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UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles
Telegraph saying Wolves might recall Giles
Oh good. :facepalm:
Let's hope Wolves find a few quid and can strengthen.
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That'll be us down then
It was a good run while it lasted
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Huge player for us, gave us width today and always the outlet for smithies.
If anything we need someone like him on the right.
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He's such a big player for us, always gives us an outlet and makes others play too.
Let's pray they can do without him.
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City123
That'll be us down then
It was a good run while it lasted
On the bright side, chances for Bagan and Davies. Two of our own :thumbup:
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dembethewarrior
On the bright side, chances for Bagan and Davies. Two of our own :thumbup:
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dembethewarrior
On the bright side, chances for Bagan and Davies. Two of our own :thumbup:
I'm not so sure that's a great idea. Bagan seemed to go backwards this season. Playing in a crap team is not necessarily brilliant for your development, especially replacing one of our most important players.
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Pedro de la Rosa
I'm not so sure that's a great idea. Bagan seemed to go backwards this season. Playing in a crap team is not necessarily brilliant for your development, especially replacing one of our most important players.
I wouldn't say he seemed to go backwards. He's not as much of an attacking threat as Giles but I can't really remember him being exposed. And he's been playing well for the U23s.
Everyone said a the start of the season that we have to be patient with the younger players and they will have good games and poor games, but as soon as they are slightly off the boil everyone forgets that in a heartbeat
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Rjk
I wouldn't say he seemed to go backwards. He's not as much of an attacking threat as Giles but I can't really remember him being exposed. And he's been playing well for the U23s.
Everyone said a the start of the season that we have to be patient with the younger players and they will have good games and poor games, but as soon as they are slightly off the boil everyone forgets that in a heartbeat
I agree, I'd definitely like to see Bagan given another chance; preferably at the expense of Nelson. I'm not keen on three centrebacks in the same team.
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Pedro de la Rosa
I'm not so sure that's a great idea. Bagan seemed to go backwards this season. Playing in a crap team is not necessarily brilliant for your development, especially replacing one of our most important players.
Bagan certainly went backward at the start of the season (and end of last?). But his call up to the Ireland u21s was a boost and some of his performances for the u23s before Christmas - especially his link up play with Chanka Zimba - were very good. I may be wrong, but from memory Bagan is less of a crosser (where Giles excels) and more of a direct runner and threat in the box. Giles is clearly a better player now based on his stats compared to Bagan's in the first team, but I think Bagan will come back stronger if/when he gets the chance. Even if Giles stays the full season he is likely to be back with Wolves in the summer and we need to develop or acquire two reliable LB/LWB options. I hope Bagan is one of them.
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Pedro de la Rosa
I'm not so sure that's a great idea. Bagan seemed to go backwards this season. Playing in a crap team is not necessarily brilliant for your development, especially replacing one of our most important players.
He is an important player, Giles, but he's not one of ours :thumbup:
We won't have him next season and will have to make do with what WE have. If he goes back, so be it, a chance for someone else to step up. Let's not write them off before they try...
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The problem is Giles was the only player with any quality on the pitch yesterday and no one else looked like creating anything.
I’m all for getting younger players we own in the team but at the expense of the only player with any real quality would be madness.
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Croesy Blue
The problem is Giles was the only player with any quality on the pitch yesterday and no one else looked like creating anything.
I’m all for getting younger players we own in the team but at the expense of the only player with any real quality would be madness.
That was clearly a tactical choice - we went for a solid midfield three in this match and against Bournemouth, and we attacked their left side where they had a youngster up against Giles.
I would expect someone like colwill to start against Preston for example.
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Croesy Blue
The problem is Giles was the only player with any quality on the pitch yesterday and no one else looked like creating anything.
I’m all for getting younger players we own in the team but at the expense of the only player with any real quality would be madness.
It's not at the expense.
It's if he goes.
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Giles gone back to Wolves.
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he could still come back here on loan
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Sanderson also recalled from Birmingham.
it is possible they'll have a look at them during the cup game and then loan them back out again
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Sensible decision given the Covid situation. Doubt he’ll play for them but if they start losing players he may be needed to fill the bench.
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Croesy Blue
The problem is Giles was the only player with any quality on the pitch yesterday and no one else looked like creating anything.
I’m all for getting younger players we own in the team but at the expense of the only player with any real quality would be madness.
Yesterday he seemed to be the only one capable of carrying the ball.
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Could this see a change in formation away from the 5 at the back?
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City123
Could this see a change in formation away from the 5 at the back?
442 against Blackburn with Murphy and Whyte on the wings?
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Rjk
I wouldn't say he seemed to go backwards. He's not as much of an attacking threat as Giles but I can't really remember him being exposed. And he's been playing well for the U23s.
Everyone said a the start of the season that we have to be patient with the younger players and they will have good games and poor games, but as soon as they are slightly off the boil everyone forgets that in a heartbeat
But Bagan wasn't having good games and bad games. He was playing consistently poorly when he was in the team at the start of the season.
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LeningradCowboy
But Bagan wasn't having good games and bad games. He was playing consistently poorly when he was in the team at the start of the season.
I don't agree
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LeningradCowboy
But Bagan wasn't having good games and bad games. He was playing consistently poorly when he was in the team at the start of the season.
Simply put Bagan wasn’t good enough. He failed to stop so many crosses
He’s a youngster, he will come good, but 10 times out of 10 Giles starts in whatever formation ahead of Bagan
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Undercoverinwurzelland
442 against Blackburn with Murphy and Whyte on the wings?
I see no point in us recalling Murphy, I'd rather play Evans or Davies
Isn't he injured anyway?
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WJ99mobile
Simply put Bagan wasn’t good enough. He failed to stop so many crosses
He’s a youngster, he will come good, but 10 times out of 10 Giles starts in whatever formation ahead of Bagan
You'd find fault in Roberto Carlos and Cafu
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It’s a huge blow no doubt about it. He needs replacing asap or a left back brought in to play a flat back four.
I don’t see Bagan being the answer in a back 4 or 5
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dembethewarrior
You'd find fault in Roberto Carlos and Cafu
No chance. My all time favourite fullbacks 😍
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WJ99mobile
No chance. My all time favourite fullbacks 😍
Not if they played for us :hehe:
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WJ99mobile
Simply put Bagan wasn’t good enough. He failed to stop so many crosses
He’s a youngster, he will come good, but 10 times out of 10 Giles starts in whatever formation ahead of Bagan
Sure Giles is ahead of him, I think he will come good, and it is a lot more likely to happen if he gets some game time.
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IanD
Bagan it is then.
Or Wintle into midfield and Ralls to the left?
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City123
I see no point in us recalling Murphy, I'd rather play Evans or Davies
Isn't he injured anyway?
I would too. Stranger things have happened though.
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the other bob wilson
Or Wintle into midfield and Ralls to the left?
I hope not.
Ralls can cover LWB but hes not the answer there. Plus we need pace there.
Add that to Ralls is our best central midfielder.
We need a couple of loans to secure our Championship status.
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Rjk
I wouldn't say he seemed to go backwards. He's not as much of an attacking threat as Giles but I can't really remember him being exposed. And he's been playing well for the U23s.
Everyone said a the start of the season that we have to be patient with the younger players and they will have good games and poor games, but as soon as they are slightly off the boil everyone forgets that in a heartbeat
Bagan, and Ng, were absolutely abysmal under Mick this season. Bagan was especially poor, and Morison agrees as he's not had a sniff. Similar as Sang, which is a bit odd.
We're in big trouble, I think we'll have to get someone in or (hopefully) play a back 4 with... Bagan or Brown at left back... eek.
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City123
I see no point in us recalling Murphy, I'd rather play Evans or Davies
Isn't he injured anyway?
He's injured. He's played 70 minutes all season.
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Hilts
I hope not.
Ralls can cover LWB but hes not the answer there. Plus we need pace there.
Add that to Ralls is our best central midfielder.
We need a couple of loans to secure our Championship status.
Could well be our best chance.
Lukaku's out of favour and Pogba's not getting a look in.