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the other bob wilson
Not sure if John Lennon’s heart was really in it by the time it got Let it Be.
I've seen about 1/2 an hour of it and, just by seeing how close Yoko was sat to them rehearsing, you could see how much of an influence she was over John Lennon.
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I think John Lennon seems quite into it. Especially once they get to Apple. Going out to Twickenham every day seems like a pain in the arse. What's crazy to me is that they have such little time to write and record and they spend so much time just having a laugh and jamming old rock and roll songs.
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Whisperer
So they’ve made a series and stretched it to 8 hours, can’t see it throwing up anything we don’t know.
Surely you didn’t expect some new info about them?:shrug:
I’m just happy to see how they function and work together to be honest
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The Bloop
I've seen about 1/2 an hour of it and, just by seeing how close Yoko was sat to them rehearsing, you could see how much of an influence she was over John Lennon.
She’s like the girl who’d always be over Pontcanna or The Racecourse all on her own on the touchline watching her boyfriend play. Then be sat with him in the pub/club straight after the game like a spare prick at a wedding. John should have told her he was at work and she should piss off, how were the others so tolerant?
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Whisperer
So they’ve made a series and stretched it to 8 hours, can’t see it throwing up anything we don’t know.
They made a 6 hour fly on the wall documentary from 60 hours of footage. There is most definitely and undeniably things you didn't know and things you've never seen before in this film.
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NYCBlue
They made a 6 hour fly on the wall documentary from 60 hours of footage. There is most definitely and undeniably things you didn't know and things you've never seen before in this film.
I suppose I’m not interested, it was a long time ago, it’s in the past and gone for good.
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Whisperer
I suppose I’m not interested, it was a long time ago, it’s in the past and gone for good.
Yeah let’s ditch all history, 1927 pah!!!!
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Macartney- he and his three mates were responsible for changing the world- it’s as simple as that.
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Ivortheengine
Macartney- he and his three mates were responsible for changing the world- it’s as simple as that.
based on what ivor ?
i beg to differ if we are talking music
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splott parker
Yeah let’s ditch all history, 1927 pah!!!!
Grow up Parker ffs
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MOZZER2
based on what ivor ?
i beg to differ if we are talking music
They showed that four ordinary blokes could write and perform their own songs and succeed. They created some of the best songs and albums ever recorded. They influenced and continue to influence countless bands. And we're still talking about them more than 50 years after it was all over.
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Whisperer
Grow up Parker ffs
You debunked history in a sweeping statement and I need to grow up???? I love history and think saying ‘it was a long time ago, it’s in the past and gone for good’ is a ridiculous thing to say.
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splott parker
You debunked history in a sweeping statement and I need to grow up???? I love history and think saying ‘it was a long time ago, it’s in the past and gone for good’ is a ridiculous thing to say.
The Beatles split up in 1970 in my book that’s a long time ago and they won’t be playing at the castle anytime soon….their gone for good. Unless you know something we don’t.
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NYCBlue
They showed that four ordinary blokes could write and perform their own songs and succeed. They created some of the best songs and albums ever recorded. They influenced and continue to influence countless bands. And we're still talking about them more than 50 years after it was all over.
I doubt we will ever see such talent anytime soon
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NYCBlue
They showed that four ordinary blokes could write and perform their own songs and succeed. They created some of the best songs and albums ever recorded. They influenced and continue to influence countless bands. And we're still talking about them more than 50 years after it was all over.
not doubting there talent and the works they produced some great tunes but the thread i responded to mentioned changing the world .The Beatles were a product of the previous generation and if you look at there influences the likes of cliff richard , buddy holly , elvis , bob dylan , chuck berry , beach boys , everly brothers to name a few were the real game changers in music . All forms of popular music came from gospel , blues , jazz and country music in the 1950's
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goats
I doubt we will ever see such talent anytime soon
In the film John is 28, Paul is 26, George is 25 and Ringo is 28. Crazy.
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MOZZER2
not doubting there talent and the works they produced some great tunes but the thread i responded to mentioned changing the world .The Beatles were a product of the previous generation and if you look at there influences the likes of cliff richard , buddy holly , elvis , bob dylan , chuck berry , beach boys , everly brothers to name a few were the real game changers in music . All forms of popular music came from gospel , blues , jazz and country music in the 1950's
But they took all that (probably not that easy in those days - you couldn't just look up every band you heard of on youtube) and turned it into something else. Something that had a profound effect and influenced probably more bands than all the names you mentioned combined. I love the Beach Boys, but to put them ahead of the Beatles in terms of being influential is ridiculous. Cliff Richard was just a Elvis/Eddie Cochran imitator and his most influential "rock and roll" song (Move It) was written by someone else. Elvis never wrote a song in his life by the way. Lennon and McCartney started writing songs in their teens.
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NYCBlue
But they took all that (probably not that easy in those days - you couldn't just look up every band you heard of on youtube) and turned it into something else. Something that had a profound effect and influenced probably more bands than all the names you mentioned combined. I love the Beach Boys, but to put them ahead of the Beatles in terms of being influential is ridiculous. Cliff Richard was just a Elvis/Eddie Cochran imitator and his most influential "rock and roll" song (Move It) was written by someone else. Elvis never wrote a song in his life by the way. Lennon and McCartney started writing songs in their teens.
think your getting all confused NYC the influences i mentioned were from the Beatles members not me
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MOZZER2
think your getting all confused NYC the influences i mentioned were from the Beatles members not me
I understand the Beatles were influenced by other artists. But they didn't just copy them. The Beatles are greater than the sum of all those parts. They changed music and therefore changed the world.
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MOZZER2
not doubting there talent and the works they produced some great tunes but the thread i responded to mentioned changing the world .The Beatles were a product of the previous generation and if you look at there influences the likes of cliff richard , buddy holly , elvis , bob dylan , chuck berry , beach boys , everly brothers to name a few were the real game changers in music . All forms of popular music came from gospel , blues , jazz and country music in the 1950's
I suspect you’re not old enough to have lived through all of the years when the Beatles were active and selling records (I.e. 1962 to 1970). I’m a bit too young for my memories of their early years to be entirely reliable, but,I think it’s generally accepted that the sixties were a seminal decade - put simplistically, it was when the world went from black and white to colour in ways beyond just cinema and television.
My impression is that the first three years of the sixties were just an extension of the fifties, musically, the shot in the arm provided by rock and roll in the mid fifties had died out as it had gone mainstream with “safer” versions of some of the artists you mention dominant. That all changed in 1963 when I can recall She Loves You (one of my least favourite Beatles songs) getting to number one and it seemed like everyone, and I mean everyone, was singing it.
That was when the sixties started as far as Im concerned. The Beatles didn’t create the sense of rebellion that was a characteristic of that decade, the conditions were in place already for what that decade became, but, for me, they were the focal point of it in that they kicked open a door through which others could follow.
There are those who say the Beatles were “safe” in the way that Hollywood Elvis became safe, they were like Pat Boone, Paul Anka etc, and, certainly, Brian Epstein tried to steer them in that sort of direction while he was still alive, but he couldn’t. In my experience, it is very rare for the biggest, most famous bands and performers of an era to be able to sell huge amounts of records and be good - the ones that sell the most singles tend to be unadventurous and predictable musically, but the Beatles were the biggest band out there for a while and they were also very good and musically adventurous.
There was a time when eight hours worth of television showing the Beatles working in the studio in their latter days would have been lapped up by me, but I’m in no hurry to watch it now, so I suppose I agree with the Whisperer to some extent, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t fully understand why people are still driven to produce such work more than half of a century later - the Beatles were a phenomenon and our lives would have been different if they had not existed, their influence in so many facets of life is greater than any other musical act of my lifetime.