How is that not a red card :yikes: ???
So if the player is offside you can take them out ... no repercussions!!!!!
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How is that not a red card :yikes: ???
So if the player is offside you can take them out ... no repercussions!!!!!
All the explanations so far have been baffling. If players can get retroactive bans, why can't they get retroactive red cards at half time?
The analyst on SSN just said he's having a great game. At the same time I was reading the bbc text commentary which said he's Everton's weak link.
Scumbag
He made some great saves, but should have been off early in the game for his challenge on Van DijkQuote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
He made a least two game-saving saves. But is still mistake-prone.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Good shot stopper and distribution. Pretty shit at everything else though, as soon as he has to make a decision its about 50/50 whether he'll make a good or bad one
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton
Havent seen it?
Really? A current day Joe Hart but with a nasty streak. Watch him.. in my opinion the way he slides after he has the ball in his hand or the way in which he pushes a straight leg out in front of him when he’s making a catch will injure someone. I don’t know if VVD will be out for a while or not but Pickford is always a moment away from inflicting a serious injury on someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Unconfirmed reports mentioned during the Man City/Arsenal commentary that VVD has suffered an ACL tear and will be out for 8 months.
Seems Liverpool were net receipters of VAR last year , this year not going so well .
absolutely horrendous tackle
If they do make changes so that goal-keepers follow through can be looked at as a foul then you might as well call it 'the Pickford rule' - he did it, foul with his follow through rather than injure a player with his follow through, in the world cup as well.
I don't think it is a nasty streak though. It's desperation to make the save and bad decision making.
I think it’s a nasty streak. It may not be his intent to injure but if that’s a consequence of his actions then ‘so be it’ in his mind, is my take.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
Just watched the incident and Pickford knew exactly what he was doing.
Agree with above, try for the ball and getting the man is a bonus.
He has a nasty streak in him.
If that happened involving two outfield players then it would have been a straight red plus a lengthy ban.
Generally keepers get a smooth ride these days from referees, you cannot touch them.
I see that changing from now on and expect to see more penalised.
Regarding Liverpool's dominance in the last 18 months to 2 years, it will be severely tested.
They have been lucky not to have any major injuries up til now and teams will take heart from VVD's absence.
I’m sorry but he he does it far too often not for it to be a nasty streak.
Confirmed Van Dijk has blown an ACL. Months and months out.
Pickford will be available for Everton's next game with no repercussions.
I hope his conscience is ****ed though as his 'tackle' was out of order
Living in the same city may be a bit tricky as I can’t imagine Liverpool fans being happy tonight !Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
yep I hope no brainless Liverpool fans decide to seek retributionQuote:
Originally Posted by billy.ronson
How has Souness got a job on Sky??
If the following is the case then Michael Oliver should be suspended.
Confusion over potential punishment
Initially there was confusion over how the Pickford challenge had been assessed.
There was a theory no action could be taken because of the offside decision. However, while that would have prevented a penalty being awarded, it would not have stopped Pickford being shown a red card.
Evidently, neither Oliver nor the VAR saw fit to impose such a punishment.
VAR can only intervene for offences they deem to be worthy of a red card. If, for instance, they felt Pickford had made a genuine attempt to play the ball - and Oliver had not seen the incident at all - it would only have been a yellow card.
However, they could also have asked Oliver to view the incident again on the pitch-side monitor.
Fast forward to the disallowed goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
Am I correct that neither the linesman, referee or indeed the Everton players thought it was offside?
If so, then VAR (Mr Coote) should not have used inconclusive video evidence to judge that there was an offside.
VAR is there to alter a match official's judgement if there has been a clear and obvious error.
Back to the Pickford incident ... perhaps Mr Coote could see no clear intent to injure an opponent, just a goalkeeper attempting to block a potential goal threat by making himself as large as possible. The fact that he collided with Van Dyke and caused injury could have been seen as accidental. Viewing replays it appears that Pickford immediately apologies when he realises he has collided with Van Dyke.
Liverpool FC, fans and the media saying that Van Dyke could be out for the rest of the season cannot use the fact that Pickford stayed on the pitch as a reason for them not to challenge for the title again.
Yep I agree its not a nasty streak , yes its a clumsy badly timed challenge ,however its brave as the defender in question is a big unit .Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
Week in and out defenders like Virgil execute the same brave and rash challenge which carry the same risks , when two players collide Injury is in the lap of the gods . I wonder how many forwards have been injured by Virgil's challenges and tackles ?
I'm sure Pickford has been on the receiving end many times as it is a physical contact sport .
Hey I'm guessing if its was any other defender the news story would not be so newsworthy .an I guess if it was say a Smithies tackle on a Fulham striker, that stopped them scoring in the last minute of a game allowing us to get promoted we'd be cheering from the rafters .
I loved them one on one tackles when I was playing .
Wow. I think you meant to make this post on here: https://www.redcafe.net/Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Good to see Jordan Pickford 'Taking the Knee' as Black Lives Matter.
I suspect he was more likely telling him to get up and that if he’d really tried he’d have snapped his legQuote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
I don't think we'll know what the linesman thought as they're told not to flag until the passage of play is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
I can't believe Pickford is getting away with this because the ref and VAR didn't miss the incident. WTF?
He made reckless and illegal challenge, a player is out for the season because of it, but it's OK because the ref and VAR looked at it and incorrectly decided it wasn't a foul because a player was offside? So next time a player is offside, punch him in the face.
Thats real knee takingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
https://www.theguardian.com/football...-on-merseyside
starring role in this week's David squires cartoon
Love his work. Sometimes I find myself daydreaming wishing I was him (Squires, not Pickford!).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Forget Covid.
Surely an injustice to Liverpool should be looked at. Im expecting Parliamentary questions.
Protest march from Anfield to number 10.
Give them the 2 points ban Pickford and Richarlison and give Liverpool special permission to sign a replacement. The PL can give them the funds.
Richarlison will have a 3 match ban anyway... But the rest sounds fair :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Only saw that VAR decision this morning, absolutely ****ing ridiculous. Along with Covid, it'll be the death of football for me. No interest anymore whatsoever, the entertainment value and passion is being sucked out of the game. Absolute disgrace