Re: if Kieffer moore leaves
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
The only way selling Moore makes sense in the position we’re in is if there is a well thought through plan to spend at least some of the money received to leave us with, hopefully, a stronger squad than we have now - based on what we’ve seen in the past ten years or so, do you think that’s likely to be the case?
Not in the slightest. I doubt we'll see any of the money, particularly as Wigan will grab a fair chunk. I'd prefer to keep him at least until the end of the season
Re: if Kieffer moore leaves
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
The only way selling Moore makes sense in the position we’re in is if there is a well thought through plan to spend at least some of the money received to leave us with, hopefully, a stronger squad than we have now - based on what we’ve seen in the past ten years or so, do you think that’s likely to be the case?
That has to be a no from me. Not in the slightest. He's not my kind of a player, and as I've said, I think he's let us down this season, but it's going to make our job of staying in the division an awful lot harder if we sell him. I don't think our board will get a good price for him if they do decide to sell. We're dire on and off the pitch.
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How much do we lose in income being in league one compared to the Championship?
Re: if Kieffer moore leaves
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Citizen's Nephew
That has to be a no from me. Not in the slightest. He's not my kind of a player, and as I've said, I think he's let us down this season, but it's going to make our job of staying in the division an awful lot harder if we sell him. I don't think our board will get a good price for him if they do decide to sell. We're dire on and off the pitch.
To be fair the board have occasionally managed to get very good deals: £8m for Zohore, £3m for Mason, £6m for Mutch
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City123
To be fair the board have occasionally managed to get very good deals: £8m for Zohore, £3m for Mason, £6m for Mutch
You're right, to be fair. I'm just annoyed we're in this position and a bit grumpy at the moment. I can't believe my heart rate during a match between Brum and Posh. I can't take this!
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I wonder if we're talking to Andy Carroll as a potential replacement
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Rjk
I wonder if we're talking to Andy Carroll as a potential replacement
More likely to be talking to Andy Campbell….
Sorry, open goal. Couldn’t resist.
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Rjk
I wonder if we're talking to Andy Carroll as a potential replacement
'Moore' like Lewis Carroll then we'd be in wonderland.
Re: if Kieffer moore leaves
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City123
To be fair the board have occasionally managed to get very good deals: £8m for Zohore, £3m for Mason, £6m for Mutch
They dont really like to talk about the money they get in though from sky, selling, crowds etc….just what goes out
Re: if Kieffer moore leaves
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Originally Posted by
Captain_Sensible
Talk on Wigan message boards that they would be entitled to a 20% sell-on fee.
This means we'd lose money on the transfer (£2.6m spent and £2.4m back in), which is ridiculous considering the season he had last year and his Wales exploits
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Punxsutawney Phil
This means we'd lose money on the transfer (£2.6m spent and £2.4m back in), which is ridiculous considering the season he had last year and his Wales exploits
yeah that is ridiculous
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City has been the graveyard of many strikers in recent years. They simply don't receive decent supply.
Re: if Kieffer moore leaves
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
The only way selling Moore makes sense in the position we’re in is if there is a well thought through plan to spend at least some of the money received to leave us with, hopefully, a stronger squad than we have now - based on what we’ve seen in the past ten years or so, do you think that’s likely to be the case?
Josh Maja is in talks with Championship clubs. I hope the club are one of them. They won't be, though because that is far too sensible for Tan and Dalman.
Re: if Kieffer moore leaves
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Punxsutawney Phil
This means we'd lose money on the transfer (£2.6m spent and £2.4m back in), which is ridiculous considering the season he had last year and his Wales exploits
It'll be 20% on the profit.
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Pedro de la Rosa
It'll be 20% on the profit.
Is it really that simple though? Presumably there are costs (and possibly taxes) when buying and selling players.
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Taunton Blue Genie
Is it really that simple though? Presumably there are costs (and possibly taxes) when buying and selling players.
VAT for one. I'm pretty sure it is standard that it is based on the profit.
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Sell on clauses may not necessarily be standard, so it all depends on what was agreed when we bought Kieffer.
I’d be surprised profit is the value used, because it would be possible to downplay it in order to reduce the amount paid onwards.
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Pedro de la Rosa
Josh Maja is in talks with Championship clubs. I hope the club are one of them. They won't be, though because that is far too sensible for Tan and Dalman.
Morison looks for the players he wants then asks the powers above..:thumbup:
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He doesn’t want to be here, his attitude stinks, people saying we’ll be worse off if he goes. How can we be worse off getting shot of someone who spends match days on his settee? If he stays, he won’t play much, I think he’s trying to break the world record for catching Covid. Should he be allowed in the ground with the relevant vaccination proof anyway? He’s let us down badly.
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splott parker
He doesn’t want to be here, his attitude stinks, people saying we’ll be worse off if he goes. How can we be worse off getting shot of someone who spends match days on his settee? If he stays, he won’t play much, I think he’s trying to break the world record for catching Covid. Should he be allowed in the ground with the relevant vaccination proof anyway? He’s let us down badly.
This is how I've felt this season. If he stays and wears the shirt I hope he can win me over. We didn't get to see him in his 20 goal season. I'd like to see that version, and please can we stop making excuses for him. He's a 29-year-old Cardiff City striker and we're in the sh*t. We need wins, goals and can't afford to keep anyone who doesn't want to be here.
Edit: and FFS the 20 goals were last season. That's gone. None of us can live on past glories. It's this season's tally that's important. If any of us f*ck up at work we don't get to use the excuse 'well, I was bloody brilliant last year!'