Not really.
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/st...44082145177600
Hard to gloss over this one
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Not really.
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/st...44082145177600
Hard to gloss over this one
Indeed this type of thing has a history:
According to*The Sunday Telegraph, more than 25 million pairs of the goggles were bought* for the national pandemic stockpile in 2009. Of those, 15.9 million have already been distributed into the healthcare system, while 9.7 million remain in stockpile.
Coronavirus PPE: all 400,000 gowns flown from Turkey for NHS fail UK standards
It happens when your buying on the hoof in a blind panic to safe lives
It also happens when you hand out big contracts to your mates and supporters with little oversight, and no proper enforcement of procurement processes, or concern for specification. Incompetence and corruption leading to public scandal!Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Yep and I'm sure that goes on everywhere , its still an attempt to solve a supply issue albeit a stupid one.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
And more woe
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53705229
Coronavirus: Randox recalls up to 750,000 test kits over safety concerns
This virus is not easy to manage however clever one is .
No it doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
in the private sector a lot of that type of deal goes onQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Ah, the penny finally drops;-Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ment-of-sleaze
I've never know a government or a party that hasn't been embroiled in sleeze, sexual misconduct ,inappropriate behaviour, racism , sexism , expense scandals , use of drugs ,social media abuse , MP's jailed / suspended, god I could go on and onQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Sorry more copy and paste
https://www.politicshome.com/news/ar...rved-jail-time
Diane Abbotts Son : James Abbott-Thompson, 28, had been working as a diplomat for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, which is based in King Charles Street, Westminster, after graduating from Cambridge University.
He went to the building on November 29 to see a member of staff but became angry after being told they were not there.
Police were called and Mr Abbott-Thompson was asked to leave, but instead he spat in the face of Police Constable Stefan Aqua before punching him in the face. He then tried to punch a second police officer, before grabbing his hand and biting his left thumb.
He also smashed a glass plaque and assaulted a third man during the incident.
At Westminster Magistrates’ Court, Mr Abbott-Thompson admitted threatening behaviour, criminal damage, assault by beating and two counts of assaulting a police officer. He will be sentenced on April 8.
Former cabinet minister Chris Huhne and his ex-wife Vicky Pryce have each been jailed for eight months for perverting the course of justice.
Eric Illsley
The former Barnsley Central MP had the dishonour of being the first MP to be convicted over the expenses scandal after he was handed a 12-month sentence for making false claims
In mid-2009 Mr Illsley was exposed by the Daily Telegraph for making so-called “phantom” claims for council tax on his expenses. Over a four-year period he claimed more than £10,000 from the taxpayer, despite the total bill for the property amounting to only £3,966.
He also made regular submissions for £200 expense claims which were just below the limit where he would have been required to file receipts.
He was imprisoned for three months before being released on an electronic tag, and going on to appear on BBC Newsnight just months after his release claiming his excess claims were "an allowance for living in London".
Elliot Morley
Former environment minister Elliot Morley was banged up in May 2011 after he pleaded guilty to £32,000 of expenses fraud.
From 2004 to 2006, the Scunthorpe Labour MP made 19 claims for excessive mortgage payments while also filling out a further 21 second home allowance forms for another mortgage which he had already paid off.
He was sentenced to 16 months, but was released less than five months later.
Jim Devine
Ex-Livingstone MP Jim Devine was jailed after being found guilty of claiming £8,385 of parliamentary expenses for work on his home by a company which never existed.
The judge in the case slammed him for false accounting with the “entirely bogus” receipts.
The former chair of Scottish Labour served four months of his 16-month sentence before being released and electronically tagged.
David Chaytor
Another expenses offender, David Chaytor was handed the longest sentence of any of the MPs caught up in the scandal – 18 months.
Mr Chaytor – like the other less-than-honourable members– was taken to court for false accounting charges. The case against him revolved around £18,000 worth of expenses which he was found to have falsely claimed from the taxpayer.
One of the most serious charges against Mr Chaytor was for making rental payments towards a property which he owned. He was accused of using fake tenancy agreements to hoodwink the expenses office.
His attempt to appeal the sentence failed, but he was released under home supervision conditions just five months later.
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Denis MacShane
The Rotherham Labour ex-MP was suspended from the party multiple times as continued revelations about his expenses were exposed over an 18-month period. He was first referred to the police after it came to light that he had made £125,000-worth of expenses claims for his constituency office - which was his garage.
Writing before the charges were laid, Mr MacShane attempted to play down the seriousness of the scandal, telling the Guardian: “There will come a moment when moats and manure, bath plugs and tampons will be seen as a wonderful moment of British fiddling, but more on a Dad’s Army scale than the real corruption of politics.”
He was eventually charged with false accounting for the creation of £12,900 of bogus receipts and was banged up for six months.
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Fiona Onasanya
The member for Peterborough was booted out of the Labour party earlier this month after she was found to have lied about a speeding charge in order to avoid a police ticket.
The MP and former solicitor was convicted at a retrial of colluding with her brother, Festus, after her Nissan Micra was caught going at 41mph in a 30mph zone near Peterborough in July 2017.
She was sentenced to an immediate three-month jail term, while her brother received a 10 month custodial sentence.
She is the first sitting MP to be jailed in 28 years.
Just for balance
Balance?
Dozens of MPs fiddled their expenses - in all parties. A number of MPs across parties have perverted the course of justice (several around driving offences) and a lot of MPs have relatives who have been arrested for assault!
None of that 'balances' out the issue at the heart of this thread. If you ignore the public sector procurement rules, hand out massive contracts to your mates without ensuring they are competent to deliver, cut corners with the PPE specifications.... etc etc you end up with a corruption scandal and a massive waste of public money. There may be examples of that from other parties at other times (although I doubt it in recent history) but what you have offered up is not that!
I think you have missed the point of the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
nope I didn't bring in sleese to the post, other's did
Slease :: immoral, sordid, and corrupt behaviour or activities
Strange how your sense of "balance" is so one sided isn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
The amount of time and effort you've put into coming up with anti Labour party stuff in this thread is so revealing.
By the way, it's sleaze and you'd already made four posts defending this sleazy Government in this thread before I posted that link.
Lifeonmars is correct about balance. It's very important.
For example, if someone says natural born UK citizens are only white, then maybe we can have a counter view for balance. And someone else can make the reasonable point that some 15 year olds may be up for being groomed and used in a sex party, but we should have balance here too.