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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
But those lives are included in it because so many black people are involved in that because they're born into abject poverty with no chance. You do realise how tiny the percentage of black people involved in gang activity actually is too don't you?
Remember black lives matter means black lives matter too, so if you saying black life matter doesn't sit right with you because of that you're saying black lives shouldn't matter as much due to the actions of 0.001% of the black population. Plenty of white people kill people but we don't think our lives should matter less because of it.
Adz posted a good video on BLM a few pages back, it's definitely worth watching if you have any issues with it. It really helped clear up some points for me.
Listen to somebody that actually knows what they are talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAGnzjq-7KI
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Harry Paget Flashman
Bet you've got a big black spot on your tongue.
100% :hehe:
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I must admit, i got a lot more, and took a lot more from that interview with Shelby Steele, than the link Adz and Croesy put up.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
I must admit, i got a lot more, and took a lot more from that interview with Shelby Steele, than the link Adz and Croesy put up.
Maybe look up who Shelby Steel is and who he's being interviewed by. In that video he says racism is over with in that, how can you believe that.
You are "learning" from it because it leans into your political biases. Don't base your opinion on what one black voice is saying when there are thousands of others saying different things to him.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Maybe look up who Shelby Steel is and who he's being interviewed by. In that video he says racism is over with in that, how can you believe that.
You are "learning" from it because it leans into your political biases. Don't base your opinion on what one black voice is saying when there are thousands of others saying different things to him.
But for the purposes of balance, as one opf our PM's said "Just because I'm in a minority of 1 doesn't mean I'm wrong.2 And as it turned out wasn't wrong! I think you should look at both sides but not believe 100% of either.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
But for the purposes of balance, as one opf our PM's said "Just because I'm in a minority of 1 doesn't mean I'm wrong.2 And as it turned out wasn't wrong! I think you should look at both sides but not believe 100% of either.
I've watched the interview, he's clearly a very well educated and intelligent guy but he's also out of touch or had his own agenda.
I don't really understand what point you're trying to make tbh.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I've watched the interview, he's clearly a very well educated and intelligent guy but he's also out of touch or had his own agenda.
I don't really understand what point you're trying to make tbh.
Just that, as you say, he shouldn't just agree with the person because it suits his agenda. There are good and bad points on both sideso f the argument. nothing more.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
I must admit, i got a lot more, and took a lot more from that interview with Shelby Steele, than the link Adz and Croesy put up.
Hes a right wing conservative who has for years opposed positive discrimination and opposed the election of America's first black president .
And that interview is with FOX news , just about the most right wing conservative news channel on american mainstream tv
Hes clearly a very intelligent man but most black African americans dont agree with him
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
I must admit, i got a lot more, and took a lot more from that interview with Shelby Steele, than the link Adz and Croesy put up.
If I’m honest between “learning a lot more” from a conservative author on Fox News and using the death of lee rigby to try and point score over the protests, it sums up either how biased or ignorant you are. It’s not worth discussing it with you because you won’t even bother to see where you’re wrong.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Maybe look up who Shelby Steel is and who he's being interviewed by. In that video he says racism is over with in that, how can you believe that.
You are "learning" from it because it leans into your political biases. Don't base your opinion on what one black voice is saying when there are thousands of others saying different things to him.
I think it’s fair to say that your bias confirmation is there also due to him having a different political ethos to you as well.
The fact that he is being interviewed by Fox shouldn’t make a difference, plenty of videos of him speaking with multiple outlets.
Is your opinion of Thomas Sowell the same?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
I think it’s fair to say that your bias confirmation is there also due to him having a different political ethos to you as well.
The fact that he is being interviewed by Fox shouldn’t make a difference, plenty of videos of him speaking with multiple outlets.
Is your opinion of Thomas Sowell the same?
It isn't him speaking on fox news that makes me disagree with him, it's what is coming out of his mouth. Do you honestly watch that and think he speaks sense?
I don't know who Thomas Sowell is.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Maybe look up who Shelby Steel is and who he's being interviewed by. In that video he says racism is over with in that, how can you believe that.
You are "learning" from it because it leans into your political biases. Don't base your opinion on what one black voice is saying when there are thousands of others saying different things to him.
I know who Shelby Steele is, and he is on Fox because the liberal left media don't want him to ruin their well crafted narrative that people of color cannot survive without the help of the Democratic Party, and it's a total fraud.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
I must admit, i got a lot more, and took a lot more from that interview with Shelby Steele, than the link Adz and Croesy put up.
What did you get from it, if you don't mind me asking?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
[QUOTE=Wales-Bales;5085994]I know who Shelby Steele is, and he is on Fox because the liberal left media don't want him to ruin their well crafted narrative that people of color cannot survive without the help of the Democratic Party, and it's a total fraud
Hes on fox because hes a well known conservative who has opposed positive discrimination and Barack Obama
And fox is a station that is perfect for him as they think exactly the same way
Which is the way you think
Which is why you posted the interview
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
Mad how racism existing has become a “liberal left” thing.
Would you really want to align yourself with a political ideology that believes that racism isn’t real?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
I think it’s fair to say that your bias confirmation is there also due to him having a different political ethos to you as well.
The fact that he is being interviewed by Fox shouldn’t make a difference, plenty of videos of him speaking with multiple outlets.
Is your opinion of Thomas Sowell the same?
My opinion of Sowell is that hes a very intelligent man
But I totally disagree with him
Hes a right wing libertarian free market capitalist
And he doesnt believe in gun control
That's all I need to know
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Mad how racism existing has become a “liberal left” thing.
Would you really want to align yourself with a political ideology that believes that racism isn’t real?
So now you are taking it upon yourself to speak on behalf of other people? Let them speak for themselves bro, even if they don't all agree about the same things. It's not your debate, so stop telling people what's good for them, you sound just like the Democratic Party does.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
So now you are taking it upon yourself to speak on behalf of other people? Let them speak for themselves bro, even if they don't agree on all the same things. It's not your debate, so stop telling people what's good for them, you sound just like the Democratic Party does.
Racism should not even be a debate
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
adz-a32
Racism should not even be a debate
Tell that to the media.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
adz-a32
Racism should not even be a debate
Exactly how can people say racism doesn't exist? And how can solidarity be a bad thing.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Tell that to the media.
Nah, I should tell that to Trump, Tommy Robinson etc. Racism should not exist but they are pushing an agenda to keep racism existing
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Exactly how can people say racism doesn't exist? And how can solidarity be a bad thing.
Because they are...
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
I don't tell lies.
People who tell the truth AND those who lie would make that same statement.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
People who tell the truth AND those who lie would make that same statement.
Liar!!!
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
adz-a32
Nah, I should tell that to Trump, Tommy Robinson etc. Racism should not exist but they are pushing an agenda to keep racism existing
Yeah, just look at all of these racists sitting in the same room..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ3YkWecvCk