Transfer- the emiliano sala story- new 9 part podcast on bbc sounds

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p...n=share-mobile

Haven't seen this mentioned yet but they certainly advertising it a lot at the moment.

All I've seen is that it's 'coming soon' but without any dates as to when.

Got a bad feeling about this.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

All I've seen is that it's 'coming soon' but without any dates as to when

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Maybe they are waiting for the outcome to be announced before showing so they can include it in the ending??

Feels far too early for my liking - but I suppose we live in an instant gratification society where patience is a virtue is a thing of the past.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

Feels far too early for my liking - but I suppose we live in an instant gratification society where patience is a virtue is a thing of the past.

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Far too early? The tragedy happened three and a half years ago, a man was jailed in November of last year as a result of it and the inquest concluded in March of this year. This is hardly an instant reaction.

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Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole

Got a bad feeling about this.

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Considering we signed McKay’s sons who are terrible at football, it won’t be a great look for the club, or Warnock and Dalman

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Far too early? The tragedy happened three and a half years ago, a man was jailed in November of last year as a result of it and the inquest concluded in March of this year. This is hardly an instant reaction.

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So everythings sorted and the family’s been compensated...i must have missed that Gunman.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

So everythings sorted and the family’s been compensated...i must have missed that Gunman.

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Who are you expecting the family to be compensated by?

What sort of audience would this get ? 50,000 ?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Who are you expecting the family to be compensated by?

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Nantes or CCFC

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

Nantes or CCFC

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Why?

I mean, it depends how long each episode is, but 9 parts seems a bit excessive..

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I mean, it depends how long each episode is, but 9 parts seems a bit excessive..

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It's quite a story with many facets. Hopefully, the producers of the podcast have engaged in some proper investigative journalism, because the efforts of the local press have been incredibly weak.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

It's quite a story with many facets. Hopefully, the producers of the podcast have engaged in some proper investigative journalism, because the efforts of the local press have been incredibly weak.

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I agree on the story, but 9 parts still seems ambitious on the topic.

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

Why?

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If my employers have death in service insurance in place for the workforce - then I'm pretty sure football clubs have it too.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

If my employers have death in service insurance in place for the workforce - then I'm pretty sure football clubs have it too.

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Which teams' insurance should pay out in this case?

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

If my employers have death in service insurance in place for the workforce - then I'm pretty sure football clubs have it too.

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Football clubs pay tens of thousands of pounds a week wages, does your employer do that too?

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Which teams' insurance should pay out in this case?

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Is that the Nantes insurers who are saying (I assume) that Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff player at the time of his death and covered by their insurance, or the Cardiff insurers who are saying (again I assume) the opposite. And with either or both accept the CAS ruling in a month or two as the final word on that - or not?

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

If my employers have death in service insurance in place for the workforce - then I'm pretty sure football clubs have it too.

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No football clubs wouldn't have death in service, the players are on short term contracts, it's down the players to look after themselves and families. And even if we did it would be directly with the insurance company nothing to do with Cardiff City or Nantes!

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

No football clubs wouldn't have death in service, the players are on short term contracts, it's down the players to look after themselves and families. And even if we did it would be directly with the insurance company nothing to do with Cardiff City or Nantes!

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Okay I stand corrected.....But I still believe that to do podcasts or make a film before the whole outcome is not cool.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

Okay I stand corrected.....But I still believe that to do podcasts or make a film before the whole outcome is not cool.

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Just as obits are already written in the main before an individual dies, the journalist concerned has probably sourced all the material required up until this particular juncture and some extra information will be added after the upcoming decision and before the podcast ends.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

No football clubs wouldn't have death in service, the players are on short term contracts, it's down the players to look after themselves and families. And even if we did it would be directly with the insurance company nothing to do with Cardiff City or Nantes!

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So if a club pays out £15m for a player, you don't think that they would want to protect their investment and interests by having the player insured against serious injury or death whilst he is employed by them ? Thats a nonsense to me and as far as I am aware most, if not all, clubs would have this type of cover and automatically add new players to it. That in effect is the crux of the argument here I think, if he was a Cardiff player he would be insured by us and if not he would be insured by Nantes. Who is liable ? Also if you make a claim on an employers insurance, you don't go direct to their insurance company, you submit the claim to the employers and they pass it on.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

If my employers have death in service insurance in place for the workforce - then I'm pretty sure football clubs have it too.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

No football clubs wouldn't have death in service, the players are on short term contracts, it's down the players to look after themselves and families. And even if we did it would be directly with the insurance company nothing to do with Cardiff City or Nantes!

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From several news stories over the past few years my understanding is that the PFA carries insurance for all UK players registered with them and pays out to the player or his/her family in the case of serious injury through to death. Stories like the one below claim that Sala's family would have been entitled to £600k (not sure if true or how a scale of payments is determined) but he hadn't ben registered with them at the time of his death.

The story goes with the line that Cardiff made an admin error which meant the contract and registration were invalid or incomplete. I'm not sure about the Cardiff 'error', but the club has consistently argued that the contract was invalid and had to be amended and re-signed, and that was planned for the day after Sala returned to Cardiff from Nantes.

https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/EP...-error/1109457

'Players are automatically enrolled onto the Professional Footballers’ Association’s pension scheme when they are registered with the Premier League, and that includes a £600,000 fee to relatives for death-in-service.'

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Originally Posted by jon1959

From several news stories over the past few years my understanding is that the PFA carries insurance for all UK players registered with them and pays out to the player or his/her family in the case of serious injury through to death. Stories like the one below claim that Sala's family would have been entitled to £600k (not sure if true or how a scale of payments is determined) but he hadn't ben registered with them at the time of his death.

The story goes with the line that Cardiff made an admin error which meant the contract and registration were invalid or incomplete. I'm not sure about the Cardiff 'error', but the club has consistently argued that the contract was invalid and had to be amended and re-signed, and that was planned for the day after Sala returned to Cardiff from Nantes.

https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/EP...-error/1109457

'Players are automatically enrolled onto the Professional Footballers’ Association’s pension scheme when they are registered with the Premier League, and that includes a £600,000 fee to relatives for death-in-service.'

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Thanks for clearing that up Jon.