Welsh Political Barometer

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05-06-20, 16:04
City123

Welsh Political Barometer

Support for Welsh independence has hit an historic high according to the most recent Welsh Political Barometer

https://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/election...-independence/
https://nation.cymru/opinion/the-lat...yet-persuaded/

Interesting results, 32% (when adjusted for don't knows) in a straight Yes/No indy poll is an incredible result considering just 10% supported independence in 2013. By comparison, Scottish independence was polling at 32% in 2013, just a year before their referendum and with the SNP having been in power for 6 years

Strange times
05-06-20, 16:15
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

oooooops there goes Labour again, aka SNP Scotland wipe out moment , they will have to win back the old Labour heartlands if this happens
05-06-20, 16:19
City123

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

Quote:

Originally Posted by life on mars

oooooops there goes Labour again, aka SNP Scotland wipe out moment , they will have to win back the old Labour heartlands if this happens

The poll also showed a 5% increase in support for Labour, with Plaid also gaining (4%), Lib Dems, Greens and BP gaining 1% each and Tory support dropping by 11%

https://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/election...ometer-poll-2/
05-06-20, 17:24
Heisenberg

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

Quote:

Originally Posted by City123

The poll also showed a 5% increase in support for Labour, with Plaid also gaining (4%), Lib Dems, Greens and BP gaining 1% each and Tory support dropping by 11%

https://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/election...ometer-poll-2/

LoM loves being wrong, he's a massive... masochist
05-06-20, 17:56
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by City123

The poll also showed a 5% increase in support for Labour, with Plaid also gaining (4%), Lib Dems, Greens and BP gaining 1% each and Tory support dropping by 11%

https://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/election...ometer-poll-2/

Let's hope your right as Labour let the boat sale in Scotland , and that's where the party was born .
05-06-20, 18:30
trampie09

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

I heard the main man was contacted to ask if he would consider changing the question from a would you vote for Independence tomorrow type question to a would you vote for Independence in the future type question, seems like the guy is interested.
I would have thought that would boost the figures even more for Indy.
06-06-20, 17:55
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

LoM loves being wrong, he's a massive... masochist

We shall see via the ballot box us the telling moment , perhaos Welsh Labour voters are looking for a new home.
06-06-20, 20:18
Heisenberg

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by life on mars

We shall see via the ballot box us the telling moment , perhaos Welsh Labour voters are looking for a new home.

Eh?

The poll said that more people want independence in Wales and you took that to mean the end of Labour here.

The same poll says that Labour's popularity has increased 5%.

We don't need to wait for the next ballot - you were wrong yesterday when you said "oooooops there goes Labour again" based on City123's post.

I hope that's helped clear it up for you. If you need any futher help (in any thread), I'm happy to be of service.
06-06-20, 22:44
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Eh?

The poll said that more people want independence in Wales and you took that to mean the end of Labour here.

The same poll says that Labour's popularity has increased 5%.

We don't need to wait for the next ballot - you were wrong yesterday when you said "oooooops there goes Labour again" based on City123's post.

I hope that's helped clear it up for you. If you need any futher help (in any thread), I'm happy to be of service.

That's okay , you stick with the polls , and I stick with the vote and its outcome . After all the last one didn't go well .
06-06-20, 23:13
Heisenberg

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by life on mars

That's okay , you stick with the polls , and I stick with the vote and its outcome . After all the last one didn't go well .

Ahem... You were the one reacting to the polls posted by City123. There was no vote for you to "stick" to.

Always happy to help :biggrin:
07-06-20, 09:17
nugent

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

Welsh independence my arsse
07-06-20, 13:57
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Ahem... You were the one reacting to the polls posted by City123. There was no vote for you to "stick" to.

Always happy to help :biggrin:

I know it's hard for you, the WAG vote coming in May ,folk use polls to fit there narrative, when its against ones political belief its false when it favours it's real .
07-06-20, 13:58
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by nugent

Welsh independence my arsse

Indeed its a choice of that or Labour I guess, think Wales hates all other parties no matter how shit they are
07-06-20, 14:46
Heisenberg

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by life on mars

I know it's hard for you, the WAG vote coming in May ,folk use polls to fit there narrative, when its against ones political belief its false when it favours it's real .

You literally used the poll to fit your narrative of the impending demise of Labour :hehe:
07-06-20, 18:39
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

You literally used the poll to fit your narrative of the impending demise of Labour :hehe:

Welsh Labours demise really , now you might be onto something let's see what happens .
07-06-20, 18:42
Heisenberg

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Welsh Labours demise really , now you might be onto something let's see what happens .

Yes, let's.
13-06-20, 18:23
Rogersblue

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Yes, let's.

the only ones who vote for labour in Wales anymore are the sheep or idiots .:wales:which one are you.:hehe:
14-06-20, 11:01
Heisenberg

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by Rogersblue

the only ones who vote for labour in Wales anymore are the sheep or idiots .:wales:which one are you.:hehe:

Can you write that again, please? This time, in the form of an actual question. Thank you.
18-06-20, 03:24
RonnieBird

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

Who's going to pay for this Welsh independence ?
18-06-20, 19:08
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

Who's going to pay for this Welsh independence ?

Same voters that eventually turned in Scotland, they just can't see it or want to see it .
19-06-20, 11:15
Taunton Blue Genie

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Same voters that eventually turned in Scotland, they just can't see it or want to see it .

Another one of your posts that makes no sense.
19-06-20, 16:02
RonnieBird

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

You just say that stuffwhen you want to put someone down. Very poor and ineffective debating style.
20-06-20, 09:22
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

You just say that stuffwhen you want to put someone down. Very poor and ineffective debating style.

its the default position .
19-01-21, 19:29
City123

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

First one of 2021 came out yesterday: https://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/election...ometer-poll-2/

Looking like a 3 horse race, Labour leading in both the constituency and list polls on 34% and 30%, Tories second on 26% & 25% and Plaid in third on 22% and 23%. This translates to 26 seats for Labour, 16 Conservative, 15 Plaid Cymru, 2 for Abolish and 1 Lib Dem. This poll was before the latest scandals though, could lead to increase for both Plaid and Abolish
21-01-21, 00:31
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by City123

First one of 2021 came out yesterday: https://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/election...ometer-poll-2/

Looking like a 3 horse race, Labour leading in both the constituency and list polls on 34% and 30%, Tories second on 26% & 25% and Plaid in third on 22% and 23%. This translates to 26 seats for Labour, 16 Conservative, 15 Plaid Cymru, 2 for Abolish and 1 Lib Dem. This poll was before the latest scandals though, could lead to increase for both Plaid and Abolish

If Abolish policy is to take down he ineffectiveness of WAG they have my vote, absolute waste of time and money , get rid of and spend the money on building 5 new hospitals and a decent transport infrastructure.
29-01-21, 00:49
City123

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by life on mars

If Abolish policy is to take down he ineffectiveness of WAG they have my vote, absolute waste of time and money , get rid of and spend the money on building 5 new hospitals and a decent transport infrastructure.

Well you're not getting 5 new hospitals for scrapping the Senedd. According to this, https://fullfact.org/europe/did-eu-m...new-hospitals/ the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham cost over £500m to build. The Senedd's annual cost is nowhere near that.
29-01-21, 13:30
Taunton Blue Genie

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

Who's going to pay for this Welsh independence ?

Mexico.
29-01-21, 15:31
jon1959

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonnieBird

Who's going to pay for this Welsh independence ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Mexico.

No, the Mexicans are only paying for the Offa's Dyke upgrades.
29-01-21, 17:22
life on mars

Re: Welsh Political Barometer

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonnieBird

Who's going to pay for this Welsh independence ?

You won't get a sensible reply as there isn't one, so flipancy appears .

The answer is taxes.

We would see under performing services as I guess as a country were not likely to introduce an aggressive approach to attracting private business as at our core ploucy as we operate a socalist funded public service model, which is fine if your bank rolled by Westminster.

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