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Universal Credit , same old tories
Not only is it a complete balls up , it's going to cost 500 Million more than expected and will not be rolled out till 2024
Iain Duncan Smith , a legend in his own lunchtime
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Not only is it a complete balls up , it's going to cost 500 Million more than expected and will not be rolled out till 2024
SIR Iain Duncan Smith , a legend in his own lunchtime
Edited for you.
That's what Tories give you for being an utter bastard to people who need welfare...a knighthood.
Let alone the bollocks he made over UC.
Thank goodness I have never needed it.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
jeremy corbyn
Edited for you.
That's what Tories give you for being an utter bastard to people who need welfare...a knighthood.
Let alone the bollocks he made over UC.
Thank goodness I have never needed it.
A series following the disaster that is universal credit starts at 9pm on bbc2 tomorrow
Idiots , all done to tramp down on the poor
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
They'll still be voted back into office at the next election, possibly making more gains in Wales
I despair
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
The Universal Credit of today is not the one that was first announced and is not the same one which needed many flaws fixed through court challenges, although flaws within the system still exist. Will be interesting to see result of Scotland aiming to fix benefits system and if that can be taken into Wales/the UK.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
Didn't Ian Duncan Smith resign over the budget huge cuts to Universal Credit which caused the problems with roll out? I think George Osborne was the villain and not IDS.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
Didn't Ian Duncan Smith resign over the budget huge cuts to Universal Credit which caused the problems with roll out? I think George Osborne was the villain and not IDS.
Wasn't this back in 2016 before the Brexit referendum? I think IDS stated that he resigned more over cuts to PIPs, though he was also arguably pushed as he wasn't popular with Cameron and Osborne, and also sat on the opposite side of the EU fence to them. Me thinks politics was most likely in progress here and he used PIPs as a reason for resigning to make him look like the good guy while being able to set his own EU agenda.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
Didn't Ian Duncan Smith resign over the budget huge cuts to Universal Credit which caused the problems with roll out? I think George Osborne was the villain and not IDS.
your right
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
your right
You're both wrong. It was over cuts to PIP :facepalm:
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
You're both wrong. It was over cuts to PIP :facepalm:
It was both related.
Iain Duncan Smith*has resigned as work and pensions secretary over cuts to disability benefits, in the most dramatic cabinet departure of David Cameron’s leadership.
In a sign that divisions over Europe have heightened tensions in the*Conservatives, the former party leader stormed out of his job, saying he thought the cuts to welfare for disabled people known as personal independence payments (PIP) were a “compromise too far”.
The Guardian view on Iain Duncan Smith: a very political resignation
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Read more
Duncan Smith, who is campaigning to leave the EU in opposition to Downing Street, said he had too often felt under pressure to make huge welfare savings before a budget in a stinging critique of George Osborne’s entire approach to reducing the deficit.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
It was both related.
Iain Duncan Smith*has resigned as work and pensions secretary over cuts to disability benefits, in the most dramatic cabinet departure of David Cameron’s leadership.
In a sign that divisions over Europe have heightened tensions in the*Conservatives, the former party leader stormed out of his job, saying he thought the cuts to welfare for disabled people known as personal independence payments (PIP) were a “compromise too far”.
The Guardian view on Iain Duncan Smith: a very political resignation
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Read more
Duncan Smith, who is campaigning to leave the EU in opposition to Downing Street, said he had too often felt under pressure to make huge welfare savings before a budget in a stinging critique of George Osborne’s entire approach to reducing the deficit.
Read it again... Slowly.
"cuts to disability benefits"
"cuts to welfare for disabled people known as personal independence payments (PIP)"
Nowhere does it mention UC... which isn't a disability benefit.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
Read it again... Slowly.
"cuts to disability benefits"
"cuts to welfare for disabled people known as personal independence payments (PIP)"
Nowhere does it mention UC... which isn't a disability benefit.
If you say so , as long as your happy its fine . Lol
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
Tories have totally effed this up, as they have effed the rules on detaining the terror brigade, they (Labour) better have their act together for the next GE, it should be easy pickings next time.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
If you say so , as long as your happy its fine . Lol
IDS said so LOLOL!!! :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
IDS said so LOLOL!!! :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
Its like being in school ,na,na,na,na.
To help settle you down, you win .
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Its like being in school ,na,na,na,na.
To help settle you down, you win .
I know. You were wrong to start with.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
Duncan smith resigned over personal independence payments
It wasnt for any moral support of the disabled , he wouldnt have ended dla which was replaced by pip if he had morals
He did it because his ego had been bruised
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Its like being in school ,na,na,na,na.
To help settle you down, you win .
I am afraid hes right
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
Surprised no-one has made mention of the BBC series UC, Inside the Welfare State.
The first two episodes can be watched on BBC iPlayer, and episode 3 will be available after it's broadcast next week - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00...episodes/guide
You need to register an email address first though to view.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Surprised no-one has made mention of the BBC series UC, Inside the 7Welfare State.
The first two episodes can be watched on BBC iPlayer, and episode 3 will be available after it's broadcast next week -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00...episodes/guide
You need to register an email address first though to view.
It is because of this programme I made the thread
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Argh, got you.
Not so much mind-reading as reading then!
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Not so much mind-reading as reading then!
Organs got a dodgy past , theft , fraud , daylight robbery etc but hes not very bright and he needs time and understanding
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Not so much mind-reading as reading then!
I'd overlooked Sludgey's second post in this thread.
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Re: Universal Credit , same old tories
Well this welfare reform thing isn't going too well
The problem is , the people it isn't going very well for is the claimants
It was almost laughable watching Theresa Coffey the new dwp secretary dismiss the rise in the use of food banks with problems in the running of universal credit
The way these tories just blatantly tow the party line in the face of such overwhelming evidence is staggering
What do these people know about poverty ?
Absolutely **** all