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Originally Posted by
Feedback
What a load of bollocks this thread is. We don't live in a football stadium, so taking the knee means nothing outside the world of football. People need to wake up and realise disagreeing with taking the knee is not being racist, it means (or certainly can mean) that its meaning has been eroded through continuous use.
I beg to differ , everybody I encounter knows about taking the knee , mostvagree , some dont and some get foam mouthed
Plenty of people disagreeing with the knee are nailed on racists , they know it , they hate being called racists but only because they know that we know what they think
Feck em
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
What a load of bollocks this thread is. We don't live in a football stadium, so taking the knee means nothing outside the world of football. People need to wake up and realise disagreeing with taking the knee is not being racist, it means (or certainly can mean) that its meaning has been eroded through continuous use.
Doesn’t seem much of a reason to boo it mind.
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
What a load of bollocks this thread is. We don't live in a football stadium, so taking the knee means nothing outside the world of football. People need to wake up and realise disagreeing with taking the knee is not being racist, it means (or certainly can mean) that its meaning has been eroded through continuous use.
It’s working because this peaceful protest is keeping the scourge of racism in the spotlight, it certainly hasn’t been eroded, if anything these last few days it’s gained considerable strength. The booers are using it as cover to display their true feelings I believe, we're wise to it, it’s they who need to be eroded.
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I beg to differ , everybody I encounter knows about taking the knee , mostvagree , some dont and some get foam mouthed
Plenty of people disagreeing with the knee are nailed on racists , they know it , they hate being called racists but only because they know that we know what they think
Feck em
Well said Sludge
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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lardy
You're parroting it, aren't you?
If not, why do you think the footballers are supporting a Marxist organisation?
Because most of them are thicker than pigshit, to be honest with you. Great as footballers, but not the brightest as people. Yeah, I know I am generalisng here, but a lot of them aren't that bright. Also I am pretty sure not many of them would be politically motivated enough to read and understand that BLM are essentially a Marxist organisation. They are just running with the pack
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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lardy
Did you come to the conclusion that it's a Marxist organisation yourself?
Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.
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Have you read about Colin Kaepernick?
This neo Marxist nonsense just makes racists feel a bit better.
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Originally Posted by
tforturton
The problem with 'taking the knee' is that (1) it has been going on for too long
Maybe taking the knee should go on as long as the slave trade (400 years).
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Originally Posted by
Mr Soul '68
Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.
You do know Marxism is just a school of thought, not a political party, economic system or form of governance?
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Mr Soul '68
Because most of them are thicker than pigshit, to be honest with you. Great as footballers, but not the brightest as people. Yeah, I know I am generalisng here, but a lot of them aren't that bright. Also I am pretty sure not many of them would be politically motivated enough to read and understand that BLM are essentially a Marxist organisation. They are just running with the pack
I once worked on a pig farm. I can assure you pig shit is not thick.
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Originally Posted by
G rangetown Blue
Have you read about Colin Kaepernick?
This neo Marxist nonsense just makes racists feel a bit better.
Yes, isn't Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback who knelt at the start of NFL games in protest of police brutality and racial inequality in the US?
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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az city
Maybe taking the knee should go on as long as the slave trade (400 years).
:thumbup:
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Originally Posted by
az city
That's clever and funny. I may pinch that if I may.
You carry on 👍
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Originally Posted by
Mr Soul '68
Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.
Do you know anything about Marxism? Marxism is about class, not race. "Marxism" has become a right-wing buzzword used by people that have no ****ing idea who Marx was or what his philosophy is. Be honest with yourself, did you even know Karl Marx was German?
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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G rangetown Blue
Have you read about Colin Kaepernick?
This neo Marxist nonsense just makes racists feel a bit better.
As with most things, people will put their own spin on it to help it fit their pov/agenda.
It doesn't suit some people that people agree with the movement so they just go straight out and attack it, put a bad spin on it etc. Newspapers/social media etc are flooded with one side of the argument until enough people who don't think for themselves just nod and agree.
I've no idea if any of that makes sense, usually doesn't when I come on here drunk, I babble when I'm sober so this is probably just a pile of nonsense I'll read back and wonder why I typed..
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
Great stuff. Keep it up with the kneeling lads, it's working a treat
Such rudeness.
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the other bob wilson
What hidden agenda is that then? It can’t be that they’re Marxists, because people like you are always telling us about that one - it’s hardly hidden.
People like me ?
Are you following up on Dorcas’ remark?
You’re not a racist , a bad person or unintelligent by any stretch Dorcas. You’d be pressed to offend me since your views would be honest and rational, but you see what you bring out of the woodwork when you mention stuff like that ?
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RonnieBird
People like me ?
Are you following up on Dorcas’ remark?
You’re not a racist , a bad person or unintelligent by any stretch Dorcas. You’d be pressed to offend me since your views would be honest and rational, but you see what you bring out of the woodwork when you mention stuff like that ?
What a self pitying response to what I said. Do you really think I was referring to your religion? "People like you" can still be used without having the connotations you want to put on it you know and I used it in this case because it fitted with what I wanted to say. I said it because if I'd been asked to predict five people on here who would play the BLM = Marxist card to try to justify their views. I would have been wrong in some cases, but not with you. You would have been in my five all day long.
So, having got your mud slinging attempt to move things off topic out of the way, I ask again, what is the "hidden agenda" you talk about? It cannot be Marxism, given that I never stop reading about that when BLM is discussed among some right wingers - although I note Steve Baker, of all people, can see problems for his party regarding responses to taking the knee;-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...aking-the-knee
Finally, those of you telling the England players they're wrong have not responded to the James O'Brien video posted on here yesterday yet - here it is again just in case you missed it first time.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...g-priti-patel/
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Undercoverinwurzelland
"But I once played in a rugby team in the Army composed of fourteen Fijians and me."
I wonder why they made him play on the opposition :hehe:
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Mr Soul '68
Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.
Such a cliché :hehe: You do know Marx had some Eurocentric ideas?
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It's a bit of a challenge to believe those booing Taking The Knee are expressing their principled misgivings with Marxism given every single foreign anthem was also booed by some England fans, regardless of the social, economic or political philosophy associated with each nation.
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Mr Soul '68
Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.
Of course, you came to your own opinion after watching extreme right wing YouTube videos. It just so happened to be the same opinion. OK :hehe:
I guess either hundreds of footballers have been simultaneously hoodwinked by the Marxists because "they're not very bright" or there is a problem with the way black players are treated and they're using a simple gesture to draw attention to it.
We may never know the truth...
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Eric the Half a Bee
There are valid reasons for disagreeing with an anti-racism message?
It's a personal choice whether you wish to take a knee. It shouldn't be for Ed upon you because then it's contrived. No inference should be made if you do or don't kneel. Likewise idiots booing those that do need shutting up.
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Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?
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Baloo
Doesn’t seem much of a reason to boo it mind.
agreed, that I don't understand