It has now become de rigeur for players, not just footballers, to involve themselves in this superstitious semaphore before entering and leaving the pitch. Anyone able to explain the reason behind it?
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It has now become de rigeur for players, not just footballers, to involve themselves in this superstitious semaphore before entering and leaving the pitch. Anyone able to explain the reason behind it?
Do you really need that to be explained to you ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pomeroy
Maybe they believe in God, maybe they feel that it gives them strength, maybe it's a bit fashionable (The south Americans and Spanish have done it for years) who cares?Quote:
Originally Posted by pomeroy
spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch
Perhaps they're all fans of the classic 1990 caper - Nuns on the run.
Has to be based on their religious beliefs doesn't it and as you said, it's very commonplace amongst South American and the Spanish, who generally are very staunch Catholics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Yes please. Is it meant to offer some protection against an impending event such as getting injured, scoring an own goal, the other side winning, the other side losing ( if you’d had a sly bet on this ) , being loaned to Swansea or remembering that you left the stew on a low light and you need someone to switch it off. What is the footballer who has an AK47 tattooed on his leg entreating for. Why do 100 metres runners do it? after all the race hardly lasts 10 seconds. Why do boxers do it?. Is it to enable them to batter an opponent better. After all it’s just man made mumbo jumbo like the tooth fairy and the boogie man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
Yes please let me know the reasons.
The final sentence is your opinion. Millions of people take strength from faith. You obviously don't, neither do i, although i have great difficulty in ridiculing another persons religious beliefs, as simple as religion may come across to many of us, i believe that it's just as simple to ridicule it. We could pick and pull at every aspect of our thoughts and actions until there isn't anything worth doing or thinking about in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by pomeroy
I always wonder when they show this religious behaviour, how religious they are in their actual life .Quote:
Originally Posted by pomeroy
There's no remit to how dedicated you are to whatever god you may believe in. A lot of people who are critical of religion seem to struggle with that concept.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I have sometimes wondered about this. Whether it’s a just a mark of respect/faith before undertaking a sport or whether the person is hoping for some divine intervention. I suppose it it differs by person.
You have missed the point. I am not ridiculing religious belief although I could quite easily I am merely asking why many who obviously have no religious belief feel it necessary to intone this voodoo signage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
I've not missed the point. How do you know a persons beliefs, how is it obvious to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by pomeroy
You do sound a bit like you're ridiculing religious belief tbfQuote:
Originally Posted by pomeroy
Believe it or not it’s very important to some people, my mother couldn’t pass a Catholic Church without crossing herself, indeed I used to myself when I was younger, it was the way I and many of my mates were brought up. It’s something that’s faded away I s’pose in this country but as shown by Latin players it’s still prevalent in some parts of the world. I notice that the Muslim players point both index fingers skyward and utter a few words of prayer. Proddie Woddies just pretend to play the flute:hehe:
I can understand as a sign of their faith why some sportsmen cross themselves. However, occasionally I wonder if they've really thought things through. An example was when Zach Johnson won his first golf major and said repeatedly "I'd like to thank the Lord". I can understand that as a devout Christian it was important for him give thanks but......hey wait a minute, why didn't the good Lord smile down on the other competitors instead of old Zach ? Was he that much more devout than his rivals ? If I came runner up yet never missed a Bible class I would be asking some serious questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
:hehe: Because if you were a devout christian then you would accept that it was gods plan for you to finish runner up :hehe: it's not a bad gig in all honesty, if your prayers are answered, then bingo, if not, that's what he had planned for you :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
Literally the very argument I've heard time and time again. The day we leave religion behind will be a good day for the human race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
and a shit day for arms manufacturers too hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
Oh I don't know about that, religion is merely an excuse most of the time. Man will fight over anything, mostly resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
I was brought up a Catholic but I think religion is bollocks . I try but don't always succeed , to do my best and be helpful and kind but have plenty of bad traits . Anyone who thinks they are all goody goody is lying . Even priests must have the odd wank.
A lot of my mothers mates are catholics and before this pandemic were all good and holy collecting for food banks and taking the isolated to church etc
But now its a struggle to get an occasional phone call , the selfish non Christian gene steps in and its all me me me
There are a group of people out there in Cardiff every night delivering sleeping bags , clean underwear , socks , deodorant etc to the street homeless and they are doing it because they are good people not because they think doing good things will get them into paradise and eternal life .
I reckon if there is a god then if you do more good than bad , he will let you have eternal life wether or not you pray everyday or not so thats my philosophy
I don't go to church on Sunday morning , I go fishing
One of my favourite pics takes out of religion is from Derek and Clive
Peter Cook says to Dudley Moore ......this Jesus fella , do you think on the whole he was a good bloke ?
No , I think he was probably a **** says Dudley
If Jesus and God do exist I am sure they can see the funny side of that and let us non believers in
amenQuote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
praise the Lord , Jack that is ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Yep, fingers crossed although power hungry fools will always find something to go to war over.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
God bless youQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Peace be with youQuote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
And also with you
Sports people are generally pretty superstitious generally, so perhaps it isn't surprising that there is a greater prevalence of religion amongst them.
When a big part of your career is determined by luck then I guess you'll take any help you can get.
Interestingly it seems (to me anway) that there is less open displays of religious adherence amongst managers than amongst players. i wonder why that is.
Dont know, but given that its usually a managers job that is on the line if a team goes on a bad run, and not the players, youd think they'd have more to pray for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
On the other hand it is on the manager to make decisions and lead - if the players see them looking for divine assistance maybe it doesn't send the best messageQuote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Praying to God or whoever may give people confidence etc and if they win then they can believe its god if they want but its clearly bollocksQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Its like the Christian who is involved in a serious accident and after months of highly skilled surgery and rehabilitation by medical staff is able to walk again and says its thanks to God that they have been saved . Of course they are entitled to believe that but its bollocks .
Because other Christians, and indeed non Christians, who fail to walk again or indeed die from their injuries are not saved , despite being either Christian and good and holy or just decent people who don't go to church .
Either God doesn't exist or he's a fussy git
..and while we're at it..what's this "bless you " bollocks that some idiots say after a sneeze?
Valerie is JesusQuote:
Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
I hope whoever "wins" this bit of land will remember this little girl and asks themselves was it ever worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-54650502
Isnt that to do with plague back in the 14th century? If you sneezed it was the first sign that youd caught the plague and were off to meet your Maker pretty soon. People would say God Bless You if they saw you sneeze.Quote:
Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
These days youd say - wear a fcuking mask you covidiot and keep your germs to yourself.
Scottish boxing ref. Victor Laughlan always says God Bless as the two fighters touch gloves!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
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Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
That's to do with the black death. First symptoms were sneezing. Many blessed them sneezing as it was thought they would die soon.
There is also some proof that most roman crucifixions were done on wood from olive trees, as this was abundant at the time. Olive timbre is short branches and not large timber as in pine/oak/ash etc. Therefor people were crucified on the shape of an "X" (still a cross though)
Players should be coming onto the pitch doing the "X Factor" sign... lol