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Nick Cave: 'cancel culture is bad religion run amuck'
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https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...cancel-culture
Nick Cave: 'cancel culture is bad religion run amuck'
Nick Cave has always been a bit of an arse , talented but an arse .
Like some of the birthday party stuff but not keen on his solo output
Appearing in Israel is never going to go down well and whilst like cave she is talented his ex pj Harvey is a fox hunting supporter
Bit odd
He speaks in broad terms. Some people need to be cancelled. Or should we sit at home watching Jim'll Fix It and come to terms with our feelings using art as catharsis?
I love The Birthday Party and some of Nick Cave's earlier solo stuff. I can't really be bothered these days. A mate of mine who's a huge fan went to a Q&A he did in a theatre in Brooklyn a couple of years ago. He said NC took himself very seriously and was quite full of himself. To a surprising degree.
Sat next to him on a flight from Heathrow to Toronto in 2011. Interesting chap
Utter Fantasy
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Ah , Mr bond , I have been expecting you x
Cave comes across as a libertarian which is odd as he's supposed to be alternative
Didn't he go out with Kylie Minogue?
How on earth did he pull her ?
He looks like a chimp
Surely everyone acknowledges that society isn't equal. People are disadvantaged over race, sexuality, gender, class etc.
Take something like political correctness. I find it mystifying that some people object to not being able to joke about something that offends someone else, and even takes that a step further by blaming that person for being offended.
As long as people are not breaking the law, they should be able to live their lives free from any discrimination and should not be disadvantaged in any way. Society will never be completely equal, but we should never stop striving to improve equality, so society becomes more equal.
The term "cancel culture" doesn't mean anything. It's a bullshit term invented by people who don't want to face public consequences or judgement for their actions, and in today's buzzword world it's effective tool to shut things down with. Same as when you shout "fake news" or "PC gone mad" it automatically puts the issue into a bracket regardless of the intricacies of the situation.
If you behave like a prick you should be called out for it, that's not "cancel culture", that's being held responsible for your actions and words and it's not new, it's something we learnt the first time we got a bollocking from our parents for pushing over a sibling or having a tantrum in a shop.
The problem is because of social media we live in a world of sides now, simple sides for complicated situations. Everybody's got teams when it comes to everything - team brexit, team labour, team mask, team PC, team anti-cancel culture. Where before people used to think a bit more and end up with a definite but flexible opinion, now we think less and own immovable ones because we're on our teams.
The internet is a wonderful thing in many ways but barring the obvious things like war and disease, social media is the worst thing to happen to humankind in my lifetime, and I say that as someone who uses it a lot.
The terminology may be poor , never heard it before .
I think he has a point , I didn't feel he was trying to justify anything , he was asking a question.
Are we going too far with the desire to be seen as holier than holy.
Balance is a very very important word and we need to have balance when we are changing the world , even when its for the overall good of mankind. Without balance you will push the other side, as you describe, to rebellion , whether they are right or wrong .
"Everyone" has a side in social debate ? Dont think so , I have an opinion but its not usually strong enough for me to get a tattoo and push it down other peoples throats . Quite happy to debate and it can be fluid enough to acknowledge there are relevant points in a different of view .
I cycled in Cambodia a couple of years ago . Our guide had survived the Khmer Rouge . He described scholars being worked to death (literally) in the fields . They had just had elections and the communist party (which was full of ex Khymer Rouge disciples) had been re elected under the slogan , Vote for us and peace will remain.
It is the most sinister place I have visited . (I worked in Saddams Iraq in the early 80s) .
Vietnam , another communist country where everyone is equal of course , just some much more equal than others.
I meant "everyone" loosely, there's still plenty of people who will change their minds according to facts of course. The trouble is that nowadays you could believe the craziest most ridiculous thing and you'll find plenty of people to back you up.
The 5g causing Coronavirus thing is a great example, it's lunacy, madness, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever but you've got a ton of people who believe it and will absolutely never have their mind changed even though people are pointing out all the reasons why it makes no sense, because they've also got plenty of people telling them that they're correct.
The best example of the "teams" thing I'm talking about is when Donald Trump said that he could shoot someone in Times Square and his base wouldn't care. Truest thing he's ever said.
Communism is an ideology that doesn't work .
It cannot work .
Unless I have missed something and you can show me an example that works ?
Even if we reverted back to mud hut village living, there would be a hierarchy, the ones at the top would get the juiciest pickings.
My kids will come to me with information , I will ask where it came from if it sounds outlandish . I have said to them OK there is a lot of information on Facebook , there are also a lot of people dishing out misinformation . So , if you read something on face book , google it , check the source of your google information (could be the guy that spread it to Facebook wrote a blog or a piece to justify his drivel) digest it and believe it if you think its a fair piece.
Simple ?
Its not that simple though , and I am going to agree with you about social media to a degree.
I voted to leave the EU . Its a decision I am fine with ...... or was, till I watched the film about the leave team in the vote .
I was duped , I heard my own voice saying exactly what I was programmed to say... I dont consider myself particularly
stupid, the politicians have raised the bar, everything could now be a smoking mirror for me .
The tide has swung away for Trump , his days are now numbered.
Think your right , it's like racism, someone will always look down on someone if they are different in some way.
As it is with these Maxist /Communist regimes, which all seem to need the support of large armies and generals to deploy their messages and dictate their authority and controls.
The tribes in the amazon , the red indians and the aborigines are the closest thing to communism we have seen
They worked until people who wanted everything tried to wipe them out
Do you think the shocking mess the human race has got itself into with capitalism works ?
Its an utter failure of boom , bust then boom and bust again