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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Every team is only as good as they are today, not yesterday, not tomorrow, we’ve qualified for the World Cup Finals today and we’re in the top 32 in the world. Let’s enjoy it.
Your right. Its been a brilliant achievement by the entire squad to qualify.
Wish I hadnt commented.
Should just enjoy the success.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
Sparticus_Mills
I thought Alan was a disaster waiting to happen. Amazed Page didn't bring on Morrel to shore things up.
What f***ing game were you watching !!!
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
What f***ing game were you watching !!!
Are you kidding? Allen was terrible. kept giving the ball away in our own third and was lucky not to give away a penalty.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
What f***ing game were you watching !!!
I stopped counting at the amount of possession he gave away.
Ultimately doesn't matter as we won.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
Sparticus_Mills
Are you kidding? Allen was terrible. kept giving the ball away in our own third and was lucky not to give away a penalty.
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
I stopped counting at the amount of possession he gave away.
Ultimately doesn't matter as we won.
Watch last nights MOTD and Tony Pulis’s take on Joe Allen.
He was our only recognised midfielder on the pitch .
Ramsey roams, Bale drifts, Joe does all the work
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
Its interesting to think of what they would have done if Wales had lost on Sunday. I wouldn't have thought that Bale and Allen would have stuck around beyond these Nations League games and Ramsey would probably have been one more long term injury away from retirement too.
Usually I'd say sport and sentiment aren't a good mix but having this World Cup as a final hurrah for a lot of those from the Tosh and ,more importantly, Speed eras (including stalwarts such as Gunter and Williams) feels very fitting to me.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
In short, no they will be ready for the world cup. Bale was clearly not fit enough for a game of that intensity and I suspect Rambo having a few niggles and not a massive amount of game time at Rangers.
If we're going to be a tiny bit critical at all maybe we played the wrong formation / starters/ players out of position to get the best out of them.
It reminded me a little bit of that period in the early 90s where we tried to play about 6 forwards - because they were our best individuals rather than what's best for the team.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Watch last nights MOTD and Tony Pulis’s take on Joe Allen.
He was our only recognised midfielder on the pitch .
Ramsey roams, Bale drifts, Joe does all the work
I don't need another person's take on it, I saw what I saw. He gave the ball away. Not even criticising him for it as like I said we won the game..
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
I don't need another person's take on it, I saw what I saw. He gave the ball away. Not even criticising him for it as like I said we won the game..
There was only one player that I constantly swore at throughout the game and that was Joe Allen. Gave it away so many times, very ponderous on the ball.
I’ve never forgiven him for celebrating in front of me and the rest of Block A mind.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Ramsey and Allen struggled with the ball movement of the Ukraine midfield at times, and Ramsey was getting ahead of the ball, which is his game so it's difficult to be critical. Overall though, they got the job done, so who gives a ****!
The World Cup is 3 games in 9 days, so I hope somebody is giving a **** :biggrin: There is also the possibility that Williams & Gunter will be blocking the path of players who can make a meaningful contribution on the pitch.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
I don't need another person's take on it, I saw what I saw. He gave the ball away. Not even criticising him for it as like I said we won the game..
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
There was only one player that I constantly swore at throughout the game and that was Joe Allen. Gave it away so many times, very ponderous on the ball.
I’ve never forgiven him for celebrating in front of me and the rest of Block A mind.
You 2 need to watch the game again
Joe Allen watch
2nd minute interception, wins ball but then commits a foul leading to a booking
4th minute interception passes to Ben
5th minute passes to a welsh player
6 minute passes to Ben
6 minute passes to Conner
6th minute passes to Bale
12th minute passes to Rodon
13th minute 2 passes to Wayne and Ramsey
14th minute won ball
15th minute 3 passes to Ben, Bale and Ramsey
18th minute passes to Rodon
20th minute pass to Conner
22nd minute pass to Ampadu
23rd minute pass to Bale
27th minute pass to Conner
29th minute interception passes to Ramsey
36th minute 2 interceptions
37th minute he’s fouled
39th minute penalty incident
HALF TIME
46th minute won ball
47th minute ball played off his boot
56th minute won ball passes to Ramsey
61st minute pass to Bale
67th minute lost the ball with 3 Ukraine players around him
71st minute fouled winning the ball
75th minute wins ball passes to Nico
76th minute wins defensive header
78th minute wins 2 headers
80th minute clearance from defence
86th minute wonderful defensive tackle near the 6 yard line, plus clearance
So he lost the ball twice
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
You 2 need to watch the game again
Joe Allen watch
2nd minute interception, wins ball but then commits a foul leading to a booking
4th minute interception passes to Ben
5th minute passes to a welsh player
6 minute passes to Ben
6 minute passes to Conner
6th minute passes to Bale
12th minute passes to Rodon
13th minute 2 passes to Wayne and Ramsey
14th minute won ball
15th minute 3 passes to Ben, Bale and Ramsey
18th minute passes to Rodon
20th minute pass to Conner
22nd minute pass to Ampadu
23rd minute pass to Bale
27th minute pass to Conner
29th minute interception passes to Ramsey
36th minute 2 interceptions
37th minute he’s fouled
39th minute penalty incident
HALF TIME
46th minute won ball
47th minute ball played off his boot
56th minute won ball passes to Ramsey
61st minute pass to Bale
67th minute lost the ball with 3 Ukraine players around him
71st minute fouled winning the ball
75th minute wins ball passes to Nico
76th minute wins defensive header
78th minute wins 2 headers
80th minute clearance from defence
86th minute wonderful defensive tackle near the 6 yard line, plus clearance
So he lost the ball twice
I really respect the commitment to this, fair play :hehe:
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
You 2 need to watch the game again
Joe Allen watch
2nd minute interception, wins ball but then commits a foul leading to a booking
4th minute interception passes to Ben
5th minute passes to a welsh player
6 minute passes to Ben
6 minute passes to Conner
6th minute passes to Bale
12th minute passes to Rodon
13th minute 2 passes to Wayne and Ramsey
14th minute won ball
15th minute 3 passes to Ben, Bale and Ramsey
18th minute passes to Rodon
20th minute pass to Conner
22nd minute pass to Ampadu
23rd minute pass to Bale
27th minute pass to Conner
29th minute interception passes to Ramsey
36th minute 2 interceptions
37th minute he’s fouled
39th minute penalty incident
HALF TIME
46th minute won ball
47th minute ball played off his boot
56th minute won ball passes to Ramsey
61st minute pass to Bale
67th minute lost the ball with 3 Ukraine players around him
71st minute fouled winning the ball
75th minute wins ball passes to Nico
76th minute wins defensive header
78th minute wins 2 headers
80th minute clearance from defence
86th minute wonderful defensive tackle near the 6 yard line, plus clearance
So he lost the ball twice
He was still a liability.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
Sparticus_Mills
He was still a liability.
Why? It was interesting to hear Tony Pulis go out of his way to praise, Ramsey and, in particular, Allen for how they played on Sunday - Pulis may be a bit one dimensional tactically, but he’s not tactically naive. No disrespect, but I’d take his word over yours and, also, Bluetit’s analysis does seem pretty conclusive.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
You 2 need to watch the game again
Joe Allen watch
2nd minute interception, wins ball but then commits a foul leading to a booking
4th minute interception passes to Ben
5th minute passes to a welsh player
6 minute passes to Ben
6 minute passes to Conner
6th minute passes to Bale
12th minute passes to Rodon
13th minute 2 passes to Wayne and Ramsey
14th minute won ball
15th minute 3 passes to Ben, Bale and Ramsey
18th minute passes to Rodon
20th minute pass to Conner
22nd minute pass to Ampadu
23rd minute pass to Bale
27th minute pass to Conner
29th minute interception passes to Ramsey
36th minute 2 interceptions
37th minute he’s fouled
39th minute penalty incident
HALF TIME
46th minute won ball
47th minute ball played off his boot
56th minute won ball passes to Ramsey
61st minute pass to Bale
67th minute lost the ball with 3 Ukraine players around him
71st minute fouled winning the ball
75th minute wins ball passes to Nico
76th minute wins defensive header
78th minute wins 2 headers
80th minute clearance from defence
86th minute wonderful defensive tackle near the 6 yard line, plus clearance
So he lost the ball twice
Brilliant! Please do this for every player and every game. This is better than WOL player ratings.
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
Carl Dale's Mole
Brilliant! Please do this for every player and every game. This is better than WOL player ratings.
F*** that, the Mrs wasn’t to pleased, I didn’t get to bed till 1.00am :hehe:
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
F*** that, the Mrs wasn’t to pleased, I didn’t get to bed till 1.00am :hehe:
:hehe: worth it!
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
You 2 need to watch the game again
Joe Allen watch
2nd minute interception, wins ball but then commits a foul leading to a booking
4th minute interception passes to Ben
5th minute passes to a welsh player
6 minute passes to Ben
6 minute passes to Conner
6th minute passes to Bale
12th minute passes to Rodon
13th minute 2 passes to Wayne and Ramsey
14th minute won ball
15th minute 3 passes to Ben, Bale and Ramsey
18th minute passes to Rodon
20th minute pass to Conner
22nd minute pass to Ampadu
23rd minute pass to Bale
27th minute pass to Conner
29th minute interception passes to Ramsey
36th minute 2 interceptions
37th minute he’s fouled
39th minute penalty incident
HALF TIME
46th minute won ball
47th minute ball played off his boot
56th minute won ball passes to Ramsey
61st minute pass to Bale
67th minute lost the ball with 3 Ukraine players around him
71st minute fouled winning the ball
75th minute wins ball passes to Nico
76th minute wins defensive header
78th minute wins 2 headers
80th minute clearance from defence
86th minute wonderful defensive tackle near the 6 yard line, plus clearance
So he lost the ball twice
I still don’t agree but respectfully concede as you are way more committed than I’ll ever be 🤣
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
Been anywhere nice with Joe this week Tony? You do seem very close:hehe:
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
PhyllisStant
In short, no they will be ready for the world cup. Bale was clearly not fit enough for a game of that intensity and I suspect Rambo having a few niggles and not a massive amount of game time at Rangers.
If we're going to be a tiny bit critical at all maybe we played the wrong formation / starters/ players out of position to get the best out of them.
It reminded me a little bit of that period in the early 90s where we tried to play about 6 forwards - because they were our best individuals rather than what's best for the team.
It reminded me of the days in the early 70s when we seemed to play Tosh, Wyn Davies and Ron Davies as three forwards, but no one to really supply them with the ball
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
You 2 need to watch the game again
Joe Allen watch
2nd minute interception, wins ball but then commits a foul leading to a booking
4th minute interception passes to Ben
5th minute passes to a welsh player
6 minute passes to Ben
6 minute passes to Conner
6th minute passes to Bale
12th minute passes to Rodon
13th minute 2 passes to Wayne and Ramsey
14th minute won ball
15th minute 3 passes to Ben, Bale and Ramsey
18th minute passes to Rodon
20th minute pass to Conner
22nd minute pass to Ampadu
23rd minute pass to Bale
27th minute pass to Conner
29th minute interception passes to Ramsey
36th minute 2 interceptions
37th minute he’s fouled
39th minute penalty incident
HALF TIME
46th minute won ball
47th minute ball played off his boot
56th minute won ball passes to Ramsey
61st minute pass to Bale
67th minute lost the ball with 3 Ukraine players around him
71st minute fouled winning the ball
75th minute wins ball passes to Nico
76th minute wins defensive header
78th minute wins 2 headers
80th minute clearance from defence
86th minute wonderful defensive tackle near the 6 yard line, plus clearance
So he lost the ball twice
tremendous work.
what does "ball played off his boot" mean though?
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
tremendous work.
what does "ball played off his boot" mean though?
He went in for a challenge with 2 or 3 Ukrainians and one of them kicked the ball onto his boot
Think it rebounded to Bale
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
He went in for a challenge with 2 or 3 Ukrainians and one of them kicked the ball onto his boot
Think it rebounded to Bale
A better player would have controlled that :fishing:
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
You 2 need to watch the game again
Joe Allen watch
2nd minute interception, wins ball but then commits a foul leading to a booking
4th minute interception passes to Ben
5th minute passes to a welsh player
6 minute passes to Ben
6 minute passes to Conner
6th minute passes to Bale
12th minute passes to Rodon
13th minute 2 passes to Wayne and Ramsey
14th minute won ball
15th minute 3 passes to Ben, Bale and Ramsey
18th minute passes to Rodon
20th minute pass to Conner
22nd minute pass to Ampadu
23rd minute pass to Bale
27th minute pass to Conner
29th minute interception passes to Ramsey
36th minute 2 interceptions
37th minute he’s fouled
39th minute penalty incident
HALF TIME
46th minute won ball
47th minute ball played off his boot
56th minute won ball passes to Ramsey
61st minute pass to Bale
67th minute lost the ball with 3 Ukraine players around him
71st minute fouled winning the ball
75th minute wins ball passes to Nico
76th minute wins defensive header
78th minute wins 2 headers
80th minute clearance from defence
86th minute wonderful defensive tackle near the 6 yard line, plus clearance
So he lost the ball twice
No ****ing way they actually just turned this into a WOL article :hehe::
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...dence-24180625
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Re: Have the old guard run out of steam?
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Originally Posted by
Carl Dale's Mole
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
Plagiarism at it’s finest :hehe: