Re: Labour Turn To Implode Angela Won't Be Happy
Labour taking the left for granted again. I’ve been calling for Starmer to start talking about what he and his party is for rather than against and now he has started doing it to a tiny extent, it’s pretty depressing - he’s petrified of stepping on “middle England’s” toes.
Re: Labour Turn To Implode Angela Won't Be Happy
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the other bob wilson
Labour taking the left for granted again. I’ve been calling for Starmer to start talking about what he and his party is for rather than against and now he has started doing it to a tiny extent, it’s pretty depressing - he’s petrified of stepping on “middle England’s” toes.
It's easier for him though, with there being no obvious left of labour party at the moment, Socialist Alliance, Respect, various marxist groups etc all gone by the wayside. He could risk losing their votes, but more likely is he knows he has them in the bag at the moment.
Re: Labour Turn To Implode Angela Won't Be Happy
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JamesWales
It's easier for him though, with there being no obvious left of labour party at the moment, Socialist Alliance, Respect, various marxist groups etc all gone by the wayside. He could risk losing their votes, but more likely is he knows he has them in the bag at the moment.
The Green Party should be thinking they’ve got a real opportunity of taking a lot of votes, especially young ones, off Labour.
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the other bob wilson
The Green Party should be thinking they’ve got a real opportunity of taking a lot of votes, especially young ones, off Labour.
Yeah true. I suppose I overlooked them in there, but I don't see them as conventionally left really, but yes, they could siphon off some younger ones.
The old Labour problem of keeping both Hampstead and Hull happy..
Re: Labour Turn To Implode Angela Won't Be Happy
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JamesWales
It's easier for him though, with there being no obvious left of labour party at the moment, Socialist Alliance, Respect, various marxist groups etc all gone by the wayside. He could risk losing their votes, but more likely is he knows he has them in the bag at the moment.
Yeah. I can't imagine being 'left' enough to want to risk another Tory government and Starmer is counting on people feeling that way. He might lose votes to the greens in seats they can't win.
Re: Labour Turn To Implode Angela Won't Be Happy
After four straight election defeats, Labour has got nothing to be complacent about and expecting power to just fall into your lap just because the Government is crap reeks of complacency - truth is, leaving party politics aside, we’ve had a crap Government for twelve years and a pretty awful main opposition party during the same period.
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the other bob wilson
After four straight election defeats, Labour has got nothing to be complacent about and expecting power to just fall into your lap just because the Government is crap reeks of complacency - truth is, leaving party politics aside, we’ve had a crap Government for twelve years and a pretty awful main opposition party during the same period.
Truss will turn the tide..
Re: Labour Turn To Implode Angela Won't Be Happy
Re: Labour Turn To Implode Angela Won't Be Happy
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Dorcus
Like King Canute?
To be fair to Cnut, he did his defying the waves act to make a point to his sycophantic advisors. He was saying to them that he was just a man and has no supernatural power over nature - and proved it by getting his feet wet - whatever oily nonsense they said to curry favour.
Re: Labour Turn To Implode Angela Won't Be Happy
I am no fan of Lisa Nandy - but good to see her turn up at a CWU picket line in Wigan.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-line-in-wigan
I assume she will be instructed to apologise, and will be sacked if she doesn't?
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Good for her