed a few column inches to keep people like you happy so hatched this sh1t show.
Two by elections this week.
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Rjk
solution :
setup a British centre in Calais where people can apply for asylum before they cross the border, and if it is granted arrange safe transport for them.
Does Macron support this? What if those who fail or are tired of waiting still sail to the UK anyway?
Re: This flight to Rwanda
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OurManFlint II
Maybe properly establish it's actually a problem that needs a solution. Given this ill thought through plan, its seems clear to me that it's not a massive concern, they just needed a few column inches to keep people like you happy so hatched this sh1t show.
Shocking as it may seem, but different people have different concerns, and are capable of thinking about more than one thing at once. I think it's reasonable to object to what's been happening tbh.
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delmbox
Yes, all 1.6 billion people in Africa and the Middle East want to be British. Honestly what planet do you live on
yes sorry mr box the bbc article said only 52% wanted to leave
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JamesWales
Shocking as it may seem, but different people have different concerns, and are capable of thinking about more than one thing at once. I think it's reasonable to object to what's been happening tbh.
i-m not sure what you mean, sorry.
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We have ridden roughshod all over the world , raping and pillaging
Look at the spread of the commonwealth and the colonies of Spain, France, Belgium etc
No wonder people from Africa and other places fleeing violence or looking for a better life are attracted to the UK and Europe
It's all very well using the cheap labour for the west indies and Asia and Eastern Europe when we need them but if they want to come when times are less prosperous we have to something better than stick em on a plane over to Rwanda
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JamesWales
I'm amazed that this thread has descended into:
1 - some actual racism
2 - lots of accusations of racism
3 - zero solutions
Morning Jimbo.
I don't see anything "amazing" about 1 and 2. In fact, 2 occurring as a result of 1 is clearly logical and expected.
What I am amazed by is everyone just letting you get away with your nutty critique of the Rwanda disgrace by implicitly claiming it's acceptable because nobody has a "better" alternative. You know and I know that is BS.
Evaluate the policy at hand on its merits alone. The Rwanda disgrace is completely unacceptable on so many levels.
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az city
Morning Jimbo.
I don't see anything "amazing" about 1 and 2. In fact, 2 occurring as a result of 1 is clearly logical and expected.
What I am amazed by is everyone just letting you get away with your nutty critique of the Rwanda disgrace by implicitly claiming it's acceptable because nobody has a "better" alternative. You know and I know that is BS.
Evaluate the policy at hand on its merits alone. The Rwanda disgrace is completely unacceptable on so many levels.
Absolutely.
Talking about a separate issue, it is often thought that Wales gets a bad deal from the UK in terms of the Barnett formula, dished out by England. My solution is to burn and kill every Englishman. Some might be outraged, but nobody has a better alternative, this should seem perfectly acceptable.....
Re: This flight to Rwanda
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az city
Morning Jimbo.
I don't see anything "amazing" about 1 and 2. In fact, 2 occurring as a result of 1 is clearly logical and expected.
What I am amazed by is everyone just letting you get away with your nutty critique of the Rwanda disgrace by implicitly claiming it's acceptable because nobody has a "better" alternative. You know and I know that is BS.
Evaluate the policy at hand on its merits alone. The Rwanda disgrace is completely unacceptable on so many levels.
No it isn't. Calling a burglar a burglar is legitimate. Calling everyone a burglar isn't. It is perfectly legitimate to object to the current state of affairs, and think it's a policy worth trying. As usual, the language of those who oppose it is hyperbolic and defamatory to mask an absence of any viable alternative.
Why is it BS? This isn't kindergarten, or some lecture theatre where rich lecturers preach theories to rich students. This is real life. Adults should be able to discuss a policy and come up with solutions.
The current situation benefits rich migrants from safe countries over those perhaps more in need from warzones. It enriches criminal gangs who rarely use their proceeds for good causes and places a significant burden on the UK taxpayer to house, feed and process a presumably almost limitless number of people.
So yes, offer an alternative solution if you are so determined that this policy is wrong.