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Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...turer-21780061
I’m sure we have all seen worse than this in school back in the day? This world is now insane
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Was in high school in the early 2000's and remember some of the teachers would throw some quite witty but also offensive comments about. Definitely wouldn't be said in a school today, by the teacher anyway.
Remember the odd pen flying too, probably not at a dangerous height though as even then a pen to the face probably wasn't a good thing.
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Back in the early sixties there was a teacher at my school who used to throw a rubber at anyone who wasn't paying attention to him. Normally, he used to aim for the head.
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NottinghamBlue
Back in the early sixties there was a teacher at my school who used to throw a rubber at anyone who wasn't paying attention to him. Normally, he used to aim for the head.
One of my teachers used to throw a small metal globe, which used to come apart in two pieces, northern and southern hemispheres, on impact with either the student or the back wall of the class room if the would-be target moved in good time or if the shot was wayward.
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I got picked up once by the back of my jumper from my seat out the class, feet didn’t touch the floor the whole way. Somehow I can’t imagine that occurring now….:hehe: mid 80’s too
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The kid must be at least 16 to be in college and its his foster parents getting involved.
Utterly pathetic, from all sides.
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How times have changed...caned several times and given the purple nurple. Can i dig up those graves and claim reparations?
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Wooden blackboard rubbers were a common weapon of choice for teachers when I was a lad.
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The Bloop
Wooden blackboard rubbers were a common weapon of choice for teachers when I was a lad.
Luxury.
Wooden blackboard duster would be thrown from at least 30 feet by our psychopathic teacher.
We'd think at the time that he'd aim to miss on purpose, just to shake you up, until one day this one kid (proper case) ducked and missed him by inches.
The teacher then gave him four of the best for ducking!
If he hadn't ducked he'd have ended up in hospital, or worse :yikes:
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We had a psycho teacher who liked to call pupils to the front of their class, get them in a handshake and squeeze sometimes until they cried in front of everybody.
One time a lad stood up to him and after he'd squeezed and gained no reaction offered him out down in the gym. Legend.
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I think it's interesting that, while many talk about missiles being hurled by teachers in the past, no-one has suggested it made them think twice about their behaviour. Violence towards children as a way of punishment or correction doesn't work.
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Eric the Half a Bee
I think it's interesting that, while many talk about missiles being hurled by teachers in the past, no-one has suggested it made them think twice about their behaviour. Violence towards children as a way of punishment or correction doesn't work.
Many kids would see it as a game to see how far they could push a teacher before they snapped.
The parents would take the view that their child probably deserved any punishment that was dished out (as they probably received the same or worse when they were kids)
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Eric the Half a Bee
I think it's interesting that, while many talk about missiles being hurled by teachers in the past, no-one has suggested it made them think twice about their behaviour. Violence towards children as a way of punishment or correction doesn't work.
We had one teacher, he was amazing, everyone loved him. Everyone knew he could flip, just shouting really, banging the table etc…but no one ever crossed that line. Best teacher in Radyr Comp by a mile.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I was caned in school
You leave that to your Dominatrix these days :hehe:
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The Bloop
Wooden blackboard rubbers were a common weapon of choice for teachers when I was a lad.
Brother Adrian at St Illtyds loved chucking those things
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Black board rubber thrown at my head and pinned to the wall.
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I'd say the world WAS insane.
I understand some things are silly these days, but anteacher throwing something at a pupil isn't a good example.
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dembethewarrior
I'd say the world WAS insane.
I understand some things are silly these days, but anteacher throwing something at a pupil isn't a good example.
Interesting. You say the world was insane my view is the opposite. In our day there seemed a lot more respect than there is nowadays.
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BLUETIT
You leave that to your Dominatrix these days :hehe:
We are talking about a different kind of caned here TIT
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Bald Barry Bastad
Interesting. You say the world was insane my view is the opposite. In our day there seemed a lot more respect than there is nowadays.
I am saying throwing things at pupils isn't normal. The rest you concluded yourself.
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Whilst most of us of a certain age would think this is incredibly harsh there is obviously two sides to the story. It says he is a foster child. Maybe he’s a vulnerable child, or has a history of violence in the home. We don’t know.
That said he shouldn’t be kipping in class.
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goats
Throwing something at a pupil is a violent act, illustrating a lack of restraint and poor decision-making unbecoming of a teacher. Yes, most of us had worse, but that doesn't make it OK. Looking back, I can't believe the crass behavior of some of my teachers and the shitty example they set.
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NYCBlue
Throwing something at a pupil is a violent act, illustrating a lack of restraint and poor decision-making unbecoming of a teacher. Yes, most of us had worse, but that doesn't make it OK. Looking back, I can't believe the crass behavior of some of my teachers and the shitty example they set.
Its crazy, just because older people had it as the norm it makes the world crazy these days because you can't do it..
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getting a kid to pay attention for the next 20 minutes is not worth the downside which is potentially teaching them to use physical violence and intimidation to get what they want.
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NYCBlue
Throwing something at a pupil is a violent act, illustrating a lack of restraint and poor decision-making unbecoming of a teacher. Yes, most of us had worse, but that doesn't make it OK. Looking back, I can't believe the crass behavior of some of my teachers and the shitty example they set.
I had the wooden board duster thrown at me , hitting me on the shoulder , steel rule slammed down on the table in front of me , wooden metre rule over knuckles ......that could have broken my fingers ......and the cane across the back of the legs
It did nothing except make me more disruptive
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Rjk
getting a kid to pay attention for the next 20 minutes is not worth the downside which is potentially teaching them to use physical violence and intimidation to get what they want.
Indeed
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Rjk
getting a kid to pay attention for the next 20 minutes is not worth the downside which is potentially teaching them to use physical violence and intimidation to get what they want.
......is the correct answer! Why didn't the Lecturer just wake the kid up gently, escort him off the premises and tell him not to return until he gets a good night's kip? Then soon after contact the parents and tell them he's not welcome until they help him to sort himself out. The world has turned many revolutions since we were at school.
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Dorcus
......is the correct answer! Why didn't the Lecturer just wake the kid up gently, escort him off the premises and tell him not to return until he gets a good night's kip? Then soon after contact the parents and tell them he's not welcome until they help him to sort himself out. The world has turned many revolutions since we were at school.
He can't touch the students.
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Bet it was a bit of foolish fun gone wrong , that years ago everyone including the student would have a giggle , its like that rail guard incident in Swansea think she was student when he said hang on love let a man open hat door for you , and a sexism accusation was levelled ,the world has gone mad
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lardy
He can't touch the students.
Too right, he’d be in jail now let alone lose his job he had for 22 years…..I used to teach 20 years ago, saw the change occurring then and I had some really affected kids to look after who the main class teacher couldn’t cope with. There is no discipline anymore, a troublesome kid can get away with murder. I’m not saying the teacher should be able to use the kind of discipline they used to, it’s just escalates beyond and the kid gets removed from the class. No wonder so many are lost.
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goats
Too right, he’d be in jail now let alone lose his job he had for 22 years…..I used to teach 20 years ago, saw the change occurring then and I had some really affected kids to look after who the main class teacher couldn’t cope with. There is no discipline anymore, a troublesome kid can get away with murder. I’m not saying the teacher should be able to use the kind of discipline they used to, it’s just escalates beyond and the kid gets removed from the class. No wonder so many are lost.
are there more or less kids who end up removed from schools these days?
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Rjk
are there more or less kids who end up removed from schools these days?
Probably more, I was responsible for one 10 yr old who was expelled from a few primary’s, none in Cardiff would touch him. Off to Greenhill he went. If you can’t discipline them, the teachers won’t want them disrupting the whole class will they? Maybe a current teacher on here can enlighten us.
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Need to add context to this :
The lecturer is of 20 yrs experienced.
He attempted to call his name twice .
(Lightly ) lobbed cardboard.
Student had hoody dragged down over his head .
He was asleep.
He woke bleary eyed .
He didn't fire a missile Ffs .
Bloody good lecturer lost .
Hoody lad probably asleep now .
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Bald Barry Bastad
Black board rubber thrown at my head and pinned to the wall.
Ah the good old days
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There was a teacher in Penygawsi Primary School who used to give one kid “flying lessons”. This consisted of picking him up and launching him, aeroplane style across the desks.
That was when my late sister was in his class (late 70s).
I had him 5 years later and he slapped his hand down in the top of my head for kneeling up on a stool! Next thing, I knew, my mum was down at the school, shouting at the headmistress!
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I had the wooden board duster thrown at me , hitting me on the shoulder , steel rule slammed down on the table in front of me , wooden metre rule over knuckles ......that could have broken my fingers ......and the cane across the back of the legs
It did nothing except make me more disruptive
Me too. I had it all. Cane, ruler, board rubber, and various daps. I remember a kid getting hit in the head with a board rubber and being hurt pretty badly. Nothing even happened. The teacher just carried on.
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life on mars
Need to add context to this :
The lecturer is of 20 yrs experienced.
He attempted to call his name twice .
(Lightly ) lobbed cardboard.
Student had hoody dragged down over his head .
He was asleep.
He woke bleary eyed .
He didn't fire a missile Ffs .
Bloody good lecturer lost .
Hoody lad probably asleep now .
You don't throw things at people to get their attention. What was stopping the teacher walking over to the kid? If a kid wanted to ask the teacher a question would throwing something at him be an appropriate way to get his attention?
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Did your teacher throwing things at you make you respect them? Genuine question.
Personally, I had more respect for teachers who respected me and treated me like an adult compared to the ones who were arseholes.
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Bald Barry Bastad
Interesting. You say the world was insane my view is the opposite. In our day there seemed a lot more respect than there is nowadays.
In a day where respect was expected and somewhat enforced rather than earned. I actually disagree that there is less respect nowadays.